# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/921 "2025-07-29T16:25:46Z")
And it’s not just in Gaza. Another Palestinian killed in the WB by a violent settler, who likely will face no consequences: > **[Awdah was shot dead in the West Bank. No Israeli settler will be held...](https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-07-29/ty-article-opinion/.premium/awdah-was-shot-dead-in-the-west-bank-no-israeli-settler-will-be-held-accountable/00000198-561a-dc50-a9bf-ff7bfb850000)** > > \*\*\* ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/922 "2025-07-29T16:28:35Z")
I’m still loathe to compare Jews to Nazis, but I think a better comparison for the current Israeli government is the US in the mid-to-late 1800s: waging genocidal or near-genocidal wars against the natives, virtually no consequences for Americans who kill Native Americans, while countless are held in slavery (or Jim Crow apartheid after the CW) in the South. Jacksonian? Colonial? Supremacist? All 3, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/923 "2025-07-29T16:45:22Z")
Now even _Donald Trump_ is admitting that starvation exists in Gaza and is lecturing Bibi to do something about it. Have Israel’s actions become so morally abhorrent that not even Trump can tolerate them?? (Of course not, he just wants to be able to build more golf courses in Saudi Arabia and Qatar) ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/924 "2025-07-30T00:57:37Z")
…from the official Israel Twitter account: (contains upsetting images) > **Using drop-down to cover possibly upsetting images after formatting snafu - ParallelLines** > > [https://x.com/Israel/status/1950259113948070197](https://x.com/Israel/status/1950259113948070197) > A real man. A fake claim. 41-year-old Mohammad al-Hasanat didn’t die of starvation — he suffered from **untreated diabetes and died from complications of severe hypercatabolism.** But his image is now being used to smear Israel. This isn’t compassion. It’s manipulation. Don’t let Hamas weaponize suffering to spread hate. Truth matters. Bolding mine. It’s hard to tell if this is either ignorance or deliberate trolling. I suspect the latter. Because he had untreated diabetes because Israel have _destroyed the healthcare system in Gaza_. And Israel is preventing medical aid from getting through. Here is a graph sourced from the WSJ. > Look at “other aid.” Almost nothing has been let through since Israel broke the ceasefire agreement. Including medical aid. From the PCHR: > claimed the lives of 472 out of 1200 kidney failure patients, (around 41% of the total kidney patients). Moreover, 78 dialysis machines have been destroyed, depriving patients of lifesaving treatment. > > … > > The report also clarifies that 6 out of 7 specialized dialysis centers had been massively destroyed or forced out of service, including four centers in Gaza City and North Gaza while the remaining two in southern and central Gaza Strip. The report also points out that 62 dialysis machines remain operational but at decreased capacity after 78 machines had been destroyed, reducing the services provided to patients to the half amid severe shortages of medicine and medical consumables. > **[Kidney Failure Patients Without Healthcare \[EN/AR\] - occupied Palestinian...](https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/kidney-failure-patients-without-healthcare-enar)** > > Analysis in Arabic on occupied Palestinian territory about Health and Protection and Human Rights; published on 20 May 2025 by PCHR There is something morally depraved about this sort of cruel propaganda. And the sad thing is, for many people around the world, they will fall for it. **ParallelLines Moderator Note** : I’ve tried to fix the formatting issues on @Banquet_Bear’s behalf, hopefully this more-or-less satisfies his intent, any errors of such are likely mine, for which I’ll take the blame or you can join the Site Feedback discussion to _politely_ express your concerns about the recent change. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/925 "2025-07-30T01:00:06Z")
…apologies: the quote and spoiler tags didn’t work for some reason, I’ve flagged for moderation. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/926 "2025-07-30T09:24:42Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Bolding mine. > > It’s hard to tell if this is either ignorance or deliberate trolling. Well, given that hypercatabolism is also a result of starvation, I vote trolling. The reporting I’ve read says things [like](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/diabetic-palestinian-dies-of-hunger-as-famine-tightens-grip-on-besieged-gaza/3638236)“Medical staff at Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in Deir al-Balah city said Ahmed Mohammed Al-Hasanat, 43, died from complications of untreated diabetes and prolonged undernourishment.” so it’s not as if his diabetes was hidden. Just more Israeli bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/927 "2025-07-30T11:59:30Z")
What is the actual argument that there’s _not_ currently any significant starvation in Gaza? Best I can tell is it’s something like “not enough dead yet”, or “the parents don’t look as skinny as the kids”. It shouldn’t need to be said, but the time to worry about starvation is _before people start dying from starvation._ ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/928 "2025-07-30T13:37:48Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m still loathe to compare Jews to Nazis, but I think a better comparison for the current Israeli government is the US in the mid-to-late 1800s: waging genocidal or near-genocidal wars against the natives, virtually no consequences for Americans who kill Native Americans, while countless are held in slavery (or Jim Crow apartheid after the CW) in the South. Jacksonian? Colonial? Supremacist? All 3, maybe? The most familiar antecedent IMO is the [German Empire in SW Africa](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Nama_genocide). Expulsion not containment, but still the choice to either starve or be shot. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/929 "2025-07-30T14:16:00Z")
Perhaps there is some hope for Israel after all. From the Guardian: > A group of high-profile Israeli public figures, including academics, artists and public intellectuals, has called for “crippling sanctions” to be imposed by the international community on Israel, amid mounting horror over its [starvation of Gaza](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/famine-gaza-israel-war-starvation-hunger). > > The 31 signatories of [a letter to the Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/the-starvation-of-gaza-is-shameful-crippling-sanctions-on-israel-are-needed) include an Academy award recipient, Yuval Abraham; a former Israeli attorney general, Michael Ben-Yair; Avraham Burg, a former speaker of Israel’s parliament and former head of the Jewish Agency; and a number of recipients of the prestigious Israel prize, Israel’s highest cultural honour. > > The figures come from the worlds of poetry, science, journalism and academia, and the letter accuses [Israel](https://www.theguardian.com/world/israel) of “starving the people of Gaza to death and contemplating the forced removal of millions of Palestinians from the strip”. > > It adds: “The international community must impose crippling sanctions on Israel until it ends this brutal campaign and implements a permanent ceasefire.” ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/930 "2025-07-30T14:19:42Z")
They’re probably all antisemitic members of Hamas. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/931 "2025-07-30T17:36:49Z")
Onion is on point (back in '23): > **[‘New York Times’ Issues Apology For Reporting Palestinian Deaths](https://theonion.com/new-york-times-issues-apology-for-reporting-palestini-1850915694/)** > > NEW YORK—Claiming that the humanizing of occupied peoples is not what the newspaper stands for, The New York Times issued an apology Tuesday for reporting on Palestinian deaths. “Our thoughtful and accurate coverage of the Palestinian death toll in... ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/932 "2025-07-30T20:31:05Z")
Just got an email from Bernie Sanders saying he’s going to force the Senate to vote today on cutting off military aid to Israel. Three months ago the same bill got only 14 votes in favor. Let’s see how it goes this time. I predict it will fail, but get a lot more than 14 votes. ---
**Author:** ![ByuBilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@ByuBilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ByuBilly)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/933 "2025-08-05T19:55:55Z")
I’m with you here Puzzlegal , (fun fact I also read your name as puzz legal until said thread where everyone discussed it and still can’t read “puzzle gal” out of it without considerable effort). I was staunchly in favour of pretty much any actions Israel took until this “war”. I’ve been utterly gobsmacked by the hypocrisy. Big ww2 buff so I think you can imagine why. Banquet and you and Andy (sorry I know theres iiii’s and we’re not supposed to screw up peoples names) have really opened my eyes (and broomstick?) It’s been really shocking to me. I actually grew up closely watching the PLO and arafat nonsense (basically grew up on that) and didn’t have much sympathy for the palestinian people. It’s pretty much a uno reverse. I can’t even imagine what its like for someone of jewish descent IN Israel to deal/talk about being opposed to it (the pressure from fellow citizens to stfu and soldier on etc). Let alone the ones physically trying to help the palestinians especially anyone in aid or red cross etc. Can’t even imagine… I would probably cry every day and im one of those gruff type men…I lost my doctor to him going back “Home” to palestine to help just after and im terrified I’ll never see him again. He was such a good doctor and generous man. I really hope he’s still around. Still kinda zionist as long as it means that the jewish people deserve a safe home. So we might be ok there? But again ty to so many for posting the info you have. I’ve found it very educational. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/934 "2026-01-03T13:10:42Z")
Now Venezuela. Dumbest motherfuckers on the planet. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/935 "2026-01-03T13:20:09Z")
What scares me is he said “We have nukes, why can’t we use them?” He must be removed. TODAY. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/936 "2026-01-03T23:34:57Z")
Resident warmonger Babale thinks we should just wait and see - maybe this war over nothing that killed civilians over zero threat to our security is going to turn out just fine: > [@I Pit Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-babale/1016738/686): > > Jesus fucking Christ. It’s the same fucking Boss Baby meme again. “This is just like the Iraq War”, said the guy who has only ever seen the Iraq war. We even have the idiotic oil memes again. I notice that you didn’t answer any of my questions. You do agree that Maduro is a piece of shit and an illegitimate election usurping dictator who deserves to be deposed whether or not it’s a good idea to do so, right? You do agree that if this ends in elections in Venezuela that would be a good thing,… It’s very, very hard to believe he actually believes this shit. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/937 "2026-01-03T23:44:07Z")
Maduro’s brutal dictatorship is hardly “over nothing”. Hey, remember when you were convinced the Iran bombing was going to end up just like Iraq, and I made fun of you with that “guy who has only ever seen Boss Baby” meme, and then the Iran bombing didn’t turn out like Iraq at all? I guess you still look at the world through Iraq tinted glasses, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/938 "2026-01-03T23:44:59Z")
I don’t recall Trump kidnapping the Ayatollah and announcing that the US was going to “run” Iran. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/939 "2026-01-03T23:45:35Z")
Gosh, why would there be idiotic oil memes about the country with the largest proven oil reserves in the world that we’ve, you know, been stealing tankers full of oil from, extrajudicially murdering their citizens on the high seas and that we’re now apparently running their country after abducting their leader? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/940 "2026-01-03T23:48:01Z")
Cite? I said it was dumb and harmful and probably accomplished nothing, and everything I’ve seen since supports that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=48)