# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/941 "2026-01-04T00:31:22Z")

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Don’t forget that Trump literally said that we’re going to war to get their oil.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/942 "2026-01-04T01:25:57Z")

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“Our oil”.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/943 "2026-01-04T01:55:46Z")

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Trump wants it, therefore it’s rightfully his. Classic conqueror reasoning.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/944 "2026-01-04T02:19:51Z")

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I wish I could think this was just Trump. I fear those that have his ear want to refight the Banana Wars and claim all of the American countries as the US’s. Hence the newly minted ~~Monroe~~ Donroe Doctrine.  
Maybe we can end the Korean conflict as a finale and conquer Vietnam as an encore.  
I fear this is the Right claiming a ‘do-over’ for every thing they think was taken from them over, at least, the last century.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/945 "2026-01-04T05:23:37Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Hence the newly minted ~~Monroe~~ Donroe Doctrine.

No no no, it’s the Donroe _Document_.

It comes with 25% more frontotemporal dementia.

> <https://x.com/evanhill/status/2007506923130892487>

“All of these actions were in gross violation of the core principles of American foreign policy dating back more than two centuries. And, not anymore, all the way back dated to the Monroe Doctrine and the Monroe Doctrine is a big deal, but we’ve superseded by a lot by a real lot. They now call it the Donroe document. I don’t know, it’s, Monroe Doctrine. We sort of forgot about it. It was very important, but we forgot about it. We don’t forget about it anymore.”

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/946 "2026-01-04T07:05:13Z")

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So… who’s running Venezuela?

Trump just flat out said he wanted American companies to steak the oil industry there - but there’s no troops there, no occupation. So Maduro’s cabinet’s still in charge anyway?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/947 "2026-01-04T07:46:00Z")

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The Supreme Court has declared Maduro’s VP to be acting president.

> **[Venezuela’s top court orders VP Delcy Rodríguez to temporarily take charge](https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/amp/latin-america/venezuelas-supreme-court-orders-vp-delcy-rodriguez-to-temporarily-assume-presidency.phtml)**
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> Venezuela’s Supreme Court orders Vice-President Delcy Rodríguez to immediately assume and exercise all presidential powers in an acting capacity.

> **[Venezuela's VP condemns 'kidnapping' and says country will never be a US colony](https://www.9news.com.au/world/venezuela-executive-vice-president-demands-nicolas-maduro-release-refuses-to-become-us-colony/19bee6d6-a90e-480f-93d7-530ad1173b42)**
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> V﻿enezuela's executive vice president Delcy Rodriguez – the potential successor of captured president Nicol...

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/948 "2026-01-04T11:59:37Z")

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At least 40 dead in Venezuela. Dead people whose families are mourning.

Fuck the warmongers. Fuck their enablers.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/949 "2026-01-04T12:46:55Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I fear this is the Right claiming a ‘do-over’ for every thing they think was taken from them over, at least, the last century.

All the way back to 1865. I truly wish I were joking. They are still upset they no longer can own certain people.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/950 "2026-01-04T13:47:18Z")

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I think a critical difference between the warmongers and those opposed is the value of “other” human lives. Sure, they’ll say they believe all lives are equally valuable, and they may even deceive themselves… but the dead of other cultures (and/or religions/ethnicities/races etc.) just don’t _feel_ the same to them. American or Israeli lives, for example, are necessarily sacred and precious, and when they die the warmonger really can feel it and feel terrible about it… but Gazan lives? Venezuelan lives? Just statistics. Sure, it’s bad when they die, but they can’t really imagine that the suffering those deaths cause (both to the dead and surviving families/communities) the same way they can personally feel the deaths of their preferred groups. They just don’t matter as much. They’ll swear over and over again that they do, but when they can brush off dozens of dead over some incredibly vague justification like “Maduro was bad!”, it shows they don’t truly matter that much to them. They can’t imagine the grief from the families of the dead, and the trauma to the surviving wounded, and such. Maduro is bad, and therefore the deaths are an okay trade.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/951 "2026-01-04T13:52:33Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> American or Israeli lives, for example, are necessarily sacred and precious, and when they die the warmonger really can feel it and feel terrible about it… but Gazan lives? Venezuelan lives? Just statistics.

_You_ are the one who’s happy to condemn Gazans and Venezuelans to life under a brutal dictatorship so long as you don’t have to witness their suffering on the evening news because of a war, you whiny piece of shit. It’s clear that _you_ are the one tho whom their lives mean absolutely nothing except for when you can use their deaths as a political slogan. That’s why you don’t give a flying fuck about any of the much more destructive ongoing wars and genocides, such as Sudan; those deaths aren’t politically expedient for you, so you completely ignore them. And then you pretend to moralize as if you actually care. It’s honestly pathetic.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/952 "2026-01-04T13:54:49Z")

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Right. Gazan lives are going so well right now. So are Venezuelan lives. Thank God for Netanyahu and Trump! Thank God all those Gazans and Venezuelans died so the rest of their lives could be so much better as they are now!

When did you realize you were a neo-con? I never thought I’d meet someone who so openly emulated Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. The justifications and rationalizations are identical.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/953 "2026-01-04T14:06:10Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I truly wish I were joking.

I know you’re not. We all should have seen how the Right, literally, white washes antebellum slavery into something that was good for African Americans and I’ve been watching Christians defend Biblical slavery for nearly a decade.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/954 "2026-01-04T14:11:51Z")

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When did you realize that you were completely incapable of original thought and were doomed to repeat tired cliches?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/955 "2026-01-04T14:13:04Z")

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…says the guy repeating Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz just about word-for-word.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/956 "2026-01-04T14:40:04Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> but they can’t really imagine that the suffering those deaths cause

I maintain that the one and maybe only difference between liberals and MAGA conservatives is empathy. They don’t have it, and don’t understand it. I would go so far as to say you cannot be a MAGA if you have empathy, it is impossible.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/957 "2026-01-04T14:48:04Z")

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> <https://x.com/tompawnbadil/status/1882115502061068777?lang=en>

This Tweet is from Ben Garrett, a pastor at Refuge Church (Reformed Baptist) in Ogden, Utah because Jesus was woke.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/958 "2026-01-04T21:28:53Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Sure, it’s bad when they die, but they can’t really imagine that the suffering those deaths cause (both to the dead and surviving families/communities) the same way they can personally feel the deaths of their preferred groups. They just don’t matter as much. They’ll swear over and over again that they do, but when they can brush off dozens of dead over some incredibly vague justification like “Maduro was bad!”, it shows they don’t truly matter that much to them

Them claiming they think it’s bad when “those people” die is only a whitewash for mainstream political consumption.

When they _aren’t_ talking for the benefit of holding up that public image, they’ll happily talk about how great it would be to kill billions of people. Kill all Muslims, kill everyone who isn’t white, kill everyone who is/isn’t a Jew (depending on their side), kill Europe, kill China, nuke the Middle East, nuke Africa, kill the “liberals” (by which they mean most people), kill the gays, kill the transgendered, kill the Protestants/Catholics…there’s a _sea_ of bloodlust just under the public facade.

Murder is and always has been a core value of the right, for longer than the US has existed. They think it’s _good_ to murder…as long as it’s the correct people being murdered.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/959 "2026-01-04T21:36:06Z")

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What do the Trumpulas and Trumpensteins have to say about their Supreme Court picking their VP as the new President?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2026, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/960 "2026-01-04T21:41:19Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> They think it’s _good_ to murder…as long as it’s the correct people being murdered.

They’re almost saying that quiet part out loud,

[![](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2laC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34ef6ce9-2326-45ca-abda-ad3eace8fca9_1310x1878.png) ](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2laC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34ef6ce9-2326-45ca-abda-ad3eace8fca9_1310x1878.png)

But folks like us are the only ones hearing what they actually are saying.

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