# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1041 "2026-02-28T20:29:02Z")

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So who are you trusting? Hegseth’s handpicked generals/admirals? Some vague notion of the US military at large, given the order to attack without anything approaching a clearly defined mission or long term plan?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1042 "2026-02-28T20:32:44Z")

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Let me try to break this down in a way that even someone as monumentally stupid as you should be able to understand, @iiandyiiii.

You don’t want the US to go to war with Iran. Neither did Khamenei. Does this mean that you _trust_ him?

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> So who are you trusting? Hegseth’s handpicked generals/admirals?

The person leading this operation appears to be Vice Admiral Brad Cooper, and as I expected he appears to be a career admiral with little if any controversy surrounding him. I’m sure you can educate me on why he is the Spawn of Satan?

Note, that’s not Admiral Frank Bradley who did the boat strikes. Cooper served under Biden as well.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1043 "2026-02-28T20:36:05Z")

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How do you know what Khamenei wanted? For all we know the Iranian government is going to come off stronger when it’s done. Trump may declare victory and abandon everything. Who the hell knows what’s going to happen? Certainly not Trump and Hegseth, and certainly not you. And that’s the problem – wars of choice like this are inherently unpredictable. When idiots are in charge, as they are, it’s even more so.

No, I don’t trust a handpicked Hegseth flag officer. Certainly not without a clearly defined mission and long term plan, neither of which appear to exist for this war.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1044 "2026-02-28T20:36:37Z")

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Pick a side. This fence sitting is just bullshit.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1045 "2026-02-28T20:37:36Z")

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I’m on the anti-warmonger side. There’s no fence sitting. Trump and Hegseth are malevolent idiots. That Khamenei and the Iranian government are at least as bad doesn’t make it good or okay to start a war with them, with no clear mission and no long term plan.

And fuck you again, liar. Making claims about me without a single cite. Motherfuck you.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1046 "2026-02-28T20:38:53Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> And fuck you again, liar. Making claims about me without a single cite. Motherfuck you.

You in this whole thread is my cite.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1047 "2026-02-28T20:39:07Z")

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That should make it easy, then. Find a single post, liar.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1048 "2026-02-28T20:39:35Z")

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Again…the whole thread.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1049 "2026-02-28T20:39:46Z")

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Right. No post, no cite, because you got nothing. Fuck you, liar.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1050 "2026-02-28T20:42:50Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> How do you know what Khamenei wanted?

Lol! Lmao, even!

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> For all we know the Iranian government is going to come off stronger when it’s done.

Ok bud.

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> Trump may declare victory and abandon everything.

True, he’s an idiot. I would much rather have pretty much any other commander in chief leading this war.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> No, I don’t trust a handpicked Hegseth flag officer.

Other than “But Hegseth”, what has he actually done to make you think he’s not competent? Why did Biden put him in charge of a smaller part of the region if he possesses the negative qualities that you presumably assume all “handpicked Hegseth flag officers” have?

How do you even know he’s a “handpicked Hegseth flag officer”? You think the decision to pick him in particular was based on Hegseth’s unique(ly shitty) judgement, as opposed to asking the other Biden era officers who are still part of the command structure today who to promote?

“But Hegseth!”

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Pick a side. This fence sitting is just bullshit.

I think the side he picked is incredibly clear.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1051 "2026-02-28T20:44:22Z")

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Here’s one of the “warmongering pieces of shit” that Andy hates so much - Zelensky:

> **['Freedom to the Iranian people' — Kyiv voices support for US-led strikes on Iran](https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-voices-support-for-us-led-strikes-against-iran/)**
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> "The reason for the current events is precisely the violence and arbitrariness of the Iranian regime, in particular the murders and repressions against peaceful protesters, which have become particularly large-scale in recent months," the Foreign...

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1052 "2026-02-28T20:44:26Z")

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Your trust in Trump and Hegseth couldn’t be more clear. They’re in charge. Face it. Their decisions. They decide if and when to attack. They decide how to attack. They decide what to do next. And they decide to do it all with no clear mission and no long term plan.

But it’s all okay, because coward fucks like you are comfy at home.

Maybe I need to rephrase it. I’ve served. I volunteered. I’m not there now, but thousands of Americans are. And now they could die because of decisions of Trump and Hegseth. And you’re okay with this? Okay with putting them at this risk of death? Without a clear mission, without a clear plan? Do you think Trump and Hegseth care about them? Have they thought this through? Should presidents even have this power without consulting Congress? Does the Constitution mean so little to you?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1053 "2026-02-28T20:44:49Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> I think the side he picked is incredibly clear.

I do too but he pretends he hasn’t.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1054 "2026-02-28T20:48:35Z")

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Let me guess, you’ve never served in the military either, right? Another chickenhawk coward?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1055 "2026-02-28T20:48:46Z")

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It would be nice if the Iranian regime went away.

This attack is a bad idea.

These are not contradictory statements.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1056 "2026-02-28T20:50:38Z")

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I have not. I went to a military academy in high school (Culver). My dad and uncles all served.

Not sure why this is remotely relevant.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1057 "2026-02-28T20:51:19Z")

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Just want to see what kind of hawk you are. The cowardly chickenhawk kind. Fuck you, liar. Fuck you, coward.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1058 "2026-02-28T20:52:10Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I do too but he pretends he hasn’t

It’s for the same reason that he keeps ignoring the question about why he thinks Israel should be OK with a “peace deal” that leaves Iran with the ability to mass manufacture ballistic missiles until it poses an existential threat - or why Israel should pretend there’s a “peace deal” in place while Iran is actively attacking Israel through proxies - if he admits that he doesn’t give a shit about existential threats to Israel, then it’s obvious that no one who does should care about anything he says.

Likewise, if he admits that he thinks America Bad and in the wrong in any conflict with any regime, no matter how horrendous they are or what actions they are engaged him - then it would be very obvious that no one should take any of his opinions seriously.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Not sure why this is remotely relevant.

Because now he will go back to stroking himself while calling people who disagree with him cowards. It’s one of his two moves, along with incredulously demanding “YOU TRUST TRUMP?!?!??!”

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1059 "2026-02-28T20:52:30Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Just want to see what kind of hawk you are. The cowardly chickenhawk kind. Fuck you, liar. Fuck you, coward.

Ah…you are of the Starship Troopers government kind of mindset. Makes more sense now.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2026, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1060 "2026-02-28T20:53:34Z")

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I’m the “war should be the absolute last resort” kind. Not “war is okay even with fucking idiots in charge as long as the other side is bad”. That’s some of the dumbest shit in human history.

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