# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1201 "2026-03-12T21:38:57Z")

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I’m already seen a meme about it being Epic Furry, with anthropic animals.

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1202 "2026-03-12T21:40:28Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I’m already seen a meme about it being Epic Furry, with anthropic animals..

With baboons?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2026, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1203 "2026-03-12T21:49:05Z")

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> [@Ellecram](#):
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> With baboons?

Googling, there’s various versions. Wolves and foxes most commonly, although at least [one](https://www.google.com/imgres?q=Epic%20Furry&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstackcdn.com%2Fimage%2Ffetch%2F%24s_!KLYb!%2Cf_auto%2Cq_auto%3Agood%2Cfl_progressive%3Asteep%2Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%252Fpublic%252Fimages%252F03627589-d58c-46c0-8928-deaf7b6992d4_822x481.jpeg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpremium.boingboing.net%2Fp%2Fgop-congressman-john-rutherford-praises&docid=1bNJBlUCXkiW_M&tbnid=-dmLEBX9VcMz9M&vet=12ahUKEwjFzbrcqpuTAxWuMjQIHQoYJNIQnPAOegQIYRAB..i&w=822&h=481&hcb=2&itg=1&ved=2ahUKEwjFzbrcqpuTAxWuMjQIHQoYJNIQnPAOegQIYRAB) used the female Caitian (cat-person) from the old animated star Trek.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1204 "2026-03-13T08:43:15Z")

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Still trust these idiots who started this war of choice with no mission and no plan, @Babale?

> Top Trump officials acknowledged to lawmakers during recent classified briefings that they did not plan for the possibility of Iran closing the strait in response to strikes, according to three sources familiar with the closed-door session.

> **[Trump administration underestimated Iran war’s impact on Strait of Hormuz |...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/12/politics/hormuz-trump-administration-underestimated-iran)**
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> The Pentagon and National Security Council significantly underestimated Iran’s willingness to close the Strait of Hormuz in response to US military strikes while planning the ongoing operation, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.

How could you be this fucking stupid? Are you ashamed of yourself yet?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2026, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1205 "2026-03-13T12:38:51Z")

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Not to worry, the excursion’s almost over and we’ve won.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1206 "2026-03-15T13:31:53Z")

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How do you feel about the war now, @babale? Still think it was wise to start a war with no mission, no plan, and idiots in charge, who weren’t even ready for the possibility of shipping in the Strait of Hormuz being threatened?

The rats are already fleeing the sinking ship:

> **[Brendan Nyhan (@brendannyhan.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/brendannyhan.bsky.social/post/3mh3ywex2522f)**
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> First Vance, now Caine. Who hasn't leaked their misgivings and warnings at this point?
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**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1207 "2026-03-15T16:26:32Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> The other is that our RW media and politicians have become quite tribal, and criticize the government 100% of the time no matter what. Had Starmer decided to join in the bombing, they absolutely would be criticizing him for that\*.

Very true. Starmer could cure cancer and they’d complain he was putting oncologists out of work.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1208 "2026-03-15T17:05:29Z")

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Best not be critical of DJT’s Holy War, [else kiss those licenses goodbye.](https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/14/media/fcc-brendan-carr-trump-iran-war-abc-nbc-cbs)

> “Broadcasters that are running hoaxes and news distortions — also known as the fake news — have a chance now to correct course before their license renewals come up,” Carr wrote.
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> “The law is clear. Broadcasters must operate in the public interest, and they will lose their licenses if they do not.”

I don’t know if they can revoke licenses, but if any FCC would try, it’s this one.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1209 "2026-03-15T18:41:50Z")

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Yup. Nineteen Eighty Four can’t work if the media doesn’t play ball.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1210 "2026-03-15T21:50:52Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> If Iran offered a peace agreement with Israel, along with full diplomatic relations, Israel would accept in a heartbeat. There’s nothing more we want from Iran.

I accept that the vast majority of Israeli citizens would do this, yes. I do not think the Israeli government as currently structured would though.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1211 "2026-03-15T22:05:09Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I do not think the Israeli government as currently structured would though.

While my country has way too many violent idiots in charge, I can’t believe they’re _that_ stupid. Not if they hope of ever getting re-elected.

Besides, what more could Iran give us besides peace? We can’t rule their country, we can’t take any of their land, we can’t take their oil or other resources. We’re good at blowing things up, but exerting our will on a land a thousand miles away is far beyond our capabilities even if we wanted to. We’re not the U.S.; we’re just a small country with problems closer to home. Peace and recognition are the greatest victory any Israeli government could dream of claiming.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1212 "2026-03-15T22:11:04Z")

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This Iranian government appears to be no more capable/willing of offering long-term peace than this US government is capable/willing of respecting the due process rights of migrants and minorities (or, for that matter, than this Israeli government is capable/willing of respecting the rights of Palestinians in the WB and protecting them from settler thugs).

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1213 "2026-03-15T22:20:52Z")

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An Iranian government with a “peace with Israel/America” platform would just be making it that much harder for them to stay in power. _Especially_ if they took over from the present regime; they might as well cut their own throat. Short of the US or Israel nuking them into unconditional surrender I don’t see it as happening.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1214 "2026-03-15T22:45:20Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> While my country has way too many violent idiots in charge, I can’t believe they’re _that_ stupid.

Oh, I don’t think they’re stupid. I think they are venal, corrupt, amoral, and would make every attempt to spin a rejection of a peace deal as “the best thing for the country” using whatever lies and propaganda they could muster.

What Iran gives these politicians is… Power. As long as there is no peace.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1215 "2026-03-15T23:01:07Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> What Iran gives these politicians is… Power. As long as there is no peace.

And the same goes with the Iranian leadership; they _need_ enemies like Trump, Netanyahu and so on. Evey bomb that falls on Iran or Israel increases support for their respective governments. Trump and company are most likely hoping to get in on the action as well, and that Iran will pull off a suitably spectacular terrorist attack on the US.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2026, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1216 "2026-03-15T23:27:53Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> And the same goes with the Iranian leadership;

Yes. It’s the tragedy of history, repeated over and over again.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1217 "2026-03-19T05:14:28Z")

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Still feeling good about this war, @babale? What’s the plan? Just keep blowing shit up until the mullahs cry uncle? Fuck civilians, fuck the world economy, fuck energy prices…? Sure seems to me that Iran is winning. And all of this was entirely predictable.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1218 "2026-03-19T13:47:15Z")

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Still feeling right about this war, Wes? Was it a wise move to start a war with idiots in charge, no mission, and no plan?

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1219 "2026-03-19T16:32:24Z")

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Considering the IRGC is being dismantled, and the public are starting to target regime remnants, yes. I wish someone other than Trump was in charge though.

Whiny assholes who support Islamic fascism because it is ‘anti-western’ will never persuade me.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2026, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1220 "2026-03-19T16:59:30Z")

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Opposition to bombing a country and fucking up the world’s energy supply with no clear plan or end game.

Does not equal “Supporting Islamic fascism.”

Go fuck yourself.

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