# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1261 "2026-03-24T09:29:28Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > > > Add on everything else, and it’s crystal clear that actual genocide should be a much, much higher concern than worrying about overstating accusations of genocide. > > Here’s the hump I struggle with. We can’t hold Israel to a higher standard than that to which we hold ourselves. I can’t think of anything Israel have done in Gaza that we didn’t do a thousand times harder to the Germans and Japanese in WWII. So, were the Greatest Generation guilty of genocide? If not, why not? Gaza didn’t attack Israel. Hamas did. Germany and Japan are states. Hamas is not. Germany (and Japan) were an existential threat to their enemies. Hamas is not. Germany and Japan were engaged in total war. Hamas was not and couldn’t have, since it’s not a state. And much more. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1262 "2026-03-24T10:33:23Z")
Forgot one of the most important differences of all - the Israeli government has been deliberately aiding and propping up Hamas for years, and kneecapping alternative groups in Gaza, because they thought Hamas was the best partner against a two state solution. So this Hamas was partially of the Israelis’ own making. There’s zero justification for flattening Gaza and killing tens of thousands of civilians. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1263 "2026-03-24T14:10:23Z")
I just want to take a step back and endorse this pitting. The destruction alone upsets me – seeing all that people have worked hard to build and achieve destroyed. Let alone the unimaginable pain and suffering being experienced by tens of thousands of innocent civilians; the children buried in rubble, the grieving families, and the hopelessness and fear of those still alive. I’ll never understand how sick sadistic fucks like Wesley and Babale can just ignore it all, and just go consult their Book o’ Bad Talking Points for which handwave to use this time. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1264 "2026-03-24T14:26:41Z")
Thank you. War is just a terrible, horrible thing. Thousands of lives destroyed - maybe tens or hundreds even. Shattering trauma for so many of the survivors. It should only happen as an absolute last resort, when the alternatives to war are even worse. That bar was not remotely met for this war. Calling for wars of choice like this should be considered as morally disgusting as calling for sexually abusing children. The worst of the worst things humans can do. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1265 "2026-03-24T14:31:52Z")
Well, if it makes you feel better, we’re apparently doing it at the behest of noted Nobel candidate, Mohammed bin Salman (gift link): [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.VlA.hc8Q.Fglpl7t9qDdr&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.hc8Q.Fglpl7t9qDdr&smid=url-share) The important thing, though is that the grifters in the administration are able to make insider profits off of this: > **[Treason in the Futures Markets](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/treason-in-the-futures-markets)** > > People close to Trump are trading based on national secrets ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1266 "2026-03-24T15:20:06Z")
Paul Krugman really brought the receipts with this. It’s clear and obvious that someone traded oil futures 15 minutes before the Trump announcement that sent oil prices plunging. They keep records of trades, correct? I mean, they must be able to quickly and easily see which account(s) made these trades. This should be child’s play to identify the account(s), name them and prosecute. It’s like someone walked into a bank and held it up with their name and address on their shirt and handed the teller their ID along with the holdup note. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1267 "2026-03-24T15:20:49Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I’ll never understand how sick sadistic fucks like Wesley and Babale can just ignore it all, and just go consult their Book o’ Bad Talking Points for which handwave to use this time. They’re evil people. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1268 "2026-03-24T15:22:21Z")
Krugman brings up another important point: Was this insider trading based on knowledge of an upcoming Trump announcement? Or was it a Trump announcement designed to facilitate insider trading? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1269 "2026-03-24T16:43:45Z")
As Krugman jokes, Kash Patel will get right on that investigation no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1270 "2026-03-24T17:38:21Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > This should be child’s play to identify the account(s), name them and prosecute. Snipping mine. You actually think that this is going to happen? Ha…hahaha … BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! # BWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh man…I swear to God…that was great. Wow…I couldn’t breathe there for a minute. Thanks for that. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1271 "2026-03-24T17:42:11Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Thanks for that. 😂 You’re most welcome. I too had a belly laugh at the concept. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1272 "2026-03-24T18:14:55Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I’ll never understand how sick sadistic fucks like Wesley and Babale can just ignore it all, and just go consult their Book o’ Bad Talking Points for which handwave to use this time. Your own comment answers the question; “sadistic”. Wars are only bad if you _oppose_ death and suffering and destruction. They’re great if that’s what you _want_ to happen. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1273 "2026-03-24T22:26:36Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Paul Krugman really brought the receipts with this. Yes, and it’s being picked up in bigger places, such as Fortune. > **[Nobel laureate calls it 'treason': $580 million traded minutes before Trump's...](https://fortune.com/2026/03/24/paul-krugman-treason-oil-futures-trading-trump-white-house/)** > > Approximately $580 million of oil futures were sold before Trump shocked the markets with a dubious statement. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2026, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1274 "2026-03-24T22:57:27Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Yes, and it’s being picked up in bigger places, such as Fortune.. Sadly, this is also true: > SEC Enforcement Division Director Margaret Ryan resigned last Monday after just over six months on the job, Reuters was the first to report. Her resignation email, seen by Reuters, did not say why she was leaving. Ryan declined to comment when reached by phone and text. > > Two of the people said Ryan wanted to be more aggressive in pursuing charges for fraud and other misconduct **including in cases that touched the president’s circle,** but faced resistance from [SEC chair Paul Atkins](https://www.cnbc.com/video/2026/03/18/watch-cnbcs-full-interview-with-sec-chairman-paul-atkins.html) and other top Republican political appointees. My bold. Nothing is going to happen to the insider trading robbers. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1275 "2026-03-25T03:51:09Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > I can’t think of anything Israel have done in Gaza that we didn’t do a thousand times harder to the Germans and Japanese in WWII. Which is, as I’ve mentioned to you before when you’ve made this same objection, one of the main reasons that post-WWII we now have much more stringent international rules, such as the Geneva Conventions, for protection of civilians in armed conflict. (Rules that both Israel and the US are at present shitting all over, as have some other forces in other recent conflicts, of course.) I don’t know why you seem to think it’s some kind of “gotcha” to point out that humanitarian standards for the conduct of war are somewhat stricter in the 21st century than they were in 1945. It’s precisely **because** international bodies back then agreed that the prevailing standards were too barbarically inhumane that we now have the more restrictive standards. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1276 "2026-03-25T13:31:01Z")
The FBI has been instructed to de-emphasize its focus on investigating financial crimes, important work that the Bureau was actually pretty good at. It’s the Golden Age of fraud and grift now. Which is something that fills me with dread. If they’re not afraid of being criminally prosecuted, is there a plan for never relinquishing power? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1277 "2026-03-25T14:01:07Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > If they’re not afraid of being criminally prosecuted, is there a plan for never relinquishing power? I think you probably meant to post this in another thread, but to answer this, no, they are not planning on relinquishing power. They couldn’t be more clear on this front. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1278 "2026-03-26T13:57:25Z")
More evidence that you can’t criticize Israel without being called a bigot and/or supporter of terrorism. > **[U.K. police arrest 2 men in arson attack on ambulances belonging to a Jewish...](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/uk-police-arrest-2-men-arson-attack-ambulances-belonging-jewish-charit-rcna265058)** > > Police haven’t declared the incident to be a terrorist attack, but they are investigating a claim of responsibility by a group with potential links to Iran. And this poor doctor, persecuted for simply expressing opinions. > **[UK Doctor Blames ‘Jewish Lobby’ After Suspended by Medical Regulators for...](https://www.algemeiner.com/2025/11/28/uk-doctor-blames-jewish-lobby-suspended-medical-regulators-pro-hamas-antisemitic-posts/)** > > Dr. Rahmeh Aladwan addresses the Activist Independent Movement’s Nakba77, Birmingham Demonstration for Palestine, outside the local BBC offices and studios … Shocking, it is. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1279 "2026-03-26T14:08:34Z")
What’s your point? That some critics of Israel are indeed bigots? How is this relevant and who denies this? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1280 "2026-03-26T14:10:13Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Are you saying that anyone who believes this Israeli government is overseeing a genocide in Gaza is ignorant, “screeching”, or sympathetic to white nationalists? You never did answer this, @Jackmannii. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=63) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=65)