# Fuck all you warmongering pieces of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 22, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962 "2025-06-22T01:26:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1321 "2026-04-08T05:43:55Z")
I expect you’re right. He is a coward, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1322 "2026-04-08T05:56:04Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > I’d call his absence a tacit admission that he has no argument. Of course I have an argument, and in fact I made my argument plenty of times - in the threads that are for discussing the war. This thread isn’t for discussing the war. It’s for Andy to build up a sense of rightful superiority sufficient to reach climax. That’s why it’s so sticky here. It’s best to just leave him to it; I’m happy to discuss my views on the war elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1323 "2026-04-08T05:59:11Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > It’s best to just leave him to it; I’m happy to discuss my views on the war elsewhere. The places where people aren’t allowed to actually point out just how genocidal your opinions are, in other words. You can’t handle arguing with people anyplace where the forum isn’t heavily weighted in your favor. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1324 "2026-04-08T06:44:32Z")
@Babale, it’s clear your biggest fear here is that I’m right. What’s happening inside your own head right now? It’s fascinating to me, though I’m sure you’re unwilling to share it. You, for some strange reason, trusted that Trump and Hegseth’s leadership in this war would result in a good outcome. It’s crystal clear this was delusional, though you still appear totally unwilling to face this. What will happen when reality finally finds its way into your skull? Will you be able to handle it? We’ll see. I’m still hopeful that part of you still lives in the real world. I’m rooting for you! ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1325 "2026-04-08T11:55:15Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > @Babale, it’s clear your biggest fear here is that I’m right I think his biggest fear is that a Palestinian child is allowed to grow up. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1326 "2026-04-08T12:32:25Z")
In fairness to @Babale (and I can’t believe I am saying that), at least part of the venting here I think is because we’re all seeing people calling for war or making excuses for Israel on TV, and Babale and Wesley just happen to be the local representatives of that genocidal cult. It still continues to shock me. Here in the UK, yes there are media figures excusing and appeasing everything Israel does, but there are at least as many voices calling it out. Whenever I watch American news, it doesn’t matter if it’s left or right, it’s all IDF all day. An Israeli soldier gets a papercut, we’re supposed to be in mourning, but yet another day of dozens of civilian deaths as Israel expands its territory? Well it’s fake news / it must have been self-inflicted / terrorists must have been hiding there. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1327 "2026-04-08T12:35:57Z")
I’m not sure about Wes, but Babs didn’t used to be this amazingly stupid. A few years ago he would have laughed at the suggestion that, in the future, he’d be favoring that Trump and Hegseth start a war with Iran with no mission, no strategy, and no plan, and more than that, that he’d actually believe it was likely to go well with those clowns in charge. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1328 "2026-04-08T13:18:14Z")
Leave it to this dumb fucking country: The stock market goes up because Trump did not drop nukes last night. Yup, that’s where we are. ---
**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1329 "2026-04-08T13:25:29Z")
My sardonic lament is that it is at least 2 more weeks before we find out how many civilians a single hydrogen bomb can vaporize. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1330 "2026-04-08T13:31:03Z")
Mainly, you just don’t want to give the OP any satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1331 "2026-04-08T13:40:16Z")
More than satisfaction, I just want the old Babs back. The one who wasn’t such a fucking idiot, who wasn’t cheering on mass murder lead by idiots and clowns because of some absurd rationalization. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1332 "2026-04-08T13:55:39Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Whenever I watch American news, it doesn’t matter if it’s left or right, it’s all IDF all day. > An Israeli soldier gets a papercut, we’re supposed to be in mourning, but yet another day of dozens of civilian deaths as Israel expands its territory? Muslims are widely hated here. The Israelis are _killing Muslims,_ which is what much of the American public want to see on as wide a scale as possible. And the rest are too afraid of being called terrorists, Muslims, “liberals” or whatever to call the genocide fans out on it. What a large portion of the American population _wants_ is to see all billion+ Muslims killed. Heck, on fiction sites I visit I’ve run across stories that are essentially long, gloating fantasies about the mass murder of the entire Islamic population in as brutal fashion as possible. Mass crucifixions, nuclear weapons, fire bombing, you name it. Generally they get removed when removed, but still; there’s a whole subculture of those people out there. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1333 "2026-04-08T16:19:35Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > My guess is that he’s going to say that a stated intent to commit genocide doesn’t count. Just like he claims that Netanyahu isn’t committing genocide, because he’s never specifically stated the intent, and stating the intent is what makes it count. > **[Tom Nichols (@radiofreetom.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/radiofreetom.bsky.social/post/3mixgwtfwpt2e)** > > I am, and it is, and no, they don't > > \[contains quote post or other embedded content\] As a matter of law: > I’m not a laws of war expert but it’s my impression that just the threat to commit genocide is a war crime. Threatening to destroy a civilization is a war crime, whether or not you carry through. Not that the sort of people who support Trump care. > I am, and it is, and no, they don’t It would make sense that making genocidal threats are a) not genocide and b) are a war crime. (For context, Nichols is a Never Trump conservative who understands that genocide is a war crime, but not all war crimes are genocide.) > [@bobot](#): > > Leave it to this dumb fucking country: The stock market goes up because Trump did not drop nukes last night. Yup, that’s where we are. Foreign markets are up as well. Don’t blame the US for that one. * * * Overall, I’m feeling pretty good today about the way things are going, relatively to 24 hours ago. I say we’re not going to drop nukes for _at least_ another week. Yay! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1334 "2026-04-08T16:43:55Z")
Yes of course markets react favorably worldwide to nukes not being dropped. We’re the dumb fuckin’ country that caused the scare. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1335 "2026-04-08T17:52:29Z")
Mod note rescinded. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1336 "2026-04-08T18:33:27Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Yes of course markets react favorably worldwide to nukes not being dropped. And for Ogsakes, of course that’s how we **want** markets to react in that case! We want to incentivize the “not dropping nukes” option as much as possible. If an American administration is really too fucking dumb to be deterred from starting nuclear war by all the other reasons not to do it, but the prospect of declining stock market values is what gives them pause, well, we’ll take what we can get. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1337 "2026-04-08T18:39:07Z")
Even better than the stock market (and oil futures) reacting to the announcement, is when they react 15 minutes _before_ the announcement when the insider traders make their plays. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1338 "2026-04-08T19:35:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > My guess is that he’s going to say that a stated intent to commit genocide doesn’t count. And he would be wrong, as you know. Listen to 15:00 through 19:00, here: > **[The Brian Lehrer Show | WNYC | New York Public Radio, Podcasts, Live...](https://www.wnyc.org/story/international-law-war-crimes-and-the-war-in-iran/)** > > Brian Lehrer leads the conversation about what matters most now in local and national politics, our own communities and our lives. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1339 "2026-04-08T22:03:37Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Even better than the stock market (and oil futures) reacting to the announcement, is when they react 15 minutes _before_ the announcement when the insider traders make their plays. Expect plenty more of that in the next two weeks. Donald is holding off on using the nukes in order to CASH IN MORE!!!1!!11! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962/1340 "2026-04-08T22:07:40Z")
The stock market rising in response to us not nuking somebody only makes sense if it previously dropped in response to the news that we might, and only if it didn’t recover all of its drop. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=66) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-all-you-warmongering-pieces-of-shit/1019962.md?page=68)