# Fuck Boeing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-boeing/441040>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 11, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-boeing/441040 "2008-03-11T23:45:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-boeing/441040/61 "2008-03-15T23:32:44Z")

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It’s not just the managers at Boeing. Working at NASA, we have a long history of bad interaction with Boeing. They have a tendency to take cooperative work, stamp “proprietary” on it and try to prohibit others from using it. Difficult on an interpersonal level.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-boeing/441040/62 "2008-03-16T00:39:19Z")

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I wasn’t referring to Boeing, but I’ve heard stories. It’s the only company I know of where the engineers have actually unionized.  
Just a nitpicky FTR: The C-17 replaced the C-141 (missionwise, that is - it’s larger), not the C-130. The C-17 production line is nearing its end already, but the C-130 just may go on forever. It’s been in production for 54 years now (!) with the orders still coming in.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-boeing/441040/63 "2008-03-16T02:53:57Z")

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Very true, **Elvis** ; in fact, my dad flew C-141’s for years. But we were talking about design competitions. Do a search on the YC-14 and YC-15, interesting airplanes. I don’t know how much of the YC-15 went into the C-17, or why the Air Force bought C-17’s without a formal competition for the contract.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-boeing/441040/64 "2008-03-16T14:43:03Z")

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[There \*was \* a formal competition](http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/c-17-history.htm), MD beating Boeing and Lockheed. The C-17 is to a great degree a scaled-up YC-15, MD’s entry in the cancelled C-130 replacement program. Seems quaint now, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-boeing/441040/65 "2008-03-16T15:10:45Z")

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We got a new contract starting in two weeks. I will be a Boeing person. As long as there is a hefty pay rise, I care not.

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