# Fuck CIA! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2005, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369 "2005-10-28T20:29:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/101 "2005-11-02T00:31:20Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > Records must show that I was not the first to make public the alleged liason between Mr. Ritter and the Mossad. Are you drunk? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/102 "2005-11-02T01:16:22Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > Records must show that I was not the first to make public the alleged liason between Mr. Ritter and the Mossad. Jack Tripper was sleeping with Israli agents? ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/103 "2005-11-02T01:22:58Z")
[Peter Griffon, when he thought he was Jack from three’s COmpany] Ohmigod, ohmigod, ohmigod, Brian, twins! Hot Israeli Twins! [Peter Griffon] ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/104 "2005-11-02T03:28:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Jack Tripper was sleeping with Israli agents? _Three’s Company_ - I remember that show. Jack Tripper was Agent Three, the spy for the “Company” sent to work “undercover” with two sexy Israeli spies - so he ended up moving in with them! And then to avoid being killed by Colonel Furlov, the KGB agent upstairs, he had to pretend to be a Communist! Wackiness ensued every week! ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2005, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/105 "2005-11-02T11:12:03Z")
> [@fushj00mang](#): > > or the analyst who just happens to read Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Hindi, and Russian \ Shhh, will you shut up about that? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/106 "2005-11-08T17:48:03Z")
This morning bring news of more CIA activities. [CIA Holds Terror Suspects in Secret Prisons](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101644_pf.html) > [@](#): > > It could not be determined whether Bush approved a separate finding for the black-sites program, but the consensus among current and former intelligence and other government officials interviewed for this article is that he did not have to. > > Rather, they believe that the CIA general counsel’s office acted within the parameters of the Sept. 17 finding. The black-site program was approved by a small circle of White House and Justice Department lawyers and officials, according to several former and current U.S. government and intelligence officials. Would you like to know the names? You can’t, it’s against the law! > [@](#): > > In November 2002, an inexperienced CIA case officer allegedly ordered guards to strip naked an uncooperative young detainee, chain him to the concrete floor and leave him there overnight without blankets. He froze to death, according to four U.S. government officials. The CIA officer has not been charged in the death. Would you like to know that officer’s name? You can’t, it’s against the law! So, my dear sneering clowns, what do you stand for in relation to CIA: complete secrecy or complete disclosure? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/107 "2005-11-08T18:32:40Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > So, my dear sneering clowns, what do you stand for in relation to CIA: complete secrecy or complete disclosure? Neither. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/108 "2005-11-08T19:19:39Z")
> [@New Iskander](#): > > So, my dear sneering clowns, what do you stand for in relation to CIA: complete secrecy or complete disclosure? Is your life really so empty that you need to dream up fictional Evvvvile Libruls![sup]tm[/sup] to rail against? Does it register on your neuron that in order to feel smug and superior, and yes, be a snearing clown, you need to invent these ludricous positions which five seconds of thought would show to be intellectually bankrupt? Can we pound it through your neutron density skull that your idiotic world of black-white dichotomies and reified ‘enemies’ is just about as false to facts and idiotic as beliefs get? You do realize that most people would answer your question by saying “Somewhere between total secrety and total transparency?” Moron. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/109 "2005-11-08T19:25:38Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Moron. I thought your answer in the other thread was better. This one has reasonableness in it, ruining the crunchy goodness. I only wonder how often **New Iskander** reads the news, if he is only noticing this today. Do you suppose he read it three days ago, and it took that long for the information to make the long and hazardous trek from his eyeballs to his brain? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/110 "2005-11-08T19:28:12Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > I thought your answer in the other thread was better. This one has reasonableness in it, ruining the crunchy goodness. This is true. I am ashamed and dishonored. Well… not that ashamed. And perhaps not all that dishonored. But definitely guilty of stylistic rigidity. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369/111 "2005-11-08T19:50:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Would you like to know that officer’s name? You can’t, it’s against the law! Who do you think enforces the law in this country? Batman? We have a legal system. It’s run by judges and prosecutors and defense lawyers and police officers and jurors and a bunch of other people. And some of these people know what that CIA officer’s name is. So why do you need to know? If you knew his name what would you be doing any differently right now? Flying to Afghanistan with a gavel and forming your own court of justice? > [@](#): > > So, my dear sneering clowns, what do you stand for in relation to CIA: complete secrecy or complete disclosure? Most of us DSCs favor a rational system of reasonable oversight, but hey, you have fun storming the castle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-cia/328369.md?page=5)