# Fuck David Letterman and all misogynistic leftists who support him on this

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287 "2009-06-10T01:51:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/181 "2009-06-11T17:01:16Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Palin has already responded, saying she doesn’t want to give Letterman the ratings boost and she feels it wise to keep 14-year-old Willow away from the guy.
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> Link: [http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/palin-vs-letterman.html](http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/palin-vs-letterman.html)

Translation: she’s terrified she’ll say something stupid. The same reason she never does any media at all outside the talk radio/Fox News green zone,where nobody will ask her how to spell “cat.”

And seriously, she’s “glad she kept Willow away from the guy?” She thinks David Letterman is going to rape her daughter. What a vicious little moron she is.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/182 "2009-06-11T17:02:30Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> See? Even her _mom_ knows she’s a little whore.

Win.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/183 "2009-06-11T17:08:05Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Wow this thread is about a whole lot of nothing.

It’s about psuedo outrage from the right about nearly meaningless bullshit. It’s like a case study of it.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/184 "2009-06-11T17:23:51Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Palin has already responded, saying she doesn’t want to give Letterman the ratings boost and she feels it wise to keep 14-year-old Willow away from the guy.
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> Link: [http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/palin-vs-letterman.html](http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/palin-vs-letterman.html)

In other words, she knows she would be the loser in that encounter because she cannot defend what she said. Letterman wins by default.

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**Author:** ![RedSwinglineOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@RedSwinglineOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedSwinglineOne)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/185 "2009-06-11T18:50:33Z")

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I think the joke makes a good psychological test. If you think the joke was directed toward Sarah Palin and her inability to keep her (nonspecific) kids from getting knocked up, you are normal.

If you assume the joke is about raping a 14-year old, you are the sick puppy.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/186 "2009-06-11T19:43:23Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> The libs freaked when Rush Limbaugh told a joke about Chelsea Clinton in the '90s. Oh, it was the end of the world back then. Now, of course, it’s not a big deal.
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> What a shock to learn that liberals are total hypocrites.

There were lots of jokes at Chelsea’s expense. She was not real pretty when she was young. They called her a dog and were quite insulting. I did not think much of the people who thought that was funny. They were mostly right wingers.  
Palin is captured by a contradiction. She professes a strong religious faith and claims her ways raise better kids. But her kid had sex and got knocked up. That is far more interesting to play with. It contradicts her on many levels.  
But Letterman is a comic. Humor sometimes misses. I doubt he wrote the material anyway. it is not the same as just being mean .

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/187 "2009-06-11T20:02:17Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Well, at first I thought it was just that Bristol didn’t attend the game. Now I find out that Bristol wasn’t even in New York at all! So all those “jokes” about Palin’s daughter in NYC could only have been referring to the 14-year-old. And, yes, I understand that Letterman likely didn’t know this and honestly thought he was referring to Bristol. But in that case, why not simply name the daughter the “joke” was aimed at?

Here’s a clue for you and **FriarTed** :  
You don’t fact check jokes.

And your average audience member doesn’t go rushing to Google to check up on who was at the game also.

And it was a bad joke, easy to write and not very funny. You could have done almost the same one 10 years ago substituting Clinton for A-Rod and White House for baseball game. Fill-in-the-blank jokes show the writing team ran out of creativity that night.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/188 "2009-06-11T20:09:39Z")

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> [@Aquila\_Be](#):
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> I don’t see how you can claim it fell flat. Here’s a 42 second [YouTube Clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-M26WD1VSg&feature=player_embedded) of his “joke”. Judging by the noise made by all of his fellow political bigots in the audience, they found the “joke” extremely hilarious. There was no evidence that his “joke” came close to falling _flat_ in that brief clip.

OK, it didn’t make ME snort coffee from my nose.

Meh. Different sense of humor I guess. Still, a joke is a joke. Funny or not (depending on the listener), it’s still nothing more than that.  
Added on edit:

Who gives a fuck anyway

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/189 "2009-06-11T20:10:46Z")

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Can you use the behavior of kids to judge people, though? I mean, Al Gore takes a pretty tough moral stand on behalf of the environment and Tipper Gore was famously involved in the effort to regulate the content of popular music.

This didn’t keep their son from dabbling in various drugs and endangering the public with his car on several occasions. Indeed, from a public safety standpoint we’re in more danger from the Gore children than the Palin kids, collectively speaking.

And I don’t mean to say in this that Al and Tipper Gore were bad parents at all - certain incidents or even whole kids going bad aren’t necessarily indications of your parenting skills.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/190 "2009-06-11T20:19:35Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Wow this thread is about a whole lot of nothing.

It more or less goes like…

_Bunch of Guys: But Bristol wasn’t at the game, so it’s not about her!  
Bunch of Other Guys: Who gives a shit where Bristol was? It’s about her because she’s the one the got knocked up.  
BoG: But Bristol wasn’t at the game, so it’s not about her!  
BoOG: Letterman probably assumed it was her when he heard Palin was there with her kid.  
BoG: But Bristol wasn’t at the game, so it’s not about her!  
BoOG: The exact location of Bristol Palin is irrelevant. It was intended to be a joke about the abstinence-only lady having a knocked up kid. Factual accuracy not required.  
BoG: But Bristol wasn’t at the game, so it’s not about her!  
BoOG: (Sigh)_

The whole thread really should have gone more like this…

_Everyone: It’s funny because Sarah Palin’s kid is a whore…_

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/191 "2009-06-11T20:23:56Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Palin is captured by a contradiction. She professes a strong religious faith and claims her ways raise better kids. But her kid had sex and got knocked up. That is far more interesting to play with. It contradicts her on many levels.

What is the saying.. “Do as I preach, not as I practice” or “Do as I say, not as I do.”  
She is a preachy little whiner isn’t she. Reminds me of Lindsay Lohan’s mother.

And what about the decades of Michael Jackson sleeps with underage boys jokes?  
Where was Palin to defend all those boys from horrible jokes.  
We must keep our sons away from people like Leno, Letterman, Conan, and their like.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/192 "2009-06-11T20:29:43Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Palin has already responded, saying she doesn’t want to give Letterman the ratings boost and she feels it wise to keep 14-year-old Willow away from the guy.
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> Link: [http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/palin-vs-letterman.html](http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/palin-vs-letterman.html)

A shining example of Christian charity and forgiveness, to be sure! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/193 "2009-06-11T21:17:34Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Can you use the behavior of kids to judge people, though? I mean, Al Gore takes a pretty tough moral stand on behalf of the environment and Tipper Gore was famously involved in the effort to regulate the content of popular music.
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> This didn’t keep their son from dabbling in various drugs and endangering the public with his car on several occasions. Indeed, from a public safety standpoint we’re in more danger from the Gore children than the Palin kids, collectively speaking.

I think timing is everything. Al Gore’s son is fair game, but the problem is that Tipper’s censorship crusade, Al’s emergence as eco-crusader, and Al Jr.'s\* arrest are all separated by 22 years, so connecting them for humor purposes is a bit more of a stretch.

Also, when Al Jr. was arrested, he was 24, well into full-formed adulthood. His decisions as an adult are less a reflection of his parents guidance (and supervision) than those of an underage Bristol still in the protective nest, so to speak. The hypocrisy in her mother’s case is more about things transpiring right under her nose without her knowledge.\*\*

\*yes, Al Jr. is actually the III because the former VP is Jr., I know  
\*\*though I’m sure Sarah did know about her daughter’s activities, which makes the “Do as I say, not as I do” preachiness even more conspicuous

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/194 "2009-06-11T21:20:25Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Can you use the behavior of kids to judge people, though?

You can when they’re trying to tell you how to raise your own kids.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/195 "2009-06-11T21:20:45Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Can you use the behavior of kids to judge people, though? I mean, Al Gore takes a pretty tough moral stand on behalf of the environment and Tipper Gore was famously involved in the effort to regulate the content of popular music.
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> This didn’t keep their son from dabbling in various drugs and endangering the public with his car on several occasions.

See, if young Gore’d been dumping oil into fresh water, or shouting obscenities on CD’s, that woulda been funny.

I know, it’s not fair. I can’t make a liberal counterpart for every ironic conservative hypocrisy. On the other hand, you guys get all the money. Deal.

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/196 "2009-06-11T21:28:51Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Palin has already responded, saying she doesn’t want to give Letterman the ratings boost and she feels it wise to keep 14-year-old Willow away from the guy.
> 
> Link: [http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/palin-vs-letterman.html](http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/palin-vs-letterman.html)

Fair enough. If someone made a lame crack like that about my daughter, I’d be disinclined to come on his show, too. And the quote from their spokesperson, “Plus, it would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman,” sounds to me like a joke, and not a bad one.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/197 "2009-06-11T21:30:42Z")

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So we’re pretty much agreed that Steph96 is a moron, right?

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**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/198 "2009-06-11T21:32:17Z")

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> [@The\_Weird\_One](#):
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> “Plus, it would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman,” sounds to me like a joke, and not a bad one.

She needs better writers. It would have been much funnier if it had been Woody Allen or Roman Polanski instead of Letterman.

What?

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/199 "2009-06-11T21:33:37Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> So we’re pretty much agreed that Steph96 is a moron, right?

I for one totally disagree. Oh, and it’s Steph **e** 96, genius. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/200 "2009-06-11T21:39:22Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> I for one totally disagree. Oh, and it’s Steph **e** 96, genius. 🙂

Fuck, I was hoping for a unanimous vote.

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