# Fuck David Letterman and all misogynistic leftists who support him on this **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287 "2009-06-10T01:51:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/261 "2009-06-12T17:49:11Z")
This isn’t the first time Palin has feigned offense at a fictional attack on her children to whore for media attention an sympathy. This is like the only trick she has. She adores playing the outraged mother. It allows her to simultaneously attack and immunize herself from any scrutiny or cross examination. The outrage is opportunistic, self-serving and fake. She really is a despicable person. Worse than Cheney, even. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/262 "2009-06-12T17:51:21Z")
> [@The\_Weird\_One](#): > > _stands and applauds_ Some of the language in this thread is far more disgusting and misogynist than Letterman’s bad joke. Glad _somebody_ actually read that. > [@SaharaTea](#): > > [Cite.](http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/17/bristol.palin.interview/) That’ll do, pig. (Thanks.) ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/263 "2009-06-12T17:53:23Z")
Oh, please. Dick Cheney is a jackass with power. Sarah Palin is a whiny toad with designs on britches much bigger than the waders she wears. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/264 "2009-06-12T17:55:19Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > So do you think all of the ladies or gentlemen of the Dope who had sex as teenagers are similarly tramps? The girls are all harlots and Jezebels; you know who you are! But boys will be boys… ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/265 "2009-06-12T18:02:42Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > When Sarah Palin’s daughter stays off the cover of People magazine with her Abstinence Only baby, then I’d say she’d cease being a target. Supporting Abstinence Only does not make her a whore and little slut, although many of the more rabid posters here seem to think it does. It’s ironic that Barck Obama, whom they back so fervidly, would be the first to disown these gutter attacks on family and would despise the cretins who resort to them. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/266 "2009-06-12T18:11:05Z")
I think that those kinds of reprobations should be applied not to sexual activity _per se_, but to sexual _irresponsibility_. To me, a “whore” is not someone who has sex, but a person (male or female) who shows no responsibility in terms of birth control or disease protection. People who habitually reproduce outside the confines of some sort of stable relationship or financial situation _should_ be shamed. The guys who have five kids with four different babymamas and never send any of them a dime, or the woman with four kids by three different daddies who STILL doesn’t use birth control – those people do deserve some kind of a word akin to “whore” that carries the same sort of social stigma, but without any gender connotations or reprovals of sex in itself. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/267 "2009-06-12T18:12:11Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Supporting Abstinence Only does not make her a whore and little slut, although many of the more rabid posters here seem to think it does. It makes her a hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/268 "2009-06-12T18:12:34Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Supporting Abstinence Only does not make her a whore and little slut, although many of the more rabid posters here seem to think it does. No. And I never said that. It does, however, make her hopelessly naive. It also makes her a target for ridicule as long she poses on the front of People magazine, and gives interviews about how well Abstinence Only education works … most of the time … except for when it was her. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/269 "2009-06-12T18:29:10Z")
A really good breakdown of [Palin’s non-sensical position](http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2009/06/12/my-continued-defense-of-david-letterman.aspx), not only as a politician but also as an allegedly “concerned” mother: > [@](#): > > Letterman has said that he wasn’t joking about Palin’s 14-year-old daughter, Willow, but her 18-year-old daughter, Bristol; and, frankly, I believe him. Why? Because the jokes make no sense if they’re not about Bristol. First, Bristol is far and away the most famous of the Palin children; late night comics generally don’t tell jokes about people who are obscure, for the simple reason that their audience won’t get the jokes. Second, Bristol is famous for her sex life, having had an out-of-wedlock child and now, more recently, becoming a spokesperson for teen abstinence–which is why, for better or worse, any joke about her is likely to be one laced with sexual innuendo. > > Yes, it’s true (as Hanson emphasizes) that it was Willow, not Bristol, who attended the Yankees game with her mom. But my guess is Letterman was simply confused about which daughter was in attendance. More importantly, I can’t imagine many people watching Letterman even knew which Palin daughter was at the Yankee game (it wasn’t exactly national news), and, therefore, when they heard the joke, they just assumed the unnamed Palin daughter whom Letterman was joking about was Bristol–since Bristol is the Palin daughter who’s not only famous but is famous for the very thing Letterman was joking about. > > Indeed, if it weren’t for Palin and Hanson and other conservatives making such a big stink about this, no one would be talking about the"statutory rape of . . . Willow"–as Palin herself did on the “Today Show” this morning. I once wondered how Palin, as a mother, could have accepted McCain’s offer to be his running mate when she knew that, by doing so, she would subject her pregnant teenage daughter to national attention (and, with that attention, criticism and ridicule). But I’m even more baffled by her behavior here. Even if she does think Letterman was making inappropriate jokes about her 14-year-old daughter, how does it help her 14-year-old daughter to continue to fan the flames this controversy and just call more attention to the jokes? If I was a 14-year-old girl, I sure as hell wouldn’t want my mother going on national TV to keep on talking about my hypothetical statutory rape. Contrast Palin’s behavior, for instance, with that of Bill Clinton’s after Rush Limbaugh and John McCain made nasty jokes about the attractiveness (or lack thereof) of his teenage daughter Chelsea. Clinton was reportedly furious about the jokes, as any father would be, but he didn’t make a public spectacle of his anger or try to score political points from the episode. In fact, so far as I can tell, he (and the White House) refused to make any public comment on Limbaugh and McCain’s jokes–presumably because doing so would make things even worse for Chelsea. Bill Clinton’s name isn’t exactly synonymous with family values, but, on this one, I think Palin could definitely stand to follow his example. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/270 "2009-06-12T18:31:05Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Supporting Abstinence Only does not make her a whore and little slut… No, just more likely to get “knocked up,” as alluded to in the original teapot. The reason that the joke was made in the first place is because certain people dedicate so much time to the promotion of the dogmatic belief that instruction on the benefit and proper use of various prophylactics _does_ make whores and little sluts. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/271 "2009-06-12T18:33:44Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Supporting Abstinence Only does not make her a whore and little slut, although many of the more rabid posters here seem to think it does. > > It’s ironic that Barck Obama, whom they back so fervidly, would be the first to disown these gutter attacks on family and would despise the cretins who resort to them. Attacks on family? The guy made an admittedly tasteless joke about the Church Lady’s less-than-abstinent daughter. The Church Lady is deliberately twisting it to make Letterman look like a kiddie diddler. She’s too hell-bent on creating a bigger political issue (at the expense of her daughter…_again_) to see that she’s cutting her own throat. HE’S A COMEDIAN. He makes his living this way, and flirts with the line less often than 90% of the people out there. Palin could have (and _should have_) let it go. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/272 "2009-06-12T18:44:22Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > This isn’t the first time Palin has feigned offense at a fictional attack on her children to whore for media attention an sympathy. This is like the only trick she has. She adores playing the outraged mother. It allows her to simultaneously attack and immunize herself from any scrutiny or cross examination. The outrage is opportunistic, self-serving and fake. She really is a despicable person. Worse than Cheney, even. Where does that cynically self-serving behavior rate next to going to a church for 20 years for political reasons alone only to sever ties with it when it is politically convenient? What makes one despicable and the other a winning strategy worthy of admiration? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/273 "2009-06-12T18:56:59Z")
Whoa, you just broke my non-sequitur meter. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/274 "2009-06-12T19:08:44Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Where does that cynically self-serving behavior rate next to going to a church for 20 years for political reasons alone only to sever ties with it when it is politically convenient? What makes one despicable and the other a winning strategy worthy of admiration? Name one person who was harmed by Obama severing those ties. Name one innocent bystander whose name was dragged through the mud as much as Willow’s has been (almost exclusively by her parents) in the Jeremiah Wright imbroglio. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/275 "2009-06-12T19:12:51Z")
Obama didn’t attack anybody or exploit his own children. Anyway, his church going wasn’t so much self-aggrandizing or attention seeking (as Palin’s behaviour is), but prophylactic. It was done to protect against attacks, not to foment them. I also don’t think that his religious faith in itself is compltetely phony. From what I’ve read of his views on religion, my impression is that he has a genuine belief in God (or in some kind of transcendent truth), but isn’t dogmatic on the specifics. His writings show an ecumenical, “all roads lead to Rome” kind of an outlook. In other words, I think he believes in some sort of God, but doesn’t necessarily buy into Christianity as the One True Faith. From what he’s written (and I’m talking about writings long before he was a Presidential candidate), the primary things that attracted him to the church were the community, and the church’s committments to social and community services. By the way, all those allegedly hateful sermons that Obama sat through for all those years are available on videotape and have been gone through microscopically by the media and by Obama’s political enemies. So far, no one’s found a single thing that Wright said while Obama was in the pews that was even mildly objectionable. The popular contention that Obama Listened to Wright’s ravings," and the like are belied by the fact that every sermon Obama sat through is preserved and accesible to the public, yet no one seems to have been able to find anything Obama listened to that he should have been upset about. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/276 "2009-06-12T19:16:27Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Look, guys, I hate Palin as much as anyone, but can we stop calling Bristol a whore/slut/tramp, etc.? Actually, in this thread they have been calling Willow a whore. So, to briefly recap, calling a thirteen year old a dog is horrible. Calling a fourteen year old a whore is acceptable. Depending on party affiliation, of course. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/277 "2009-06-12T19:24:42Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Actually, in this thread they have been calling Willow a whore. :rolleyes: Cite to one single person who has said this. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/278 "2009-06-12T19:28:06Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Actually, in this thread they have been calling Willow a whore. Cite? ETA: Beaten to the punch. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/279 "2009-06-12T19:34:47Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Cite? > > ETA: Beaten to the punch. I was just going to ask for a cite as well. A cursory look through the thread showed no such statement as far as I can tell. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/280 "2009-06-12T19:44:51Z")
Hey, I think I found one! > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > See? Even her _mom_ knows she’s a little whore. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287.md?page=15)