# Fuck David Letterman and all misogynistic leftists who support him on this

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287 "2009-06-10T01:51:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/461 "2009-06-13T21:46:22Z")

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Its like that _Monty Python_ bit about the sprinting Queen Victorias, but they’re all Mohammed.

“…at the turn, its Mohammed, followed by half-a-beard’s length by Mohammed, with Mohammed, Mohammed, and Mohammed trailing…now going into the stretch, its Mohammed…”

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**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/462 "2009-06-13T21:50:26Z")

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> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> I know it’s beyond trivial, but three more pages without mention that this was provided in [post 323](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11239235&postcount=323)?

oRLY? All I saw was “This post is hidden”. 😃

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**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/463 "2009-06-14T01:36:41Z")

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Palin’s reactions/actions remind me of that one crazy neighbor in every neighborhood, the one that would rather escalate than communicate. The one that’s always in some psycho fight with somebody, anybody.

I’m a Letterman fan, I saw the jokes, I saw the clarification, I’ve seen all her remarks. I think it was a lazy throw-away joke, I believe he intended no malice, and I think they should both let it go. It was never as big of a deal as people are making it.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/464 "2009-06-14T02:41:43Z")

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> [@Plan\_B](#):
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> And the far more important thing is that the family chose to bring the baby to life, which was looked on as admirable.

Admirable? That Bristol “chose” to have the baby rather than abort it? She “chose”? Yes, McCain, Palin et al. sure did go on and on celebrating her “choice” all right.

But what kind of “choice” was it? Does anyone seriously think Bristol could have gotten an abortion without her parents’ knowledge, or that they’d permit it? And what kind of blatant hypocritical crap is it to celebrate your pregnant daughter’s “choice” when you’re hellbent on taking that _choice_ away from every freaking woman in the nation?

Admirable? Spare me, please. All that “choice” bullshit was the true hypocrisy in Bristol’s pregnancy.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/465 "2009-06-14T03:37:56Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Admirable? That Bristol “chose” to have the baby rather than abort it? She “chose”? Yes, McCain, Palin et al. sure did go on and on celebrating her “choice” all right.
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> But what kind of “choice” was it? Does anyone seriously think Bristol could have gotten an abortion without her parents’ knowledge, or that they’d permit it? And what kind of blatant hypocritical crap is it to celebrate your pregnant daughter’s “choice” when you’re hellbent on taking that _choice_ away from every freaking woman in the nation?
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> Admirable? Spare me, please. All that “choice” bullshit was the true hypocrisy in Bristol’s pregnancy.

The really interesting thing is that most of Gov. Palin’s supporters are dead set against giving girls like Bristol that choice.

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**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/466 "2009-06-14T04:06:08Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Funny how Letterman even apologized for it and yet some imbeciles keep defending it.

Yeah, I’d noticed that too. Some of these leftists are just so hateful and rigid in their thinking that I guess that’s all they can do.

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**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/467 "2009-06-14T04:08:00Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> The really interesting thing is that most of Gov. Palin’s supporters are dead set against giving girls like Bristol that choice.

Not me; hey I even chose a user name based a birth control technique. Who else can make that claim?

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/468 "2009-06-14T04:08:34Z")

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The imbeciles are those who say he apologized because he didn’t.

Funny how Palin refused to go there and make up. She knows full well she would be pwned and come out looking like a fool.

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**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/469 "2009-06-14T04:10:43Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Admirable? Spare me, please. All that “choice” bullshit was the true hypocrisy in Bristol’s pregnancy.

I think you’re making the error of deciding how conservatives are supposed to think, and then getting enraged that they don’t fall into line according to your view. I’m a fiscal conservative, but I’m to the left of BHO on gay marriage. Hope that doesn’t ruin your sleep.

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**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/470 "2009-06-14T04:12:54Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> The imbeciles are those who say he apologized because he didn’t.

I think that’s kind of a grey area. He apologized but it was very weak. I’ll give it a 50%

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**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/471 "2009-06-14T04:17:26Z")

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> [@maladroit](#):
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> I believe he intended no malice,

Are you serious?? :eek:

“I don’t mean this in a bad way, but your daughter’s a slut”

Right.

Do you have any children, by any chance?

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**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/472 "2009-06-14T04:43:11Z")

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Here’s more on the tough contradictions that Palin poses for rigid thinkers:

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> In discussing l’affaire Letterman, the question was asked: Why is Sarah Palin’s family a target for Leftoid attacks?
> 
> To be perfectly fair (I hate it when that becomes necessary) Palin’s family is a strong point of her appeal. In fact, one of the main reason the Leftoids have to deal with a stereotyped construct is that their heads threaten to explode if they are ever forced to consider the reality.
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> Stereotype: Womyn® are good Progressive Democrats.  
> Reality: Sarah Palin is a Republican.
> 
> Stereotype: Only Democrats give power to Womyn®  
> Reality: Sarah Palin is not just a Governor, she’s Governor of a State where the Governor has real power.
> 
> Stereotype: All manly men are part of Teh Patriarchy, dedicated to preventing Womyn® from achievement and deeply resentful of anything resembling a subordinate position.  
> Reality: Todd Palin is a manly man with a manly occupation; nevertheless he seems quite cheerful and accepting that his wife’s occupation is much higher on the social scale than his.
> 
> Stereotype: Good Progressive Womyn® are supposed to abort their babies to prevent career difficulties, especially if they might have medical problems.  
> Reality: Sarah Palin has several (three?) children, the latest of which has Down’s Syndrome, and seems perfectly capable of handling her duties as Governor despite any child-care difficulties.
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> Stereotype:Patriarchal manly men don’t participate in child-rearing; they force the Womyn® in their lives to do it all, which is why Progressive Womyn® have to avoid childbearing if possible.  
> Reality: Todd Palin apparently participates wholeheartedly in child-rearing.
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> Stereotype: Winger dupes of the Patriarchy are supposed to be disgusted with childbearing out of wedlock, call such girls “sluts” etc., and cast them out.  
> Reality: Bristol Palin is an unwed mother. The Palin family (all of them, including Todd and the grandparents) has been supportive.
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> There is more, but you get the idea — the whole Palin family is a direct challenge to the Leftoids’ bigoted (yes, that’s what it is), stereotyped notion of what a family of right-wing God-botherers should be.

For the whole article and comments from a different group:

[http://proteinwisdom.com/pub/?p=2844](http://proteinwisdom.com/pub/?p=2844)

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/473 "2009-06-14T04:45:43Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> There is no question that abstinence works. Where she went wrong was in not applying it. There is also no question that birth control works, unless one fails in applying it. So the fact that she ignored the teachings of abstinence makes abstinence no more inadequate than ignoring the need for condoms or birth control pills makes makes them inadequate.

Abstinence isn’t the bullshit part of abstinence only - the bullshit is the only part. As far as I know, all sex education classes for kids teach that abstinence is best. The good ones also teach what to do when it isn’t going to work.  
Utopians are hard realists when compared to those who think kids are going to keep from having sex thanks to a promise made when 13.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/474 "2009-06-14T04:51:06Z")

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> [@Plan\_B](#):
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> Are you serious?? :eek:
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> “I don’t mean this in a bad way, but your daughter’s a slut”
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> Right.
> 
> Do you have any children, by any chance?

Actually the joke was about A-Rod being a horn dog, and keeping young girls away from him. And yes, I have two daughters, did not teach them in an abstinence only way, and neither ever got pregnant.  
So my family is better qualified on this subject than the Palins.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/475 "2009-06-14T04:52:28Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> That is not what happened. Are you OK. I am beginning to worry about you.

I’ve seen articles in the paper paraphrasing the joke to make it sound as if he explicitly mentioned the 14 year old. So much for the liberal media, eh?

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**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/476 "2009-06-14T05:01:46Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Actually the joke was about A-Rod being a horn dog, and keeping young girls away from him. And yes, I have two daughters, did not teach them in an abstinence only way, and neither ever got pregnant.  
> So my family is better qualified on this subject than the Palins.

What makes you think this was directed at you? You’re not a sock, are you?:eek:

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/477 "2009-06-14T05:12:48Z")

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> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> I know it’s beyond trivial, but three more pages without mention that this was provided in [post 323](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11239235&postcount=323)?

I think the point was is it common among educated people. The answer, of course, is no.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/478 "2009-06-14T05:18:45Z")

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> [@Plan\_B](#):
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> Here’s more on the tough contradictions that Palin poses for rigid thinkers:

Holy cow what a load of horseshit–emblematic of the narrow-minded, out-dated stereotypes the “Rightoids” (:rolleyes:) have of liberal attitudes, so enamored are they of their own smug self-righteousness.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/479 "2009-06-14T05:20:32Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Abstinence isn’t the bullshit part of abstinence only - the bullshit is the only part. As far as I know, all sex education classes for kids teach that abstinence is best. The good ones also teach what to do when it isn’t going to work.  
> Utopians are hard realists when compared to those who think kids are going to keep from having sex thanks to a promise made when 13.

Yes, sex education has been a triumph in the UK since its introduction in the 60s. The more they increase it and the more the age of its introduction is lowered the more the rate of teenage pregnancies inexorably climbs.

One might be forgiven for wondering if there’s a correlation between those facts.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/480 "2009-06-14T05:26:28Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> Funny how Palin refused to go there and make up. She knows full well she would be pwned and come out looking like a fool.

No offense, but she managed to accomplish this talking to Katie Couric. Dave could bend over backwards being gracious and accomodating and she would still succeed in saying something idiotic.

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