# Fuck David Letterman and all misogynistic leftists who support him on this **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287 "2009-06-10T01:51:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/521 "2009-06-15T13:27:37Z")
Not according to the esteemed scholar **Carol Stream**. I’m curious to know what her rationale is. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/522 "2009-06-15T13:35:36Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > I’m still not seeing the “lefty” component of this. Is it because the joke was made against the family of a Republican, or are lefties supposed to make more tasteless jokes? Or both? It’s mainly because Letterman is a flaming liberal. And I have to agree - the joke was brainless. It was a cheap shot in incredibly bad taste. In other words, typical Letterman. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/523 "2009-06-15T13:38:42Z")
[Obama without his teleprompter](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47sO1TCVmE) Just imagine the derision if this had been Bush, and imagine the scorn with which the lame excuse of sleeplessness would have been met. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/524 "2009-06-15T13:38:56Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Are you fucking serious? > > Have you ever thought that a woman might think abstinence is the best policy \* because \* she repeatedly fucked a 90 IQ highschool Hockey jock without birthcontrol and she doen’t want others making her mistake? > > That’s not ignorance, it’s advocating a policy which might spare others her own mistake. The only ignorance on display here is your own. If you bothered to read the whole thread, or even the last five pages, you’d know that not only did she fail to be abstinent herself, she told Greta Van Susteren _on national television_ that abstinence-only education doesn’t work. She’s therefore advocating a policy which she doesn’t personally believe in- presumably either as a way into politics or because her mother asked her to. That makes her a colossal hypocrite. That said, I reiterate that everyone calling her a whore needs to shut the fuck up. It’s inaccurate, unnecessary and inflammatory. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/525 "2009-06-15T13:39:09Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Dude there was a difference between “W” and “Dubya.” You know it and I know it. I can’t even count the number of times I heard, or read, the term “Dubya” thrown around, and it was _always_ in a negative context, sometimes accentuated with a Texas accent and usually with the implication that Bush was some kind of stupid, redneck moron. Bush was an ineffectual president and he was a bad public speaker but a moron he was not. They don’t typically allow morons to fly an F-102 Delta Dagger, which is widely regarded as one of the most difficult fighter planes to fly and which is what Bush operated during his much-mocked service in the Air National Guard. 1. He was nicknamed “Dubya” by his family and friends long before he was a candidate for anything (and your alleged distinction between “W” and “Dubya” is lost onme). 2. Yes he was a moron, and yes they did typically allow morons to take flying lessons with obsolote aircraft in order to keep rich kids out of the war. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/526 "2009-06-15T14:28:15Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > Why does this bother libs? Obama himself has owned the name, using it several times. Just answer them with "Yes, Barack **Hussein** Obama is the President, mine and **yours**. Suck on it, loser 😉 > > I actually think calling him Barry would be better dig but then I’m not trying to brand him as a dangerous muslim. It bothers us because it’s obviously meant to be derogatory and we like the guy. That should be easy to see. Nobody says it should be illegal. I merely find it to be obnoxious. It’s also a great way to predict whether anything else a person might say will be of value to me. The other reason is that people who do it, as in this thread, deny that it’s obviously race or religion-baiting. This is made more complicated by the fact that most people who put emphasis on Hussein are too stupid to define the difference between being Muslim and Arab. “Hussein” symbolizes something bad in the minds of people who insist on using his middle name. It’s not our fault they’re too stupid to know exactly what that is. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/527 "2009-06-15T14:36:21Z")
As Jefferson said, “It all depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/528 "2009-06-15T14:38:50Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > We had eight years of people calling George W. Bush “Dubya.” Referring to him by an exaggerated form of his middle initial that, in many cases, was intended to imply that he was dumb and ignorant. For those people who will inevitably question how “Dubya” implies that he is dumb and ignorant (most likely for the purposes of playing Devil’s Advocate), it should be clear and probably is but I’ll explain it in any case. (Corrupting the pronunciation of the letter “W” into “Dubya” is mimicking a stereotypical Texan or Southern accent, and the implication therein is that people from Texas are stupid.) I’ll leave aside the fact that for all intents and purposes Bush is an East Coast blueblood whose “Texan” pedigree is completely self-invented - that’s the way HE presented himself, so that’s the way he will be judged, for better or for worse. > > There’s also the “chimp” nickname, which I distinctly recall being bandied about here on these boards (try doing the same with Obama - you’ll be hanged, drawn and quartered.) > > Let me state for the record that I don’t have any objection to the above derogatory nicknames of Bush whatsoever, because I believe in free speech - what’s important is that they were said. > > In light of the above, I don’t find it surprising or upsetting that people call Obama “Hussein.” People call Obama ‘Hussein’ because they want to call attention to him being a Muslim. Are you saying that being a Muslim is as much of a defect in character as being stupid? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/529 "2009-06-15T14:41:04Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > People call Obama ‘Hussein’ because they want to call attention to him being a Muslim. Are you saying that being a Muslim is as much of a defect in character as being stupid? People call him Hussein because they want to call attention to the fact that he has a Muslim name. Anyone who still thinks he _is_ a Muslim at this point doesn’t have the IQ to sustain cardiovascular function. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/530 "2009-06-15T14:41:13Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Come on! “W” was a Republican thjng. Just look at their bumpers. I haven’t seen a single “Hussein” bumper sticker yet. Lots of people I know started putting ‘Hussein’ as their middle-name on facebook when people started using Hussein as an epithet. It’s really amazing to me that Carol, Argent et. al. do not understand why it’s different to call him Hussein than to call him Dubya. Calling him Hussein reminds us of his funny Arab name, and shows us that he is defective because he’s got an Arab name. Dubya tells us that he’s defective because he’s stupid. See the difference all? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/531 "2009-06-15T14:42:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > People call him Hussein because they want to call attention to the fact that he has a Muslim name. Anyone who still thinks he _is_ a Muslim at this point doesn’t have the IQ to sustain cardiovascular function. Yes obviously, and that’s why ‘racist’ is the closest term to describe that behavior, no it’s not precise, but ethnocentrist doesn’t quite roll off the tongue. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/532 "2009-06-15T14:43:36Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > A friend of mine makes this point and I agree. As much as I disliked Bush as president and besides his English language problems he is not a moron. Assuming that is like hearing Lou Ferregno with his speech impediment and judging his IQ from that. He’s huge and muscular and he talks funny. He _must_ be stupid. A bogus conclusion. I’ll try to find a better word than moron to describe his failure as a president. > > I’m actually wondering in today’s complex world if any one man is capable. Here’s how I put it. Bush isn’t stupid, just too stupid to be President. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/533 "2009-06-15T14:48:19Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I’m curious to know: what \*is \*the point of referring to him as “Hussein?” It’s obviously pejorative. So what’s the pejor, as it were? No, it’s more of a spectacle thing. Just sit in group of liberals, and with a wry grin and a knowing look, casually whisper ‘Hussein’, and watch as all the liberals leap to their feet, their undies so instantaneously twisted and wedged, that they dance on their feet like marionettes, spitting and sputtering. It’s quite hilarious. It is curious though, why people would think ‘Hussein’ is race baiting, but not ‘Barack’ or ‘Obama’. It’s not like any of his names are red-blooded American names from the Bible. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/534 "2009-06-15T14:50:14Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > If you bothered to read the whole thread, or even the last five pages, you’d know that not only did she fail to be abstinent herself, she told Greta Van Susteren _on national television_ that abstinence-only education doesn’t work. > > She’s therefore advocating a policy which she doesn’t personally believe in- presumably either as a way into politics or because her mother asked her to. > > That makes her a colossal hypocrite. > > That said, I reiterate that everyone calling her a whore needs to shut the fuck up. It’s inaccurate, unnecessary and inflammatory. Duh, really? Of course I’ve read the thread, you moron, and if you maybe took a refresher course in Comprehension 101 you’d realize that what she was actually saying in that interview is that abstinence-only is not realistic for _all_ teens. She obviously believes it’s worth doing for that number it can reach. As it happens, I don’t agree. But once again, espousing beliefs which you dismiss with a contemptuous wave of the hand does not make a person a hypocrite. You really think she’d go on television and say none of this crap works but I strongly support it? Oh please. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/535 "2009-06-15T14:52:07Z")
Since we were fortunate enough to have two, George Bush’s ,as president, we require a way to differentiate. The W or Dubya just separated them . We have not had other Obama presidents. Barack, or Obama refer only to one. This is a manufactured offense. There is a reason to use Hussein. It is not to refer to him ,but it is an attempt to slur. Apparently some people are swayed by his middle name that he is a danger to America. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/536 "2009-06-15T14:53:42Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > No, it’s more of a spectacle thing. Just sit in group of liberals, and with a wry grin and a knowing look, casually whisper ‘Hussein’, and watch as all the liberals leap to their feet, their undies so instantaneously twisted and wedged, that they dance on their feet like marionettes, spitting and sputtering. > > It’s quite hilarious. > > It is curious though, why people would think ‘Hussein’ is race baiting, but not ‘Barack’ or ‘Obama’. It’s not like any of his names are red-blooded American names from the Bible. Because people understand why they are using ‘Hussein’ like that, to conjure up images of Saddam. Acting like anyone on the right who says ‘Hussein’ and doesn’t mean it that way is just lying. That’s exactly what’s meant by it and you know it. Your ability to get kneejerk liberals to jerk their knees with it is immaterial. Everyone knows what’s being implied. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/537 "2009-06-15T14:58:15Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > No, it’s more of a spectacle thing. Just sit in group of liberals, and with a wry grin and a knowing look, casually whisper ‘Hussein’, and watch as all the liberals leap to their feet, their undies so instantaneously twisted and wedged, that they dance on their feet like marionettes, spitting and sputtering. > > It’s quite hilarious. I do the same thing too, only I use jungle bunny. It is fall on the floor funny. Those silly liberals. Why should they get upset? He is from Africa after all. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/538 "2009-06-15T15:02:54Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Come on! “W” was a Republican thjng. Just look at their bumpers. I haven’t seen a single “Hussein” bumper sticker yet. It was not a Republican thing, although some Republicans may have used it affectionately. It was coined by the liberal Texas columnist Molly Ivins and meant derisively. (She was no fan of Bush at all.) ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/539 "2009-06-15T15:05:36Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I do the same thing too, only I use jungle bunny. > > It is fall on the floor funny. Those silly liberals. Why should they get upset? He is from Africa after all. That’s good and all but I find nigger generally works even better. In fact people must find it so funny that they stop hanging around with me for fear that they will wet themselves when I’m around. At least that’s why I assume the stop coming around when they hear I’m gonna be there… ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/540 "2009-06-15T15:06:50Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > No, it’s more of a spectacle thing. Just sit in group of liberals, and with a wry grin and a knowing look, casually whisper ‘Hussein’, and watch as all the liberals leap to their feet, their undies so instantaneously twisted and wedged, that they dance on their feet like marionettes, spitting and sputtering. > > It’s quite hilarious. Oh. So it’s trolling. Thanks for the info. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287.md?page=28)