# Fuck David Letterman and all misogynistic leftists who support him on this

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**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287 "2009-06-10T01:51:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/541 "2009-06-15T15:09:53Z")

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You know, I love it when both liberals and conservatives get together to bash each other. I’d say Bristol is not a slut and calling Obama by his middle name is a cheap shot. I also say that I don’t give a shit what jokes Letterman tells because that’s how he makes a living.

Neither side has the high road on this one.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/542 "2009-06-15T15:10:41Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Yes obviously, and that’s why ‘racist’ is the closest term to describe that behavior, no it’s not precise, but ethnocentrist doesn’t quite roll off the tongue.

This leads us back to arguably the most offensive aspect of the whole “Hussein” thing, which is the implicit idea that being a Muslim or an Arab is somehow bad or un-American in the first place.

IME, the single greatest achievement of the Obama campaign was walking a tightrope between offending the Muslim community and giving the opposition more fuel for the “Secret Muslim!” flames.

It would have been nice if he could have said what Colin Powell did, but of course Powell didn’t have to worry about getting elected, and he wasn’t the one being called a sekrit muslim.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/543 "2009-06-15T15:12:13Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Because people understand why they are using ‘Hussein’ like that, to conjure up images of Saddam. Acting like anyone on the right who says ‘Hussein’ and doesn’t mean it that way is just lying. That’s exactly what’s meant by it and you know it. Your ability to get kneejerk liberals to jerk their knees with it is immaterial. Everyone knows what’s being implied.

No doubt were his middle name “Chavez” or “Dahmer” or something else that lent itself to facile association, we’d be hearing it hammered on in the same way.

The use of pejoratives doesn’t particularly bother me, so much as the disingenuous attempts to deny it. I find _that_ offensive, whether we’re discussing Obama or Bush or anyone else.

I’ve never heard it proposed that the nickname “Dubya” is pejorative, though, being that it was either self-appointed or created by his close relations. (“Dumbya,” “Shrub,” etc., sure…)

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/544 "2009-06-15T15:17:58Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I’ve never heard it proposed that the nickname “Dubya” is pejorative, though, being that it was either self-appointed or created by his close relations. (“Dumbya,” “Shrub,” etc., sure…)

Didn’t he call his first company the Spanish for Shrub, Arbusto?

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**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/545 "2009-06-15T15:20:00Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> At the risk of stating the obvious, the batshit wing of the Republican Party thinks all Muslims are terrorists. Hussein is a Muslim name, therefore Obama is a terrorist.

At the risk of stating the obvious, the batshit wing of the Democratic Party thinks all Republicans are racist. Bush is an Anglo name, therefore anyone who voted for Bush is a racist.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/546 "2009-06-15T15:22:29Z")

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> [@Who\_me\_1](#):
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> You know, I love it when both liberals and conservatives get together to bash each other. I’d say Bristol is not a slut and calling Obama by his middle name is a cheap shot. I also say that I don’t give a shit what jokes Letterman tells because that’s how he makes a living.
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> Neither side has the high road on this one.

Well what’s offensive about it is that the joke wasn’t about Bristol, it was about her 14 year old MINOR daughter.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/547 "2009-06-15T15:23:38Z")

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> [@yojimbo](#):
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> Didn’t he call his first company the Spanish for Shrub, Arbusto?

The Spanish for Bush yes.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/548 "2009-06-15T15:28:45Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> [Obama without his teleprompter](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47sO1TCVmE)
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> Just imagine the derision if this had been Bush, and imagine the scorn with which the lame excuse of sleeplessness would have been met.

This is just one example of Obama’s jaw-dropping stupidity. Of course, if he were a Republican, David Letterman would be using clips like this on each show. And this is just one of many examples indicating that Obama is an idiot. What about when Obama was in some Midwest town that had recently seen some deadly tornadoes? Obama told everyone that around “10,000” people had died; the actual death toll was something like “twelve.”

He has material like this _and_ an endless supply of idiotic Joe Biden gaffes, but Letterman feels much more comfortable attacking Sarah Palin’s family and making lame Dick Cheney pacemaker jokes. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/549 "2009-06-15T15:30:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Me]  
If you bothered to read the whole thread, or even the last five pages, you’d know that not only did she fail to be abstinent herself, she told Greta Van Susteren on national television that abstinence-only education doesn’t work.

She’s therefore advocating a policy which she doesn’t personally believe in- presumably either as a way into politics or because her mother asked her to.

That makes her a colossal hypocrite.  
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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> Of course I’ve read the thread, you moron, and if you maybe took a refresher course in Comprehension 101 you’d realize that what she was actually saying in that interview is that abstinence-only is not realistic for _all_ teens. She obviously believes it’s worth doing for that number it can reach.

:dubious:

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> (CNN) – In her first interview since giving birth, the teenage daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said having a child is not “glamorous,” and that telling young people to be abstinent is “not realistic at all.”

Moron.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/550 "2009-06-15T15:31:38Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> This is just one example of Obama’s jaw-dropping stupidity. Of course, if he were a Republican, David Letterman would be using clips like this on each show. And this is just one of many examples indicating that Obama is an idiot. What about when Obama was in some Midwest town that had recently seen some deadly tornadoes? Obama told everyone that around “10,000” people had died; the actual death toll was something like “twelve.”
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> He has material like this _and_ an endless supply of idiotic Joe Biden gaffes, but Letterman feels much more comfortable attacking Sarah Palin’s family and making lame Dick Cheney pacemaker jokes. :rolleyes:

THe difference is that Obama is a very smart guy who was caught off guard with the teleprompter thing. George W. Bush is _actually very, very stupid._

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/551 "2009-06-15T15:39:09Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> THe difference is that Obama is a very smart guy who was caught off guard with the teleprompter thing. George W. Bush is _actually very, very stupid._

No, he’s not. He won an election for Governor of one of the most populous states and won two Presidential elections. Stupid people don’t do that.

He wasn’t an intellectual, and even seemed to glory in his ignorance at times, but he certainly wasn’t stupid.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/552 "2009-06-15T15:41:47Z")

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> [@gravitycrash](#):
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> At the risk of stating the obvious, the batshit wing of the Democratic Party thinks all Republicans are racist. Bush is an Anglo name, therefore anyone who voted for Bush is a racist.

Whew, close call, there. You risked stating the obvious, but luckily your point turned out to be not only non-obvious, but nonsensical.

The second sentence doesn’t follow from the first. What’s the significance of a Republican having an Anglo name if all Republicans are racists?

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/553 "2009-06-15T15:49:18Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> THe difference is that Obama is a very smart guy who was caught off guard with the teleprompter thing. George W. Bush is _actually very, very stupid._

Would a smart guy take a look at Joe Biden and think, “Now _there’s_ someone who should be next in line for the presidency?” 😕

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/554 "2009-06-15T16:01:57Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Would a smart guy take a look at Joe Biden and think, “Now _there’s_ someone who should be next in line for the presidency?” 😕

I’d pick him over Dick Fucking Cheney any day of the week.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/555 "2009-06-15T16:03:13Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> No, he’s not. He won an election for Governor of one of the most populous states and won two Presidential elections. Stupid people don’t do that.
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> He wasn’t an intellectual, and even seemed to glory in his ignorance at times, but he certainly wasn’t stupid.

I don’t equate “connected” and “manipulative” with “smart”. He may be shrewd, he may have a lot of pull, but he’s not smart.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/556 "2009-06-15T16:09:02Z")

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Well, got us there, I guess. I mean, you think “unqualified ingoramus” and “vice president”, and the first thing that leaps to mind is Joe Biden. You know, he claims he can see Delaware from his front porch! And did he have the foresight to have needful anti-witch protections installed? He did not!

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/557 "2009-06-15T16:12:20Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Would a smart guy take a look at Joe Biden and think, “Now _there’s_ someone who should be next in line for the presidency?” 😕

Sure, why not? Obama’s selection of Biden as Vice President certainly didn’t torpedo his election chances, so it seems that a majority of people who could be arsed to vote disagree with your assessment.

Feel free to expand your attempted hijack to explain why Sarah Palin would have been a better choice than Biden as someone to be next in line for the presidency. That should be good for a few laughs.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/558 "2009-06-15T16:14:31Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Would a smart guy take a look at Joe Biden and think, “Now _there’s_ someone who should be next in line for the presidency?” 😕

Nobody selects a vice-presidential candidate based on whether or not he’d be a good President- Democratic or Republican.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/559 "2009-06-15T16:16:26Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> Whew, close call, there. You risked stating the obvious, but luckily your point turned out to be not only non-obvious, but nonsensical.
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> The second sentence doesn’t follow from the first. What’s the significance of a Republican having an Anglo name if all Republicans are racists?

The average 21st century republican doesn’t get bogged down with logical connections in their arguments.

As to the argument buried in the gravitycrash’s mumblings, he’s basically saying, “Democrats do it too!”

Which ignores the primary problem in 21st century American politics. Democrats and Republicans both have a stupid, uneducated wing of their party. However for some reason, the stupid and uneducated wing of the Republican party is _in charge_. The Republican Base is a collection of absolute morons assured of biblical inerrancy and that everyone out of work or in need of healthcare is where they are because of laziness or terrible vices.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/560 "2009-06-15T16:28:37Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> THe difference is that Obama is a very smart guy who was caught off guard with the teleprompter thing. George W. Bush is _actually very, very stupid._

No, a very smart guy would improvise, and improvise brilliantly.

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