# Fuck David Letterman and all misogynistic leftists who support him on this **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287 "2009-06-10T01:51:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/781 "2009-06-18T15:39:44Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Please just admit that you were in error and let this unproductive side argument just pass. Remember that it all began with > [@Mr. Moto](#): > > His whole life was political. Now try again. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/782 "2009-06-18T15:40:20Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > As to Washington’s being “intimate” with “every political leader in the colony”, perhaps it is best to draw a discreet veil over such matters. Those filthy, degenerate freemasons. [/right-wing conspiracy nut] ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/783 "2009-06-18T15:43:36Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > As to Washington’s being “intimate” with “every political leader in the colony”, perhaps it is best to draw a discreet veil over such matters. Well, that DOES clear up all the “Washington Slept Here” signs… ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/784 "2009-06-18T15:43:59Z")
**Mr. Moto** - If I understand the argument, it’s: Moto: Obama doesn’t have more political experience than Palin. He was only a one-term senator and a state senator. Diogenes: Political experience doesn’t matter. Look at George Washington. Moto: He had political experience. House of Burgesses, blah blah. Diogenes: Next-to-no experience. Moto: Non-political jobs where he displayed political acumen count. See the problem there? Anyway, to hell with Washington. Lincoln. Eisenhower. ---
**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/785 "2009-06-18T15:44:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You still don’t fucking get what she was doing, or why it matters, do you? Is this the part where you respond to requests to elaborate with nothing but citeless claims of already having done so? And insinuations that the asker is mentally deficient for not already knowing the answer? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/786 "2009-06-18T15:46:28Z")
> [@Algorithm](#): > > Is this the part where you respond to requests to elaborate with nothing but citeless claims of already having done so? And insinuations that the asker is mentally deficient for not already knowing the answer? I’ve already told you the answer to that. Look it up, dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/787 "2009-06-18T15:49:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Now try again. Not quite - it began with **Dio** claiming that Washington had no political experience before becoming President, a fact easily disproved. And since Washington first held an appointed office as a teenager, I think the “whole life” thing is easily sustained, though in retrospect I would change that phrasing to say that Washington was political his entire life, not that his entire life was political. Happy? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/788 "2009-06-18T15:49:29Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I’ve already told you the answer to that. Look it up, dumbass. He was responding to **ElvisL1ves** , not you. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/789 "2009-06-18T15:51:21Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That’s correct. Next to none. He was in the equivalent of a state legislature. Big deal. So was Obama. Washington never even got out of the lower house like Obama did. 16 years as a politician in the lower house of the state legislature (at a time when there was no national legislature) does not, in my opinion, qualify as next to no political experience. You know, the graceful thing would be to simply admit your error, rather than admit it and then try to minimize it. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/790 "2009-06-18T15:53:12Z")
> [@bup](#): > > **Mr. Moto** - > > If I understand the argument, it’s: > > Moto: Obama doesn’t have more political experience than Palin. He was only a one-term senator and a state senator. > > Diogenes: Political experience doesn’t matter. Look at George Washington. > > Moto: He had political experience. House of Burgesses, blah blah. > > Diogenes: Next-to-no experience. > > Moto: Non-political jobs where he displayed political acumen count. > > See the problem there? > > Anyway, to hell with Washington. Lincoln. Eisenhower. What problem? I didn’t say anything about Palin vis a vis Obama, at least in this thread. I was merely correcting an obvious factual error, and frankly the maker of that error has a bad habit of not checking these simple facts beforehand and then not admitting that he was wrong. That is just about the definition of ignorance, and we’re supposed to be against that here, at least in theory. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/791 "2009-06-18T15:53:45Z")
Well, yes, of course! **Dio** ’s remarks were wildly exaggerated and hysterically overblown, while your own were very slightly inaccurate, due to an off-handed choice of wording. Yes, its all quite clear now, Mr. Kettle. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/792 "2009-06-18T15:55:17Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Think about that some more, if you can force yourself. “God damned cretin”, was it? Oh, please. _Ad hominem_ does not equal gratuitous insults, you drooling idiot. _Ad hominem_ is attacking the person _instead_ of the argument. No amount of cheerleading from **Shayna** will change what Obama did or didn’t do. Ignoring a plethora of cites because you don’t like someone’s attitude is a textbook example of _ad hominem_. Insulting someone _while_ responding to the argument isn’t. Dumbass. > [@jayjay](#): > > He was responding to **ElvisL1ves** , not you. I think you done been wooshed, sir. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/793 "2009-06-18T15:56:04Z")
And, just to remind us all, **Dio** initially said Washington had no political experience at all. That’s a reply to **elucidator** BTW. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/794 "2009-06-18T16:04:34Z")
I quite thank you for your consideration, as my short term memory is not as it should be. But please be assured that I am quite functional within a limit of three _fucking_ minutes! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/795 "2009-06-18T16:05:41Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > gratuitous insults, you drooling idiot. 😃 > [@](#): > > Ignoring a plethora of cites because you don’t like someone’s attitude is a textbook example of _ad hominem_. I did suggest you think it over some more. I’ll now repeat the suggestion, but with a bit less optimism. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/796 "2009-06-18T16:07:06Z")
> [@Algorithm](#): > > Is this the part where you respond to requests to elaborate with nothing but citeless claims of already having done so? In a word, whatthe_fuck_? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/797 "2009-06-18T16:15:33Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > 😃 I’m well aware I’m being gratuitous, Pig Vomit, and having quite a bit of fun doing it. If you ever decide to start arguing in good faith in the future (I certainly don’t expect you to start now after all the insults), I’ll rethink it. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/798 "2009-06-18T16:16:56Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I am quite functional within a limit of three _fucking_ minutes! Meaning there are times when your entire memories of your entire life are about fucking? Where can I get some of that? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/799 "2009-06-18T16:17:19Z")
**Elvis1Lives** - First, it pains me to have to type _Elvis_ when addressing _you_, even more than it pains me to type _Diogenes_ in addressing someone who proclaims confidence of his totalitarianisticly (totalitarianistically?) liberal positions with fierce adamance. Second, You’re just not getting that _ad hominem_ is not _any_ name-calling, are you? If **Bosstone’s** arguments consisted _entirely_ of calling you a drooling idiot and a cretin, you’d have a point. But they didn’t. He pointed out that shayna made a ton of unimpeached citations, _then_ called you a cretin. Your ‘think about it’ was to think only about the fact that he called you a cretin. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/800 "2009-06-18T16:19:46Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > If you ever decide to start arguing in good faith in the future (I certainly don’t expect you to start now after all the insults), I’ll rethink it. All “_the_” insults", that is? And the lack of good faith is _mine_? :rolleyes: Forget it. There’s no evidence that you’re even capable of rethinking anyway. Not until you put down the fucking Kool-Ade. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287.md?page=41)