# Fuck David Letterman and all misogynistic leftists who support him on this **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287 "2009-06-10T01:51:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/801 "2009-06-18T16:22:02Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Choosing to rebel against the Crown - was that a political decision? > > Were his dealings with the Continental Congress after his appointment as commander-in-chief of the Continental Army political in nature? Many of his decisions displayed a remarkable political acumen. > > He was president of the Constitutional Convention and voted on the articles that were debated - so his stamp is on the Constitution in force today. Again, this would count as political experience to any reasonable person. > > Please just admit that you were in error and let this unproductive side argument just pass. I already admitted I was in error. I was unaware that he had once held a minor, insignificant elected position in the lower house of a colonial legislative assembly. I do not accept your attempts to broaden “political experience” to include anything outside of elected office. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/802 "2009-06-18T16:23:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I quite thank you for your consideration, as my short term memory is not as it should be. But please be assured that I am quite functional within a limit of three _fucking_ minutes! My bad. It was in fact a reply to the previous post in which a faulty recap by \*\*bup \*\*was quoted. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/803 "2009-06-18T16:23:30Z")
> [@bup](#): > > You’re just not getting that _ad hominem_ is not _any_ name-calling, are you? You’re not getting that reading a **Shayna** post gives one no clearer an understanding of the real world than does reading an Ann Coulter column, are you? > [@](#): > > He pointed out that shayna made a ton of unimpeached citations, _then_ called you a cretin. He claimed that’s what she did, while ignoring the suggestion that they were filtered, partisan, and off-topic and that she resisted exploring them with vehement personal invective. “Unimpeached” my ass. :rolleyes: You need to think about it too. Or try to. If you can. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/804 "2009-06-18T16:25:26Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > My bad. It was in fact a reply to the previous post in which a faulty recap by \*\*bup \*\*was quoted. My apologies. _Por nada._ It never happened. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/805 "2009-06-18T16:26:22Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > All “_the_” insults", that is? And the lack of good faith is _mine_? :rolleyes: Why yes, yes it is. I’ve provided substance with my snark, while you have only snark. And it’s uncreative snark at that, which is the worst kind. > [@](#): > > Forget it. There’s no evidence that you’re even capable of rethinking anyway. Not until you put down the fucking Kool-Ade. I mean, look at this. What is it with you and the Kool-Ade? Too stupid to think of anything wittier? At least change it up, man! Call me brainwashed, or make some reference to the Obamessiah, or try out some other insults. Oh, I get it. You’re upset because your mom bought you the Grape Kool-Aid when you really wanted the Blastin’ Berry Cherry, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/806 "2009-06-18T16:26:29Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You’re not getting that reading a **Shayna** post gives one no clearer an understanding of the real world than does reading an Ann Coulter column, are you? Care to give us an example? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/807 "2009-06-18T16:29:03Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Why yes, yes it is. I’ve provided substance with my snark Where?:rolleyes: **RNATB** , click on Search, near the top of the page. Have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/808 "2009-06-18T16:31:25Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Where?:rolleyes: > > **RNATB** , click on Search, near the top of the page. Have fun. This is a gorgeous example of your lack of substance. You refuse to argue, only intimating that you’re right and we’re all Kool-Ade (sic) drinkers for not seeing it. _You have nothing._ Moon hoaxers have more substance than you do! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/809 "2009-06-18T16:33:07Z")
> [@Algorithm](#): > > Is this the part where you respond to requests to elaborate with nothing but citeless claims of already having done so? And insinuations that the asker is mentally deficient for not already knowing the answer? Well… [QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] Where? RNATB, click on Search, near the top of the page. Have fun. [/QUOTE] No, actually, I have a better idea. I’ll dismiss your claim out of hand since you have no interest in backing it up. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/810 "2009-06-18T16:34:17Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Not until you put down the fucking Kool-Ade. Aid. It’s spelled [Kool-Aid](http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf/Products/ProductInfoDisplay.aspx?SiteId=1&Product=4300002079), mallethead. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/811 "2009-06-18T16:35:21Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well… > > No, actually, I have a better idea. I’ll dismiss your claim out of hand since you have no interest in backing it up. I have no interest in spoon-feeding you for the sake of your amusement, if that’s what you mean. If you were really interested, you’d have been at least following the primary-season threads in GD last year. But you didn’t, and you’re not, so there’s no reason to trust you’re in good faith with this request. If that’s not the case, then you can do what I suggest and fucking catch up here. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/812 "2009-06-18T16:38:27Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > This is a gorgeous example of your lack of substance. You claimed to have provided some of your own _in this thread_, by way of showing (yourself) your own superiority. I simply asked where it is. You obviously can’t show any. All you have is **Shayna** esque invective, and, like here, somehow think that’s the same thing. Incredible. Now lecture us all some more about _ad hominems._ ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/813 "2009-06-18T16:42:52Z")
And to think, this thread started out being about how LETTERMAN is an asshole! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/814 "2009-06-18T16:43:37Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I have no interest in spoon-feeding you for the sake of your amusement, if that’s what you mean. If you were really interested, you’d have been at least following the primary-season threads in GD last year. But you didn’t, and you’re not, so there’s no reason to trust you’re in good faith with this request. > > If that’s not the case, then you can do what I suggest and fucking catch up here. I followed plenty of them, and saw no evidence of what you suggest. Obviously, **Shayna** was on Obama’s side- she freely admitted that she was a campaign volunteer. However, when she made a claim she backed it up. In any case, I can only conclude for now that **Algorithm** either made a remarkable guess, or was able to predict your actions based on past behavior. I don’t think you’ll be too surprised to hear I’m leaning toward the latter. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/815 "2009-06-18T16:44:33Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Aid. It’s spelled [Kool-Aid](http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf/Products/ProductInfoDisplay.aspx?SiteId=1&Product=4300002079), mallethead. Although it was actually [FlaVor-Aid](http://www.jelsert.com/products_flavoraid.asp) they used at Jonestown. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/816 "2009-06-18T16:46:05Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And to think, this thread started out being about how LETTERMAN is an asshole! Letterman is an asshole. Sarah Palin is a cloaca. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/817 "2009-06-18T16:46:57Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I do not accept your attempts to broaden “political experience” to include anything outside of elected office. I do not accept your attempts to restrict “political experience” to include elected office and nothing else. That frankly makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/818 "2009-06-18T16:48:07Z")
In the meanwhile, in another part of town, Letterman’s ratings increased like the libido of a teenager arriving at the beach. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/819 "2009-06-18T16:48:35Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You claimed to have provided some of your own _in this thread_, by way of showing (yourself) your own superiority. I simply asked where it is. You obviously can’t show any. All you have is **Shayna** esque invective, and, like here, somehow think that’s the same thing. Incredible. > > Now lecture us all some more about _ad hominems._ Well, since you’re clearly not old enough to chew your own food, I’ll have to spoonfeed you. (Hint: it’s much easier to go back and read posts from today than it is from 7 months ago.) I’ve even bolded the actual arguments I’ve made, just for you. > [@Bosstone](#): > > Oh for _fuck’s_ sake, you god damned cretin. > > **No matter how fervently Shayna supported/supports Obama, that doesn’t change the fact that she cited the hell out of her posts. This is _ad hominem_ in its purest form. Attacking Shayna personally doesn’t change the information she brought to the table.** Fucking _let it go_. > [@Bosstone](#): > > Oh, please. **_Ad hominem_ does not equal gratuitous insults** , you drooling idiot. **_Ad hominem_ is attacking the person _instead_ of the argument. No amount of cheerleading from Shayna will change what Obama did or didn’t do. Ignoring a plethora of cites because you don’t like someone’s attitude is a textbook example of _ad hominem_. Insulting someone _while_ responding to the argument isn’t.** Dumbass. Now, being quite serious for the moment: **Shayna** ’s cites may be problematic. They may not tell the whole story, or they may even be misleading in themselves. They might even directly contradict her because she never learned to read. There might be a million and one problems with her cites. Here’s the thing: _you don’t address the cites at all_. All you do is say that since **Shayna** is clearly drinking the Kool-Ade (sic), her posts can be discounted in their entirety. In doing so, you attack the poster and not her cites, and in doing so, you commit the argument fallacy _ad hominem_, which is where I originally started attacking _you_. Now, are you prepared to put up, or would you like to shut up? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/820 "2009-06-18T16:50:27Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I do not accept your attempts to restrict “political experience” to include elected office and nothing else. That frankly makes no sense. Did he hold any offices to which he was appointed by elected officials? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287.md?page=42)