# Fuck David Letterman and all misogynistic leftists who support him on this

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287 "2009-06-10T01:51:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/821 "2009-06-18T16:50:51Z")

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Wait…you mean this is excellent news for the Hillary campaign?

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**Author:** ![Kiber](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kiber/32/317_2.png) [@Kiber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiber)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/822 "2009-06-18T16:51:03Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Although it was actually [FlaVor-Aid](http://www.jelsert.com/products_flavoraid.asp) they used at Jonestown.

Wow - after 815 posts, I finally learned something in this thread.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/823 "2009-06-18T16:51:39Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I followed plenty of them, and saw no evidence of what you suggest.

Then nothing I could spoon-feed you with would get through the same filters you still have up. Ergo, I have no reason to bother with your phony “request”.

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> However, when she made a claim she backed it up.

I didn’t say she didn’t. Ann Coulter backs up her claims with cites as well. But that isn’t the problem with either one of them. As I said, and as you have pointedly ignored.  
**Vinyl Turnip** , Letterman is something of an asshole, sure, but mainly he’s just not funny or even inventive. You want an asshole on that show, let me point you to Paul Shaffer instead. All he does is guffaw slightly at each non-joke, repeat a few of Letterman’s words, and try to sound as cool as he thinks he looks with that shaved head and those indoor sunglasses. Pathetic little weasel.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/824 "2009-06-18T16:54:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I didn’t say she didn’t. Ann Coulter backs up her claims with cites as well. But that isn’t the problem with either one of them. As I said, and as you have pointedly ignored.

And yet Al Franken will go through Coulter’s cites and debunk them point by point, rather than just saying “Well, she called liberals traitors, therefore anything she has to say isn’t worth listening to.” That’s the main reason I respect his intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/825 "2009-06-18T16:55:49Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Then nothing I could spoon-feed you with would get through the same filters you still have up. Ergo, I have no reason to bother with your phony “request”.
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> I didn’t say she didn’t. Ann Coulter backs up her claims with cites as well. But that isn’t the problem with either one of them. As I said, and as you have pointedly ignored.

The same filters which have forced me to side with the anti-Obama crowd in this thread? Funny, that.

Tell me, then: what _is_ the problem? Other than vague and inexplicably misspelled references to Kool-Aid, you haven’t actually made a point, other than that you dislike **Shayna**.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/826 "2009-06-18T16:58:46Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Well, since you’re clearly not old enough to chew your own food, I’ll have to spoonfeed you.

You have a very self-serving concept of “substance”, then. All you’ve quoted yourself posting there is simple Pythonesque denial.

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> Here’s the thing: _you don’t address the cites at all_.

You don’t have to research each of Ann Coulter’s “cites” for your own, or explore each of her statements and its “reasoning”, before deciding that nothing else she writes is worth your time reading either, do you? The same principle applies to **Shayna**.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/827 "2009-06-18T16:59:46Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> In the meanwhile, in another part of town, Letterman’s ratings increased like the libido of a teenager arriving at the beach.

Or at [del]Willow[/del] Bristol Palin’s bedroom…

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/828 "2009-06-18T17:05:45Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You don’t have to research each of Ann Coulter’s “cites” for your own, or explore each of her statements and its “reasoning”, before deciding that nothing else she writes is worth your time reading either, do you? The same principle applies to **Shayna**.

My god, an actual response! Now we’re getting somewhere.

In fact, it is research into those very cites and exploration of those very statements that lead one to conclude whether or not a person is worth listening to, otherwise it’s simple prejudice. Coulter’s have been shown repeatedly to be bullshit. **Shayna** ’s, not so much. I followed those election-time threads too, and nobody was able to show that **Shayna** was full of shit, they could only say it.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/829 "2009-06-18T17:09:01Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> I do not accept your attempts to restrict “political experience” to include elected office and nothing else. That frankly makes no sense.

My point about Washington was made specifically in _response_ to an attempt to restrict acceptance of political qualifaction to include elected office and nothing else. I think you might have missed that context.

If you want to argue that prior elected experience is not the only qualification that should be considered for higher elected office, then you’re only supporting my point (while, ironically, simultaneously missing it). My enitire _point_ was that political qualifications should not be limited to elected experience.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/830 "2009-06-18T17:09:03Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> My god, an actual response!

Where the fuck have \*you \*been?

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> nobody was able to show that **Shayna** was full of shit,

She was very often shown to be filtered and off-topic, and unable to respond to inquiries with anything more than invective. That was pointed out to her, and to the rest of that contingent, many times, only to be replied to with even more invective. _And, amazingly it’s continuing today._

But I’ve said that before. Maybe you should just scroll up and reread, hmm?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/831 "2009-06-18T17:27:29Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> My point about Washington was made specifically in _response_ to an attempt to restrict acceptance of political qualifaction to include elected office and nothing else. I think you might have missed that context.

Got it fine - but making points with bad data doesn’t sit well with me - especially when you can’t be bothered to look things up beforehand or back down afterward.

But hey, your credibility. Make of it what you will.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/832 "2009-06-18T17:30:54Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> She was very often shown to be filtered and off-topic, and unable to respond to inquiries with anything more than invective. That was pointed out to her, and to the rest of that contingent, many times, only to be replied to with even more invective.

Well, since you seem to have a better memory than I, perhaps you can link to the threads in question? There were so many election threads that I can’t look through them all, and [the](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=456591) [ones](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=471523) I did glance through don’t show **Shayna** being refuted in any real way, only ignored. You’d think this whole discussion about Obama’s accomplishments and her linking to them would have been hashed out already.

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/833 "2009-06-18T17:31:08Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I have no interest in spoon-feeding you for the sake of your amusement, if that’s what you mean. If you were really interested, you’d have been at least following the primary-season threads in GD last year. But you didn’t, and you’re not, so there’s no reason to trust you’re in good faith with this request.

Hey, I read all those threads. [Guess](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9552160&postcount=30&highlight=good+faith) [what](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9556151&postcount=69&highlight=good+faith) [you](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9658075&postcount=17&highlight=good+faith) [did](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9658081&postcount=19&highlight=good+faith) [then](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9772638&postcount=96&highlight=good+faith), [too](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9494209&postcount=501&highlight=good+faith)!

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/834 "2009-06-18T17:34:41Z")

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> [@Algorithm](#):
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> Hey, I read all those threads. [Guess](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9552160&postcount=30&highlight=good+faith) [what](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9556151&postcount=69&highlight=good+faith) [you](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9658075&postcount=17&highlight=good+faith) [did](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9658081&postcount=19&highlight=good+faith) [then](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9772638&postcount=96&highlight=good+faith), [too](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9494209&postcount=501&highlight=good+faith)!

Very nice. You also managed to find [the thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9552160) I was trying to recall and couldn’t.

Honestly, I’m quite sure you need to be living in a different reality than our own to look at that thread and say **Shayna** could only respond to other posters with invective. I see tons of dismissive invective by our good friend, though. Perhaps he’s confusing himself with **Shayna**?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/835 "2009-06-18T17:46:05Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Got it fine - but making points with bad data doesn’t sit well with me

It wasn’t bad data. Washington had [del]no[/del] next to no elected experience before he was President. The whole point was that qualifications should include _more_ than elected experience. The fact that you keep trying to harp on this same point under the misapprehension that you’re somehow contradicting me only makes it appear like you don’t understand my point at all.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/836 "2009-06-18T17:47:02Z")

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I decided a long time ago that there was no constructive way to pay the slightest bit of attention to ElvisL1ves.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/837 "2009-06-18T18:36:05Z")

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The disturbing thing here is that Dio doesn’t… know… what the House of Burgesses is, and how its dissolution led directly to the American Revolution. (Look up the Raleigh Tavern some time.)

Nor does he know it was the first representative government in what became the USA. (The House of Assembly, the senior house, was held in Bermuda, which was part of Virginia Colony at one point.)

Nor does he know that Jefferson and Patrick Henry were members, it being more or less the highest self-government in the state.

It’s really hard to overstate the importance of that body for the creation of the Revolution.

Briefly, between 1759 and 1774, he did nothing _but_ politics. In the crucible that essentially created the backbone of the United States. Well enough that the other colonists chose _him_ as a delegate to the Continental Congress. Right up there with General Lee’s grandfather and Patrick Henry.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/838 "2009-06-18T18:37:44Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Sarah Palin is a cloaca.

I am so totally stealing this line. 🆒

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/839 "2009-06-18T18:47:49Z")

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How the hell did we get from A Rod shagging a Palin daughter to whether or not Dio ever heard of the House of Burgesses?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/840 "2009-06-18T19:05:01Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> How the hell did we get from A Rod shagging a Palin daughter to whether or not Dio ever heard of the House of Burgesses?

The Straight Dope moves in mysterious ways.

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