# Fuck David Letterman and all misogynistic leftists who support him on this

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287 "2009-06-10T01:51:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/121 "2009-06-10T20:15:20Z")

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> [@Katriona](#):
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> I remember two, although it’s possible that one wasn’t Limbaugh’s. I want to say the first was was certainly Limbaugh, and the second I’m not sure of.
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> In one case, a picture of a Bulldog was shown while mentioning Chelsea.
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> In the other, after talking about Socks, the White House Cat, they said something like, “Now let’s talk about the White House dog,” and displayed a picture of Chelsea.

Well, I just do not think that is comparable at all. Making fun of a person’s looks is just childish. Making fun of a a teenager’s looks is just cruel. In any case not funny. (And I roll my eyes if anyone thinks “Rush Limbaugh is a big, fat idiot” is funny or clever or anything worthwhile.)

Making fun of how well Sarah Palin’s abstinence mantra works by pointing out it did not work in her household seems to me a completely different thing.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/122 "2009-06-10T20:15:48Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> And frankly, you can call me a religious bigot if you want, but I don’t want anyone who seriously believes in a church that takes a “witch-hunter” seriously anywhere near either the White House or Congress.

Well, of course, Geraldine Ferraro’s religion wouldn’t do such a thing, right?

[Whoops.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcism)

Boggles my mind, the way these standards are whipped out when they are convenient and stowed away when they aren’t. Did you vote for Kerry or Bush in 2004, jayjay - either way you voted for a man who “seriously believes in a church” that takes exorcism seriously.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/123 "2009-06-10T20:19:46Z")

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> [@sqweels](#):
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> But if you’re a conservative, then you must think hypocrisy is a good thing.

Not really, but I respect it sometimes as the tribute vice pays to virtue, as Matthew Arnold said. And as such I’d rather have it around than have no virtue and just a lot of unalloyed vice.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/124 "2009-06-10T20:24:59Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Well, of course, Geraldine Ferraro’s religion wouldn’t do such a thing, right?
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> [Whoops.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcism)
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> Boggles my mind, the way these standards are whipped out when they are convenient and stowed away when they aren’t. Did you vote for Kerry or Bush in 2004, jayjay - either way you voted for a man who “seriously believes in a church” that takes exorcism seriously.

Sorry if I don’t live up to your sterling fair standards. The exorcism thing doesn’t bother me. It doesn’t even bother me that Bobby Jindal, a Republican, has been involved in one. It’s fairly rare and the church tends to keep them quiet exactly because it’s considered kind of old-fashioned and, well, crazy.

Palin’s church celebrates men like [Thomas Muthee](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Muthee), who hounded an old woman out of her home and her town for being a “witch” (or perhaps didn’t and only claimed he did). People like Muthee are direct and personal enemies of secularists. If people like Muthee and Palin “win”, then secularists, atheists, and mainstream Christians lose. These people consider themselves at war with the insufficiently Christian.

I personally think three presidents who gave lip service or more to Creationists, Dominionists, and just plain insane religionists are more than enough.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/125 "2009-06-10T20:39:45Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Palin’s church celebrates men like [Thomas Muthee](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Muthee), who hounded an old woman out of her home and her town for being a “witch” (or perhaps didn’t and only claimed he did). People like Muthee are direct and personal enemies of secularists. If people like Muthee and Palin “win”, then secularists, atheists, and mainstream Christians lose. These people consider themselves at war with the insufficiently Christian.

Does Palin consider herself a Pentacostal anymore? She attends another church across town which is just called a “Bible church”. Her bio lists her as a non-denominational Christian.

It is true that she was a Pentacostal until 2002 - but I was a Methodist until about that time. I sure can’t be considered one now.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/126 "2009-06-10T21:02:53Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Holy fucking shit! Is the devil giving free sleigh rides? I agree with **Rand Rover**.
> 
> I feel dirty.

Well, **Rand Rover’s** standard response to most complaints is (paraphrased) “This is a stupid complaint, and you’re stupid for making it.”

We differ only in the degree to which we find all complaints (and complainers) stupid.

This one clearly is.

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**Author:** ![LunarPlexus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LunarPlexus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LunarPlexus)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/127 "2009-06-10T21:34:01Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> It doesn’t matter. The chicken is underage. The road is much older. We should be outraged.

A joke that brings its own tar and feathers is going to save the RO crowd a LOT of time and energy.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/128 "2009-06-10T21:41:12Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> This is probably just the break the McCain campaign has been waiting for.

Jeezy Creezy. That damn near made me snort ice cream out of my nose.

I didn’t think the whole “Brisket” thing was funny though, but that was because I honestly thought that “Brisket” was really the name of one of Sarah Palin’s kids.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/129 "2009-06-10T22:24:31Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> Hey, you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Cuz Janet Reno’s her father!

Wow, we’re nearing 2010 and we still get a “But Clinton…!” comment. You are actually completely retarded, huh?

At least **ivylass** ’s limp-dicked “But Obama…!” was topical in a really pathetic way.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/130 "2009-06-10T23:03:42Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Not that I care, really, but I do agree that Dave is getting nasty in his old age. The only late night show I really like these days is Craig Ferguson’s, and that’s because he’s funny and seems to really like other people.
> 
> If I wanted to watch a pathetic recluse, I’d actually have some choice of family members - I wouldn’t need to turn on Dave’s show.

Ferguson’s monologue discussion of why he wouldn’t make fun of Britney Spears (post head-shaving breakdown) is classic, and shows a lot of real humanity in his actions.

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Anyway, we gotta take political sides on jokes told by late-night comedians now? Is that it?

Well dammit. I vote a split ticket most of the time, so what does that mean for my late-night show watching schedule? I’m so confused…

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/131 "2009-06-10T23:19:19Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Wow, we’re nearing 2010 and we still get a “But Clinton…!” comment. You are actually completely retarded, huh?  
> -Joe

I suspect you may have been whooshed.

Or I have been whooshed.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/132 "2009-06-10T23:25:32Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Not really, but I respect it sometimes as the tribute vice pays to virtue, as Matthew Arnold said. And as such I’d rather have it around than have no virtue and just a lot of unalloyed vice.

Clear as mud.

Let me restate: For a conservative to accuse anyone else of hypocrisy is meta-hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/133 "2009-06-11T00:21:00Z")

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So, hyper-hypocrisy?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/134 "2009-06-11T00:26:32Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> I suspect you may have been whooshed.
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> Or I have been whooshed.

If you have any familiarity with that particular poster’s history, 'tweren’t I who was whooshed.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/135 "2009-06-11T02:18:38Z")

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By the way, Letterman is, wisely, backing off of his, ahem, “joke.” At tonight’s taping, he apparently “clarified” what he meant without actually apologizing. It’s likely that Letterman’s writers were too dim to understand that Palin brought her 14-year-old daughter, Willow, to the game in question; not the older Bristol. From the LA Times:

_Excerpts from “The Late Show with David Letterman” June 10, 2009:  
“We were, as we often do, making jokes about people in the news and we made some jokes about Sarah Palin and her daughter, the 18-year-old girl, who is – her name is Bristol, that’s right, and so, then, now they’re upset with me…”  
“These are not jokes made about her 14-year-old daughter. I would never, never make jokes about raping or having sex of any description with a 14-year-old girl. I mean, look at my record. It has never happened. I don’t think it’s funny. I would never think it was funny. I wouldn’t put it in a joke…”  
“…Governor Palin, if you’re watching, I would like you to consider coming to New York City – you and Todd as my guests, or leave Todd at home – I’d love to have you on the show. It’d be exciting…”  
“All right, so there, I hope I’ve cleared part of this up. Am I guilty of poor taste? Yes. Did I suggest that it was okay for her 14-year-old daughter to be having promiscuous sex? No.”_

> **[Opinion: Aging man, 62, jokes about girl, 14 (Letterman on Willow Palin) update](https://www.latimes.com/archives/blogs/top-of-the-ticket/story/2009-06-10/opinion-aging-man-62-jokes-about-girl-14-letterman-on-willow-palin-update)**
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> This article was originally on a blog post platform and may be missing photos, graphics or links.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/136 "2009-06-11T02:57:01Z")

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It was pretty obvious from the beginning that he was talking about Bristol.

ETA I think it was a pretty funny joke.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/137 "2009-06-11T03:03:07Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> It was pretty obvious from the beginning that he was talking about Bristol.
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> ETA I think it was a pretty funny joke.

Bristol wasn’t at the game.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/138 "2009-06-11T03:03:49Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> “These are not jokes made about her 14-year-old daughter. I would never, never make jokes about raping or having sex of any description with a 14-year-old girl. I mean, look at my record. It has never happened. I don’t think it’s funny. I would never think it was funny. I wouldn’t put it in a joke…”

Well, that’s a lie. David Letterman used to make jokes about Michael Jackson and Catholic priests all the time.

He shouldn’t have apologized, though. It was a silly joke that only a few blow-hard Republicans misinterpreted (would there have been any outrage if Sarah Palin wasn’t Republican? I think not!) and it sets a bad precedent for the future. But, whatever…Letterman hasn’t been relevant for years anyway. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/139 "2009-06-11T03:05:35Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> Well, that’s a lie. David Letterman used to make jokes about Michael Jackson and Catholic priests all the time.

Well, Letterman _does_ specify he doesn’t tell jokes about 14-year-old _girls_!😃

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-david-letterman-and-all-misogynistic-leftists-who-support-him-on-this/499287/140 "2009-06-11T03:21:53Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> Bristol wasn’t at the game.

So?

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