# Fuck Daylight Savings **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 11, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441 "2012-03-11T03:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/1 "2012-03-11T03:24:14Z")
It is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/2 "2012-03-11T03:32:28Z")
I’ve been saying for a while now; Either pick DST or standard and stick with it. Stupid farmers! :mad: (Just kidding) ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/3 "2012-03-11T03:32:42Z")
do you run a clock shop? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/4 "2012-03-11T03:35:37Z")
Thought it was meant so kids didn’t have to wander around in the dark before or after school, that’s cool, why not just change the schools hours. ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/5 "2012-03-11T03:47:09Z")
I hate it too. I lived in Indiana for twenty years before they passed it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/6 "2012-03-11T03:48:42Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > It is stupid. Indeed, it fellates with great alacrity. Especially since one has the lights and heat on in the office anyway. ---
**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/7 "2012-03-11T03:52:30Z")
It is great, an extra hour of usable sunlight. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/8 "2012-03-11T03:56:30Z")
Daylight Savings Time is ridiculous and asinine. If it’s to be used at all, it should only be between the equinoxes. Standard Time lasts three months now. What’s “Standard” about that? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/9 "2012-03-11T03:58:46Z")
> [@sitchensis](#): > > It is great, an extra hour of usable sunlight. What do you use it for in March and November? ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/10 "2012-03-11T04:09:14Z")
I’ve heard that accidents increase after switches which negates any effect on school children. [There have been a few correlations too](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11152980). ---
**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/11 "2012-03-11T04:15:51Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > What do you use it for in March and November? Having an hour of sunlight when I’m awake and not at work. What do you use timezones for? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/12 "2012-03-11T04:41:34Z")
> [@sitchensis](#): > > Having an hour of sunlight when I’m awake and not at work. Ah. Well, that’s what getting up early is for. > [@](#): > > What do you use timezones for? Ah. You’re an idiot, I see. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/13 "2012-03-11T05:12:32Z")
Whiners. At least your schedule relative to your clock doesn’t change. I live and work in Arizona which doesn’t observe DST, but my office’s deadlines operate off Central Time. When DST isn’t in effect, 8 am Central is 7 am Arizona time. When DST is in effect, 8 am Central is 6 am Arizona. We can’t actually change our clocks since, y’know, we have Arizona lives, so that means instead of changing our clocks twice a year we have to adjust our schedules to one hour earlier. Not only do we have to get up when the clock says 4:00 instead of 5:00, it plays merry hell with our non-work schedules since everyone else is happily rolling along on their own Arizona schedules. Compared to what the rest of the nation has to put up with, it’s vicious. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/14 "2012-03-11T05:17:41Z")
It’s actually Daylight _Saving_ Time, not Daylight Savings. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/15 "2012-03-11T05:21:00Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > It’s actually Daylight _Saving_ Time, not Daylight Savings. Gosh, thanks. I shall immediately reconsider my position now that I know that. ---
**Author:** ![Lacunae\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lacunae\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lacunae_Matata)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/16 "2012-03-11T05:27:52Z")
Poor Mr. Matata gets hit on both ends of the time change: he’s on day shift now, and loses an hour of sleep, and he’ll be on nights when the clocks fall back, and has to work the extra hour. (Significant when his department works 12-hour shifts!) When I’ve worked places that had 24-hour staffing, each shift divided the time - so an eight hour shift would gain or lose 20 minutes, or 30 for 12-hour shifts. Or, as a manager, I’d take the extra hour so that my overnight staff wasn’t exhausted. But yeah, the practical reasons for the time change aren’t very applicable now, so DST seems silly and anachronistic … ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/17 "2012-03-11T05:51:38Z")
Totally agree. In the UK, being so far north it hardly makes any difference anyway: you get up and go to school/work in the dark and you come home in the dark, DST or not. From memory they did an experiment where they didn’t have it for a while and everyone loved it, but there was a rise in pre-school accidents I believe and it was reintroduced. However this was done when kids actually walked to school rather than got driven in SUVs. I think it’s time to revisit it. It’s something to do with lobbying from Scottish farmers or some shit, which makes even less sense as during the winter their daytime only lasts twelve seconds. The other thing is… if it’s to do with farmers, why don’t the farmers just adjust the time they do stuff? The only good thing about it is the relief everyone feels when it ends. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/18 "2012-03-11T05:57:48Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Whiners. At least your schedule relative to your clock doesn’t change. > > I live and work in Arizona which doesn’t observe DST, but my office’s deadlines operate off Central Time. Yeah, but your whole problem is rooted in the fact that, in this case, Arizona is right and everybody else is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/19 "2012-03-11T06:08:24Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Yeah, but your whole problem is rooted in the fact that, in this case, Arizona is right and everybody else is wrong. Pretty much. Up until I started working at this office, I loved Arizona time. It’s that blasted Central Time that’s the problem. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/20 "2012-03-11T06:16:01Z")
> [@sitchensis](#): > > It is great, an extra hour of usable sunlight. The “extra” hour you “gain” at one end of the day you just lose at the other–people have to leave their lights on later into the morning. No one is “saving” any light, especially now that so many businesses today operate 24 hours a day. DST only made sense in a society where everything strictly ran by bankers’ hours. (And that’s why it has little to do with farmers, who operate by the sun, not the clock, and have never had much reason to be overly concerned about the time of day, except possibly for deliveries.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441.md?page=2)