# Fuck Daylight Savings **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 11, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441 "2012-03-11T03:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/21 "2012-03-11T07:28:59Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Stupid farmers! :mad: (Just kidding) Where does the odd notion that farmers support DST originate? Farmers generally hate it. People working in cities can take advantage of later sunlight during warmer months without having to post separate hours on the doors of offices and shops and without negotiating special hours in labor contracts. Farmers still have to go out to feed and milk animals at the same solar time, regardless, but now, some of them have to adjust their chores to match the “new” times that various purchasers will pick up their fresh milk or eggs. Who started the weird claim that farmers like DST? ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/22 "2012-03-11T07:33:40Z")
[Cecil](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1079/whats-the-purpose-of-daylight-saving-time). ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/23 "2012-03-11T09:05:36Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Where does the odd notion that farmers support DST originate? > > Farmers generally hate it. > > People working in cities can take advantage of later sunlight during warmer months without having to post separate hours on the doors of offices and shops and without negotiating special hours in labor contracts. Farmers still have to go out to feed and milk animals at the same solar time, regardless, but now, some of them have to adjust their chores to match the “new” times that various purchasers will pick up their fresh milk or eggs. > > Who started the weird claim that farmers like DST? I wasn’t serious about bashing farmers, but I did think that DST was for them. Doing some Googling, it’s apparently a myth. Guess you learn something new every day. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/24 "2012-03-11T09:20:15Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > The “extra” hour you “gain” at one end of the day you just lose at the other OMG REALLY? I thought my clock could move the sun. Seriously, everybody knows that. It doesn’t need to be self-righteously pointed out every time DST is discussed. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/25 "2012-03-11T09:54:04Z")
Actually, fuck Standard Time. You Americans are so lucky to have just three months of it. I don’t need sunlight at the beginning of the day, when I’m bringing the kid to school and getting ready for work. I need it at the end, when I want to go to the beach or for a walk down the boulevard. If the sun starts setting before 7 PM, I feel robbed. ---
**Author:** ![Valerieblaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Valerieblaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valerieblaise)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/26 "2012-03-11T10:00:47Z")
I get so happy when it starts staying light later into the evening. It means summer’s coming and winter’s going and yay!!! I guess I’m saying I disagree with many people in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/27 "2012-03-11T10:11:10Z")
> [@Valerieblaise](#): > > I get so happy when it starts staying light later into the evening. It means summer’s coming and winter’s going and yay!!! > > I guess I’m saying I disagree with many people in this thread. Nailed it. Now Standard time is the one that needs to go get shot and die. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/28 "2012-03-11T10:21:21Z")
I have never really understood the bitching about DSL, it seems such a minor thing, but I do have two solutions to the problem. A) Correct the Earth’s tilt this way we have equal length day & night. This is my preferred method. or B) Split the difference: Spring forward half an hour, then leave it that way. ETA: Why is the time stamp on my post off by 2 hours? It is now 3:23 am. Doesn’t the boards update automatically? ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/29 "2012-03-11T10:30:03Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > ETA: Why is the time stamp on my post off by 2 hours? It is now 3:23 am. Doesn’t the boards update automatically? Never mind, it fixed itself after I closed the browser and reopen it. ---
**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/30 "2012-03-11T10:48:34Z")
I wake up early, and I’d rather have the sun rising before 6 a.m. I wish they’d go back tolast-weekend-in-April till last-weekend-in-October. Six months on and six months off, so it was symmetrical, and for a while you’d get sunrises as early as 5:15! ---
**Author:** ![freckafree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freckafree/32/3050_2.png) [@freckafree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freckafree)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/31 "2012-03-11T12:28:45Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Thought it was meant so kids didn’t have to wander around in the dark before or after school, that’s cool, why not just change the schools hours. This makes no freakin’ sense. One of the things I hate about DST is that we were juuuuuust starting to get enough daylight that I was finishing my morning run in a little bit of light and it was full light by the time my son left for school. Now we’re back to pitch blackness for another month. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/32 "2012-03-11T12:43:08Z")
Get rid of the seasonal time change. Get rid of leap seconds. Get rid of time zones and get rid of leap days. Use 24-hour time. If you really, really need to talk about the position of the sun, we have words like “morning” and “summer”. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/33 "2012-03-11T12:44:39Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Pretty much. Up until I started working at this office, I loved Arizona time. It’s that blasted Central Time that’s the problem. How do you feel about Tulsa Time? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/34 "2012-03-11T13:03:03Z")
Where’s Grandpa Jones [when we need him](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY8Sf4rbutU)? Oh, right, he’s dead. Wore himself out resetting his clocks. Time to get rid of Standard Time. More trouble than it’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/35 "2012-03-11T13:05:03Z")
Between setting the clocks ahead before bed last night and waking up this morning, I forgot entirely about DST. So I woke up about an hour ago all bummed out because, damn it, it’s going to be a cloudy, shitty day and it’s probably going to snow, like, three feet and I fucking hate MN and blahblah. Crabby. But no, it just wasn’t daytime yet. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/36 "2012-03-11T13:09:02Z")
With bank interest rates these days, I end up putting my sunlight into Daylight Checking Times ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/37 "2012-03-11T13:09:55Z")
I was in Tasmania once and discussing the weather with a taxi driver. I came from Qld which is more tropical whereas Tasmania is far cooler. The taxi driver assured me that Tasmania had more sunlight as they had daylight saving whereas Qld didn’t. I realised it was an argument I could never hope to win. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/38 "2012-03-11T13:46:30Z")
There was an hour or two this morning that my husband had pencilled in for going through all our old, overflowing files and shredding the stuff we no longer need. This is a chore we both despise. Since we have somewhere an hour’s drive away to be right after lunch, and since we both forgot about the time change, this task is likely no longer to happen today. Yay DST! ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/39 "2012-03-11T13:48:26Z")
I like it. So there. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/40 "2012-03-11T14:20:10Z")
Given the increasingly interconnected networks of computers and other electronic devices (like there’s a difference anymore) which all have to stay synchronized, I think changing the clocks is an idea whose time has gone. One of these years, we should move the clocks forward or backward a half hour and leave them there for good. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441.md?page=3)