# Fuck Daylight Savings **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 11, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441 "2012-03-11T03:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Engineer\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9fc29f/32.png) [@Engineer\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Engineer_Dude)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/81 "2012-03-12T14:57:51Z")
> [@Sattua](#): > > I hate it too. I lived in Indiana for twenty years before they passed it. I went to college in Indiana. First 3 years it was standard (“slow”) time all the time and then the last year they passed it. Freshman year, I had a student ticket to all the football games. I didn’t realize that the “12:30” that was on the schedule was for everyone else in the U.S. (on DST) and not for the Indiana people. As a result, I showed up for the game 12:30 Indiana time (or 1:30 EST), when I should have showed up 11:30 Indiana time. Grrr. :mad: On the other hand, the fall (of the last year of college after Indiana passed it) semester of college my friends and I did get an extra hour of drinking time. The bars close in Indiana at 3:00 am. Which means that if you go to the bars at, say 11:00 PM, you get 5 hours since the change is from 2:00 am to 1:00 am. [Quote=DianaG] It should be DST all the time, and anyone who says otherwise must be one of those Morning People. Fuck them. [/QUOTE] I’d actually prefer that we stay on standard time all the time precisely because I’m not a morning person. In early March (on standard time), there’s actually daylight early when I get up for work. Then the hour change hits and it’s more difficult to get up when it’s dark. The extra hour later in the day then makes it doubly difficult because it hasn’t been dark for as long and there’s less of a feeling that you need to get to bed. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/82 "2012-03-12T15:35:40Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Keep throwing into the next tee box, huh? Don’t worry, kid. We all get past it eventually. All 17 of you? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/83 "2012-03-12T15:54:45Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Just joining in the hate. Whoa, whoa whoa. The hate is going both ways now. Which side are you hating for? Or are you just joining in the hate, generally, in a Redjack sort of way. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/84 "2012-03-12T15:55:35Z")
See, this is the problemwith America. We try to solve everything at once and drive people crazy making them have to move the whole hour. We should have started investing Daylight into a 401(k) years ago, and now we could be tanning off of the interest. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/85 "2012-03-12T15:58:31Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > No, we live in the habitable portion of this planet. It’s not my fault that for some reason you chose to live in the frigid northern wastes among the snarks and grumpkins. Tell you what, Alessan. Why don’t you haul your ass up here and spend a cold sunless morning on this fucking wall of ice before you bitch and moan about DST. I swear, the next grumpkin or snark that I see gets a free pass through the wall so long as they promise to stop by your house first. (I didn’t choose to live up here. I mean when the choice is execution or heading north there really isn’t a choice.) ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/86 "2012-03-12T16:02:44Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Ah. Well, that’s what getting up early is for. . . Meh. Fuck that noise. I love having the extra time after work to take a walk, putter around the garden, etc. I’m not in the mood for any of that first thing in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/87 "2012-03-12T16:47:21Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > I’ve been saying for a while now; Either pick DST or standard and stick with it. > > Stupid farmers! :mad: (Just kidding) Amen! I hate hate HATE having to change all my clocks twice a year. The supposed benefits of DST have never struck me as particularly compelling, either. We seem to be moving in the direction of lengthening the amount of time we spend on DST (we’re already at the point where we spend most of the year on it) so I say just put us on DST year-round and forget about going back to “standard” time. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/88 "2012-03-12T16:55:29Z")
There’s also the problem of working in the mornings. Sure, when you spring ahead you work one hour less, but heaven help you if you’re working and have to fall back an hour. Thankfully I never worked early mornings during a time change, but at one company I use to work for that ran 24/7 I felt bad for those who did. Especially if they had a 10 or 12 hour work day. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/89 "2012-03-12T16:57:32Z")
Without daylight saving time here, the fucking sun would be rising at 4:14 in the morning in June, and setting at 7:55 P.M. I much prefer 5:14 to 8:55. I can also get 9 holes in after work for a few months longer than standard time. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/90 "2012-03-12T17:05:37Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > There’s also the problem of working in the mornings. Sure, when you spring ahead you work one hour less, but heaven help you if you’re working and have to fall back an hour. > > Thankfully I never worked early mornings during a time change, but at one company I use to work for that ran 24/7 I felt bad for those who did. Especially if they had a 10 or 12 hour work day. Funny story about that. Well, maybe an amusing tale. Diverting anecdote? Anyway, in my earlier years I worked at several radio stations, and oftentimes that would include the overnight shift. That made the change into and out of DST interesting. You see, each hour of programming had a page containing the commercial spots slated to run in the breaks during that hour. In the spring, at 2 am you’d turn the clock forward to 3 am … which meant that 2 am page had nowhere to go, as if it was erased from existence! Of course, since it’s 2 freakin’ a.m., there generally weren’t more than one or two spots actually sold in that hour, so it wasn’t a big deal to play an extra spot in the hour before or after. But in the fall … at 2 am you turn the clocks back to repeat the 1 am hour … and there weren’t any ads to play then at all! An entire hour, commercial free! It would have been sweet, if anyone was actually listening at that time of day … ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/91 "2012-03-12T17:09:04Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > But in the fall … at 2 am you turn the clocks back to repeat the 1 am hour … and there weren’t any ads to play then at all! An entire hour, commercial free! It would have been sweet, if anyone was actually listening at that time of day … I thought you were going to say that you had to re-run all of the 1:00am commercials all over again. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/92 "2012-03-12T17:13:22Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > All 17 of you? > > 😛 Fore! _sends 175 gram [Destroyer](http://www.discland.com/images/P/02_Champion_Destroyer.jpg) whistling toward **Lab** ’s head._ ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/93 "2012-03-12T17:15:37Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > I don’t give a damn if it doesn’t get light until noon if I can have some daylight in the evening after I get home from work. This, this, a thousand times this. All I’m doing in the morning is dragging my ass out of bed, getting dressed, and driving to work. I don’t give a rat’s ass whether it’s dark or light when I do this. Then, I’m stuck indoors all day long. It’s when I’m released from my cubicle prison that _ **my** _ day begins, and _that’s_ when I want my daylight, dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/94 "2012-03-12T17:24:15Z")
The main problem with daylight saving is that it doesn’t go far enough. We need to rearrange our calendar to remove the excessively cold days in December, January and February and also get rid of the excessively hot days in July and August. We will just add them to April, May, September and October so that everyone can enjoy those months some more. I figure if we make all of those months 36 days long, people will have more recreation time, plus we will save tons of money on heating and cooling to boot. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/95 "2012-03-12T17:30:26Z")
I say fuck standard time. Daylight time rocks. > [@Bosstone](#): > > I live and work in Arizona which doesn’t observe DST, but my office’s deadlines operate off Central Time. Sounds like both Arizona and your employer are idiots. > [@Frank](#): > > Ah. Well, that’s what getting up early is for. An extra hour before work is pointless. I want that hour combined with all the other hours after work that are mine. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/96 "2012-03-12T17:48:06Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > I think you misread Greg’s comment. His farmer friend was happier on Standard time. It seems like you’ve both missed something, but mostly you. My point was that, in my friend’s experience, the time change was important to farmers. That argues against the position that we should just stay on DST the whole year round. For the people arguing that we should be on standard time the whole year round, you are raving lunatics, and arguing against you is pointless. It’d be like trying to convince someone that bathing in water is better than fire. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/97 "2012-03-12T18:54:38Z")
Chief Washakie of the Shoshone tribe said “the white man would cut the end off of a blanket, sew it onto the other end, and tell us it is longer.” ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/98 "2012-03-12T18:57:15Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > Chief Washakie of the Shoshone tribe said “the white man would cut the end off of a blanket, sew it onto the other end, and tell us it is longer.” This white man already read such sentiments farther up the page. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/99 "2012-03-12T19:02:30Z")
I don’t mind falling back, but the spring forward really sucks. It takes me several days to get adjusted to this springtime nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/100 "2012-03-12T19:16:03Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > This white man already read such sentiments farther up the page. I never before suspected Oliphant stole an idea. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441.md?page=6)