# Fuck Daylight Savings **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 11, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441 "2012-03-11T03:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Sam\_I\_Am](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@Sam\_I\_Am](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_I_Am)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/101 "2012-03-12T19:29:58Z")
I think we should stop moving the damn clocks one way or another, and make 7-3 the new 9-5. More people would get daylight after work that way. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/102 "2012-03-12T19:40:45Z")
My stupid dog, who seems to rise with the sun, was getting up earlier and earlier. This is the first morning in weeks I could sleep until the alarm went off, so hurray for DST. It is good to drive home in the daylight again. And forget about the schoolkids - no parents seem to let their precious little snowflakes walk anymore, so it doesn’t matter. As for not having sunset changes - I used to live a few degrees from the equator, where the sun set right at 6 pm every night. The bad news is that there was no twilight. My brother threw a football to me in the daylight and it was dark by the time I caught it. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/103 "2012-03-12T20:06:48Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > As for not having sunset changes - I used to live a few degrees from the equator, where the sun set right at 6 pm every night. The bad news is that there was no twilight. My brother threw a football to me in the daylight and it was dark by the time I caught it. That’s a mighty strange football. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/104 "2012-03-12T20:09:13Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > Funny story about that. Well, maybe an amusing tale. Diverting anecdote? Anyway, in my earlier years I worked at several radio stations, and oftentimes that would include the overnight shift. That made the change into and out of DST interesting. You see, each hour of programming had a page containing the commercial spots slated to run in the breaks during that hour. In the spring, at 2 am you’d turn the clock forward to 3 am … which meant that 2 am page had nowhere to go, as if it was erased from existence! Of course, since it’s 2 freakin’ a.m., there generally weren’t more than one or two spots actually sold in that hour, so it wasn’t a big deal to play an extra spot in the hour before or after. > > But in the fall … at 2 am you turn the clocks back to repeat the 1 am hour … and there weren’t any ads to play then at all! An entire hour, commercial free! It would have been sweet, if anyone was actually listening at that time of day … One spring, I received a trouble ticket - a mission critical job hadn’t run on Sunday. The answer, of course, was that it was scheduled to run at 2:30 am, and there wasn’t a 2:30 am that day. There were similar issues in the fall, where jobs scheduled for 1:30 am would run twice. Note that I wasn’t in charge of scheduling - I’d learned to never schedule once a day jobs between 1-3 am. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/105 "2012-03-13T16:23:21Z")
I actually don’t give a shit about whether it’s light in the morning or the evening. It’s just all the fucking about with clocks twice a year, and the attendant disaster and inconvenience that inevitably ensue. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/106 "2012-03-13T16:32:19Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > That’s a mighty strange football. Night didn’t just fall there, it went in at 10 g acceleration. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/107 "2012-03-14T11:06:29Z")
Fuck people that are too stupid / lazy to deal with changing clocks twice a year. It’s not rocket science. I want my late summer evenings of daylight after work, you’ll pry that out of my cold dead hands thanks very much. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/108 "2012-03-14T12:11:26Z")
The funny thing is, the only clock I have to change is my watch. All the other clocks I use - on my phone, on my computers, on my converter boxes - seem to do just fine on their own. And frankly, my watch is largely decorative. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/109 "2012-03-14T14:37:49Z")
I like it, but the change is such a jolt. Nowadays I just move my clock ten minutes each month. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/110 "2012-03-14T21:04:51Z")
I wouldn’t mind daylight savings time if it was shorter. It doesn’t use any less energy if you have to turn the light on to see when you wake up, and I hate getting up before sunrise. Make it such that the sun rises no later than 6:00 at the middle part of the country (where I happen to live :)) Say May1 to October 1. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/111 "2012-03-14T23:25:21Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > I like it, but the change is such a jolt. Nowadays I just move my clock ten minutes each month. Or as he is more commonly known, the late Tom Tildrum. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/112 "2012-03-15T04:59:15Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Who started the weird claim that farmers like DST? I don’t know. It’s not like it makes the day any longer, as if you can make a rope longer by cutting off one end and tying it on the other. My dad was a farmer and he hated it because it meant that the parts store (we had a pos Case combine) would close an hour earlier than usual according to solar time, the only clock farmers care about. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/113 "2012-03-15T05:27:32Z")
Keep it at DST FOR GOOD! What is the matter with people? Let’s all have a great fucking day by waking up in the dark and going home in the dark for 5 months a year. OOOOH, BOY! Sounds like a fucking gulag. That’s if you have normal hours for work. And if you work at night, even better! You’ve got more day to start with. ---
**Author:** ![Carnacki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Carnacki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnacki)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/114 "2012-03-15T05:50:49Z")
I vote we tidally lock the earth with the sun, and let the people who like daylight live on one side, and the vampires live on the other. Me, I’m going to live in a rotating house on the terminator…hmm, that’s a lot of work, moving and then building a rotating house. Scratch this idea. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/115 "2012-03-15T10:48:15Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > I don’t know. It’s not like it makes the day any longer, as if you can make a rope longer by cutting off one end and tying it on the other. Let’s say you have a rope, and it’s 16 units long. You hold the rope at an arbitrary point and realize you want to have more rope on one side, let’s call that the “evening” side, what’s a person to do? I can’t make more rope, it’s a conundrum. Wait, I can move my hand a little bit, and by magic, more rope appears on the side I give a crap about. Sure, there’s less rope on the other side, but who gives a shit about having a 4:30am sunrise anyway? ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/116 "2012-03-15T17:06:30Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I wouldn’t mind daylight savings time if it was shorter. It doesn’t use any less energy if you have to turn the light on to see when you wake up, and I hate getting up before sunrise. Make it such that the sun rises no later than 6:00 at the middle part of the country (where I happen to live :)) Say May1 to October 1. With the advent of the light-activated switch, in combination with modern day business hours being much more expanded than 100 years ago, there’s not much to gain from changing things either way, other than that some people just prefer it one way or the other. Personally, I just appreciate that the daylight hours change at all. When I lived by the equator, the lack of change was a little unnerving, after a while. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/117 "2012-03-15T17:57:11Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Let’s say you have a rope, and it’s 16 units long. You hold the rope at an arbitrary point and realize you want to have more rope on one side, let’s call that the “evening” side, what’s a person to do? I can’t make more rope, it’s a conundrum. Wait, I can move my hand a little bit, and by magic, more rope appears on the side I give a crap about. Sure, there’s less rope on the other side, but who gives a shit about having a 4:30am sunrise anyway? All Daylight Saving Time does is make everyone get up an hour earlier which you were already free to do. It’s silly. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/118 "2012-03-15T18:02:05Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > All Daylight Saving Time does is make everyone get up an hour earlier which you were already free to do. It’s silly. Some of us are not free to work from 7:00 - 3:00. Some of us don’t want our kids going to school in the pitch blackness of night. Some of us like to spend time outside in the evening during the summer with daylight. It’s magnificent. ETA: I have a feeling the closer one lives to the equator, the less important the merits of daylight saving time become. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/119 "2012-03-15T18:04:55Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > All Daylight Saving Time does is make everyone get up an hour earlier which you were already free to do. It’s silly. We are not free to change our work or school hours depending on the time of sunrise. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441/120 "2012-03-15T18:25:40Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > We are not free to change our work or school hours depending on the time of sunrise. You can still get an hour earlier and go for a walk or whatever without forcing everyone to adopt to your schedule, which is what this is really all about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-daylight-savings/615441.md?page=7)