# Fuck Disney - check this out, another reason to hate. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2001, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875 "2001-06-23T09:20:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2001, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/41 "2001-06-24T23:59:19Z")
> [@](#): > > You say that Disney did not copy a fair amount from Nadia, but your absolutely wrong. Except this has already proven to be so. Or have you completely ignored the posts that did so (as I suspect you did) simply because you don’t want acknowledge that you’re wrong? Let’s see… **squishbone** : 0 **SDMB** : 2 SCORE!! ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/42 "2001-06-25T00:03:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wishbone \* > \*\*Tengu, > > please don’t be upset that I have made you feel stupid for having tried, quite valiantly(ha), to justify the actions of the entire Disney Animation Support Team, including producers, writers, animators, et al.\*\* You really ARE a fucking moron, aren’t you? You haven’t made me feel stupid, Quasimodo. You make me look and feel like Albert Fucking Einstein in comparison to your sub-literate, paranoid-delusional, IQ-approximately-half-that-of-a-rotten-grapefruit self. Hystrionics don’t make your paranoid, counter-reality, fact-deficient delusions, which bear about half as much resemblance to reality as Atlantis itself does, true. Get your head out of your ass, and actually observe this thing known as the real world. It’s much more fun than the deep dark recesses of your own obsessions. Oh, and BTW, Nadia’s rights are owned by ADVFilms, who picked them up from Streamline/Orion about 3 years ago, you utter twit. They’ve never even seen Disney’s hands. Maybe **you** should work for the Tobacco Companies. You’ve got the required desire to spout lies, half-truths and utterly irrelevant babble, and to hide or utterly ignore established and utterly obvious facts. Too bad you have no ability to do so effectively. (And aside to Arden’s Ranger - if you liked Warriors of the Wind, wait until Disney finally gets around to releasing the translation of Nausica of the Valley of Wind, the Miyazaki work that it was edited down from (which resulted in Miyazaki refusing to allow any of his works to be translated again for almost 2 decades).) ---
**Author:** ![Sultan\_Kinkari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Sultan\_Kinkari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sultan_Kinkari)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/43 "2001-06-25T00:06:43Z")
After searching Google, I found that there is, in fact, a controversy regarding the two films. I was not able to conclude that there was a lawsuit already filed by the _Nadia_ producers, but it I would not be surprised if you were to soon hear something about. In the few articles I read where the Atlantis producers were asked about the similarities, they were reported to have said something to the effect of, “Why, yes, they do bear a slight resemblance, don’t they? Huh…” Eutychus55, able to find an actual report that Disney had bought the rights to _Nadia_. I never said it was true, though either, only suspected. The more I read, the more I am learning that it may have been an unauthorized “reproduction”. Here are some ideas of what might happen, or has happened already: 1. It will be swept under the rug and we will never hear anything of it. 2. It will be swept under the rug with a hefty out of court settlement paid by Disney and we will never hear anything of it again, nor will we hear of the settlement. 3. The matters will be taken to court and the producers will win a hefty settlement. This is highly unlikely because Disney will pay whatever is necessary to maintain their wholesome image. 4. Disney initially attemped to by the rights before production but were denied and decided to proceed with production anyway. Then Disney was threatened with a lawsuit and they paid a hefty “shut-up” settlement My real theory is that the original storyboard writers slacked off on their character sketches until the final approval meeting, so they whipped the characters out(plagairizing Nadia)at the last minute and brought them to the meeting. The producers loved it and told them to go ahead, and the storyboard writers winced in pain as they knew they were going to be in serious trouble. They never said anything to the boys upstairs and now management is facing some heat, and the weight of the world is on the shoulders of the lazy storyboard writers. Just a theory. Peace! ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/44 "2001-06-25T00:10:51Z")
**Wishbone,** I’m going to agree with you. Absolutely, completely, I will believe without any evidence supporting you, that Disney paid the creators of Nadia off beforehand to avoid legal complications afterwards. For, you see, this makes things so much simpler. Disney no longer plagurized anything. They were given permission by Nadia to do exactly what they did. So, really, your hatred and anger should properly be directed towards Nadia, and amime in general, for giving away their originality for monetary gain. And **monster** , wouldn’t that be “game over”? ---
**Author:** ![Sultan\_Kinkari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Sultan\_Kinkari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sultan_Kinkari)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/45 "2001-06-25T00:25:44Z")
Enderw24, I have lightly kicked myself for having posted the word “hate” in my original thread, because it gives people the idea that I posess some animosity torward Disney. That is my fault. But at that time I had not yet come to the conclusion that there must have been some sort of monetary agreement between Disney and Electra(producers of Nadia). I disapprove of Electra for selling the rights to Nadia(if they have) and I disapprove of Disney for not coming up with something creative on their own. So Enderw24, I do still harbor bad feelings toward Disney, even though it is a reproduction, rather than plagerising, and because the line at Space Mountain is always too damn long. And because they gave Brittney Spears and Justin Timberlake their big break. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/46 "2001-06-25T00:40:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wishbone \* > **Enderw24, I have lightly kicked myself for having posted the word “hate” in my original thread, because it gives people the idea that I posess some animosity torward Disney. That is my fault. But at that time I had not yet come to the conclusion that there must have been some sort of monetary agreement between Disney and Electra(producers of Nadia).** OK, I had to read this 3 times to convince myself you’d actually said it. Electra’s **a character in** Nadia. The producers of Nadia are Gainax Studios. Once I could right off as a brain fart. Twice is pure ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Medea\_s\_Child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Medea\_s\_Child](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Medea_s_Child)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/47 "2001-06-25T01:11:28Z")
I think Disney should re-do any fairy tale/myth/legend/diary entry they want to. About every other movie they come up with great cheesy music. I love cheesy musicals. Where’s my check with the mouse ears? It doesn’t even need to be signed by the big guy with the white gloves himself, just have lots of zeros with a suitable non zero number in front. There are not all that many original plot lines in existance. If people can remake tham every few years and new people can laugh/smile/cry/learn from them, all is well. And wishbone, you missed an option. 1. The people of Nadia don’t give a damn that Disney ripped off of Verne too. Children see the disney movie and whine at their parents to buy related toys. On second thought, is that what this is all about? If you’re this upset about it, _I’ll_ buy you the Atlantis Happy Meal. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/48 "2001-06-25T02:58:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > **PS: One sentence summary of 95% of all anime: Multi-tentacled monster blows up city.** And then tries to peek up schoolgirls’ skirts. Seriously, for those of you who think that Japanese Anime is repetitious and unoriginal, you should see the stuff that _doesn’t_ get exported. It’s like Hanna-Barbera with an underwear fetish sometimes. –sublight. ---
**Author:** ![Pyrrho12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b2d939/32.png) [@Pyrrho12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pyrrho12)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/49 "2001-06-25T03:10:09Z")
Wow. That was a particularly brilliant display of paranoid rambling there, **WB**. I feel suddenly compelled to ask what your feelings on the subject of circumcision are… ---
**Author:** ![Sultan\_Kinkari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Sultan\_Kinkari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sultan_Kinkari)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/50 "2001-06-25T03:28:45Z")
Pyrhho12, Circumcision. I sometimes sing in the shower, to the tunes of my favorite uncircumcised musician. His name is Bob Marley. His foreskin is not what I am thinking about in the shower. Any other requests, prophecies, or conclusions, oh psychic one? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/51 "2001-06-25T03:45:48Z")
Gotta love the sound of a woosh in the morning… Especially when the gag is so transparent that even if the mark doesn’t get it, it should be obvious that there’s a gag there. But then, it should be clear that that’s expecting WAAAAAY too much for Mr Plaigerism-Just-Needs-The-Same-Location. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/52 "2001-06-25T04:37:10Z")
Hey, Ol’ Squish… > [@](#): > > After searching Google, I found that there is, in fact, a controversy regarding the two films. So? There’s a controversy regarding whether or not man landed on the Moon. Controversy does not equal truth, you redefition of the word “idiot”. > [@](#): > > I was not able to conclude that there was a lawsuit already filed by the Nadia producers, but it I would not be surprised if you were to soon hear something about. Why would you make such a moronic assumption, considering _Disney committed no wrong_?!? > [@](#): > > In the few articles I read where the Atlantis producers were asked about the similarities, they were reported to have said something to the effect of, “Why, yes, they do bear a slight resemblance, don’t they? Huh…” Maybe that’s because they didn’t rip off _Nadia_. Has your Mulder-wannabe mind failed to consider that possibility? Squish’ems, you haven’t posted a single fucking fact in this entire thread. Everything you’ve brought to the table has been pure speculation. I suspect that there’s another reason why you hate Disney. What’s the matter? Were you raped by a mouse when you were young? Or perhaps your parents were killed by a duck in a sailor suit? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/53 "2001-06-25T07:20:16Z")
\ **DIS-NEY RULES! JA-PAN SUCKS! DIS-NEY RULES! JA-PAN SUCKS!** Well, I think I’ve made _my_ case rather convincingly. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/54 "2001-06-25T07:50:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*\ > > **DIS-NEY RULES! JA-PAN SUCKS! DIS-NEY RULES! JA-PAN SUCKS!** > > Well, I think I’ve made _my_ case rather convincingly. > \*\* Well, at least more convincingly than the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/55 "2001-06-25T12:22:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tengu \* > \*\*(And aside to Arden’s Ranger - if you liked Warriors of the Wind, wait until Disney finally gets around to releasing the translation of Nausica of the Valley of Wind, the Miyazaki work that it was edited down from (which resulted in Miyazaki refusing to allow any of his works to be translated again for almost 2 decades).) > \*\* Thanks! I’ll keep an eye out for it at the game shop. My kids will be happy to hear that as well. They love _Warriors of the Wind_. ---
**Author:** ![Sultan\_Kinkari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Sultan\_Kinkari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sultan_Kinkari)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/56 "2001-06-25T20:44:45Z")
As some of you may know, berrating an ill-responsive and ignorant idiot reflects that same idiocy onto yourself. Surely it is both a waste of time and aproductive, you should know that! Hook, line, and sinker…yeah I know, but my heart was never in the discussion from the get-go, and my recources were a bit scant due to the limited time alloted to each “inmate” here at the hospital. My sincerest apologies, I hope you can understand. 🙂 Esprix, I know you weren’t serious when you said “Japan sucks”, to some ignorant folks, like myself, them’s would be “fightin’ words”. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/57 "2001-06-25T21:53:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wishbone \* > **As some of you may know, berrating an ill-responsive and ignorant idiot reflects that same idiocy onto yourself. Surely it is both a waste of time and aproductive, you should know that!** Are you saying that you _knew_ you were acting as an ass? \*\* > [@](#): > > Hook, line, and sinker…\*\* Hey, that’s a fishing term, much like, um… what’s that one word taking from fishing used to describe idiots on message boards… ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/58 "2001-06-25T22:24:57Z")
Shark bait? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/59 "2001-06-25T22:26:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sublight \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > > **PS: One sentence summary of 95% of all anime: Multi-tentacled monster blows up city.** > > And then tries to peek up schoolgirls’ skirts. > > Seriously, for those of you who think that Japanese Anime is repetitious and unoriginal, you should see the stuff that _doesn’t_ get exported. It’s like Hanna-Barbera with an underwear fetish sometimes. > > –sublight. \*\* Sometimes?! ---
**Author:** ![Sultan\_Kinkari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Sultan\_Kinkari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sultan_Kinkari)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2001, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875/60 "2001-06-25T23:45:32Z")
You can take your shark bait and shove it…into the ground(that’s fish fertilizer to y’all city folk), so it my give life to budding young plants. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-disney-check-this-out-another-reason-to-hate/69875.md?page=4)