# Fuck ecaptcha
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 16, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764 "2024-08-16T02:50:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/1 "2024-08-16T02:50:44Z")
Fucking bullshit. I see it and I want to to scream. My goddamned ID and password should be enough. But noooooooo. Click all the boxes that have a motorcycle. Do it again. Do it again. And again. Now click all that traffic lights. even though, technicall, almost ALL the boxes have some portion of that image in them, but allright. Do it again, and again…ooops try again later.
Don’t even get me started on the ‘audio’ horeshit.
FUCK YOU TO HELL!!! Would a fucking robot say that??? I am not a robot. YOU’RE a fucking robot.
Who the fuck thought of this worthless trash???
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/2 "2024-08-16T02:56:21Z")
IIRC, the original purpose of those “click all the boxes that contain X” stuff was to train AI before they decided to just start plagiarizing Youtube videos instead.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/3 "2024-08-16T02:57:29Z")
The people that found out robots were shitloads smarter then we thought they would be, and could easily manipulate what was bought and/or said and/or thought. Robots have the added bonus of have no thought process to influence or interrupt. The more people try to find robots, the less I wonder if the person spouting on about how a person helped helped them in some way or another is actually a fucking computer program that runs automatically and does so dirt cheap.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/4 "2024-08-16T02:58:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#):
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> IIRC, the original purpose of those “click all the boxes that contain X” stuff was to train AI before they decided to just start plagiarizing Youtube videos instead.
It turns out that what you click isn’t half as important as how you click it.
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### Author:  [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/5 "2024-08-16T03:01:32Z")
It seems I click robotically.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/6 "2024-08-16T03:02:45Z")
Nice, smooth and direct from one picture to another?
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### Author:  [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/7 "2024-08-16T03:37:20Z")
My local water company runs me through that when I pay my bill online. And the only thing you can do when you log in is pay your bill. For fuck’s sake, if someone else wants to hack into my water company account and pay my bill for me, they’re more than welcome.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/8 "2024-08-16T03:40:39Z")
Hate-filled shitstain decides to fuck up your bill by paying…then stopping the payment. They have given an alternate number and the first you find out about it it may be too late.
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### Author:  [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/9 "2024-08-16T03:45:42Z")
There’s that, i guess, but (a) I would hope no one hates me enough to go to the trouble of hacking into my water account, of all things, and (b) if they do, maybe they deserve it.
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### Author:  [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/10 "2024-08-16T04:03:14Z")
I’ve read many times that AI is now better at getting past most CAPTCHAs than humans are.
Have you done the one where you slide a small picture into the outline that matches it? Like a toddler’s jigsaw puzzle?
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### Author:  [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/11 "2024-08-16T04:05:46Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Click all the boxes that have a motorcycle.
I’d probably fail. I was in the motorcycle business for a long time, and have some pretty solid opinions…
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### Author:  [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/12 "2024-08-16T04:32:31Z")
I hate that shit too. eChapcha is bad.
So is the word jumble one. Is it upper case or lower case? Who the fuck knows? I now click on the redo button half a dozen times until one shows up that is more or less intelligible. Gah
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### Author:  [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/13 "2024-08-16T06:11:32Z")
And to make it even more fun, ecaptcha insists on loading in the local language. That’s fine if you happen to be a local. You’re screwed if you’re traveling.
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### Author:  [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/14 "2024-08-16T06:16:10Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#):
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> So is the word jumble one. Is it upper case or lower case? Who the fuck knows? I now click on the redo button half a dozen times until one shows up that is more or less intelligible. Gah
I get to about three or four times before I ask myself, “Do I _really_ want to visit this site?” About half the time, I realize that I don’t.
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### Author:  [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/15 "2024-08-16T07:37:14Z")
> [@dirtball](#):
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> My local water company runs me through that when I pay my bill online. And the only thing you can do when you log in is pay your bill. For fuck’s sake, if someone else wants to hack into my water company account and pay my bill for me, they’re more than welcome.
Ha! Same with my natural gas account. I’m not even sure you can pay through that login, the most you can do is **see** your gas bill. Heaven forfend that some random internet hacker could see my gas bill! To protect against that terrible calamity, the gas company even offers two-factor authentication!
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Hate-filled shitstain decides to fuck up your bill by paying…then stopping the payment. They have given an alternate number and the first you find out about it it may be too late.
Not possible through the bill-paying tech my bank uses. You can stop inter-bank transfers if they haven’t been deposited yet, but once a bill payment is made, it’s done.
> [@Spoons](#):
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> > [@China\_Guy](#):
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> > So is the word jumble one. Is it upper case or lower case? Who the fuck knows? I now click on the redo button half a dozen times until one shows up that is more or less intelligible. Gah
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> I get to about three or four times before I ask myself, “Do I _really_ want to visit this site?” About half the time, I realize that I don’t.
Yep. And also applies to the very annoying practice (which I believe was mandated by some edict from the EU) where a website informs you that they’re so awesomely concerned about your privacy that they want to tell you how they use cookies and present you with a dialog where you get to choose which type of cookies you want to allow. Most of the time I’ll either click “Reject All” if that’s an option, or just click the “X” on the browser tab (which should be known as the “fuck you, you’re not worth the hassle” option).
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/16 "2024-08-16T07:50:49Z")
> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Yep. And also applies to the very annoying practice (which I believe was mandated by some edict from the EU) where a website informs you that they’re so awesomely concerned about your privacy that they want to tell you how they use cookies and present you with a dialog where you get to choose which type of cookies you want to allow.
> Open website
> Close “subscribe now” pop-over
> Close “turn off your ad-blocker” pop-over
> Close ad pop-over
> Click no on “Allow this site to send you notifications”
> Close the auto-play video
> Click on cookies policy
> Click no on “enter your email for savings!” pop-over
> Wait, why did I click on this site in the first place?
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/17 "2024-08-16T07:56:52Z")
Dude, that’s basically every website, as that notification is required by EU law, specifically so you can opt out.
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### Author:  [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/18 "2024-08-16T07:58:19Z")
> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Not possible through the bill-paying tech my bank uses. …
I think it’s worth pointing out that here in Canada, we can pay pretty much all utility bills, taxes, membership fees to organizations, mortgages, credit card tabs, insurance premiums, and other things, through our banks. I log on to to my bank’s online banking website at the end of the month, pay all the monthly bills (plus any others that may only occur once a year), and that’s that. No need to interact individually with the phone company, the gas company, the power company, and so on. My bank is a one stop shop where I can pay bills.
I’m not sure what happens in the United States, but if you’re logging on to Power Company to pay its bill, then logging out and logging on to Mortgage Company to pay its bill, then logging out and logging on to Gas Company to pay its bill, then logging out and logging on to XYZ Insurance Company to pay its bill, and so on, then you might consider asking your bank to adopt the Canadian model, where your bank is a one stop shop for paying bills. One login, you pay the bills, then you log out. That’s it. I log into one website, and spend maybe 15 minutes a month paying bills.
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### Author:  [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/19 "2024-08-16T08:14:28Z")
> [@Spoons](#):
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> One login, you pay the bills, then you log out. That’s it. I spend maybe 15 minutes a month paying bills.
Since this is the Pit and we can digress a bit, one of my complaints is that you can’t just do this “at the end of the month” because various bills are due at various times throughout the month, and even if you wanted to pay them in advance you may not know the amount until it’s close to the due date.
My worst problem is my credit card accounts. I no longer get paper bills for pretty much anything, but I do get email reminders from utility companies, but, oddly, not from the credit card accounts. Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that if you’re even a day late in paying off the full monthly balance they get to ding you interest for the whole balance? 🙄
They also like to play this game where the due date varies from month to month. I logged in to my bank yesterday to pay one of my major credit cards that tends to accumulate the most charges, because last month the due date was the 15th. Ha! This month it was the 12th. So I’m gonna be dinged interest charges – nothing that’s gonna bankrupt me, but certainly the cost of a nice lunch.
With my credit card accounts – and only those – I’ve learned that I have to set up manual reminders.
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### Author:  [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2024, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ecaptcha/1005764/20 "2024-08-16T08:42:28Z")
> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Since this is the Pit and we can digress a bit, one of my complaints is that you can’t just do this “at the end of the month” because various bills are due at various times throughout the month, and even if you wanted to pay them in advance you may not know the amount until it’s close to the due date.
No, it’s possible. I agree, that due dates can be all over the place, but they need not be, especially if they (as most bills are) are on a net 30 basis. I’ve called creditors, told them, “I want my bill due at the end of the month,” and they accommodate. There may be a period of adjustment where one bill is a walloping amount, while another is absurdly small, but they will accommodate, in my experience. After all, they want their money for services rendered, and they’ll get it, as long as you and they agree that bills are due at the end of the month.
If you’re paying bills throughout the month, then there’s no harm in giving my method a try. Only thing is, telephone them. I have no idea how you’d do this online. But when I’ve (finally) been connected to a live operator, they were happy to switch my bills over to end-of-the-month. Just as long as everything got paid for in the end.
Let’s end the hijack here, shall we?
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