# Fuck Everything!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2003, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580 "2003-02-17T04:46:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/21 "2003-02-17T08:00:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*Oh please! You think you’re the only one that’s been hurt, has problems, and thinks life sucks? Well, you’re not. Get a grip, deal with it, and get over it. Whining about it isn’t going to help. If you don’t like your life, get off your ass and do something about it. \*\* No shit. ---
**Author:** ![nothingnobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c2a13f/32.png) [@nothingnobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nothingnobody)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/22 "2003-02-17T08:12:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*Oh please! You think you’re the only one that’s been hurt, has problems, and thinks life sucks? Well, you’re not. Get a grip, deal with it, and get over it. Whining about it isn’t going to help. If you don’t like your life, get off your ass and do something about it. \*\* do something about it, eh? like kill himself? ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/23 "2003-02-17T08:38:30Z")
**Lucki** , I know this doesn’t help, but I feel your pain. I’ve muttered almost every word you’ve written at some point. What is there to say? It’s all so recursive. I still haven’t found anything that helps me. I try to get out as much as I can- even if I am crying or sleepwalking, and that kind of helps. I’m just biding time until I can find something that can help me, because I know the real me is in there somewhere. And the real you is still in there somewhere, too. And your only job right now is to stay alive until that real you figures out how to get out. Don’t worry. He’ll make it. Just hold on and wait and figure that things will get magically better. It will. It has to. It doesn’t have to be now, but it will be soon, okay? okay? god what a world that lets people feel like this! Lucki, from one broken soul to another, I love you. Stick around. Theres got to be something in this world for people like us. ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/24 "2003-02-17T08:38:53Z")
**Q.E.D.** (and **keturah** too), your response was very inappropriate. Lucki has been diagnosed with depression, which is a _disease_. It’s even a leading cause of death. Would you tell someone with cancer to stop whining and just get better? ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/25 "2003-02-17T10:56:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by chula \* > \*\*It’s even a leading cause of death. \*\* Everything is a leading cause of death when it suits the arguement. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/26 "2003-02-17T11:17:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stinkpalm \* > \*\*Everything is a leading cause of death when it suits the arguement. :rolleyes: \*\* Why do you have a problem with that? Suicide is the third leading cause of death of youth 15-24 and the eleventh overall in the United States. [cite](http://www.nimh.nih.gov/research/suifact.htm) I haven’t looked up the stats of exactly how many of those are caused by depression, but that webpage states that “The strongest risk factors for attempted suicide in youth are depression, alcohol or other drug use disorder, and aggressive or disruptive behaviors.” Lucki should be taken seriously. Only an asshole would treat someone in his condition like shit. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/27 "2003-02-17T11:24:45Z")
Often, when you’re right at the bottom of the dark pit, climbing seems like a futile and unpleasant thing to do, but climb you must; it’s a vicious circle - depression makes people socially undesirable, being socially undesirable makes people depressed. Breaking the cycle is really hard and for a long time it may look like all your effort is taking you nowhere. I realise how glib this all sounds, but I have been somewhere very much like where you are now; people tried to help, in their way but it was hard for them to keep it up, particularly as I was ungrateful for their efforts (I _hated_ the way that it all seemed so simple to them, in their positions of comfort). For me, it was mostly a case of generating a feeling of self-worth - finding something to be happy about, however small, finding something to enjoy and taking pleasure in it. …ramble, ramble…blah blah; Anyway, **Lucki** ; I’m really sorry to hear that you are so low and I hope things change for the better really soon; be nice to yourself. ---
**Author:** ![jacksen9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@jacksen9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacksen9)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/28 "2003-02-17T11:41:52Z")
Lucki, I hope you have a better day today. Believe that the best thing for you has not happened just yet. Things will get better and you will feel better… hopefully soon. I will have a good thought for you today. I will be checking this thread to see how you are. Let us hear from you soon. Please. Above all, remember to have faith in yourself. There is something you are here for. You have a mission that only you can complete. This is easy to forget during the hard times. Remember the things that are easily forgotten and forget the things that are easily remembered. It’s crazy but true. Thinking of you, pam ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/29 "2003-02-17T13:25:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by nothingnobody \* > \*\*do something about it, eh? like kill himself? \*\* No, you idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/30 "2003-02-17T17:42:25Z")
Hey Luki - I was about to write a post like yours and I could take yours word for word. You are not alone… ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/31 "2003-02-17T18:32:13Z")
Ya see, what Q.E.D is failing to recognize is that there is sadness on many different levels. When Q.E.D is out of work, life sucks, but he can get another job (Yeah the market may suck, but when it comes down to it, if you want to eat, you will). When you lose a loved one, life sucks for awhile, but things almost always pick up. Things like these usually warrant a “pick your self up and quit whining” rhetoric. Not everyone has a strong circle of friends. Not everyone has a SO. Not everyone had or has a strong nuclear family structure. It’s just not that easy to say find new friends. It’s just not that easy to say, “how do you know she won’t like you, you don’t even talk to her”, really? “what do I say without sounding corny?”. EVERYONE has been rejected in one way another over something. But a significant amount of people are rejected by everybody everyday. Rich or poor, humans need a certain amount of love and affection, and if they never get it, they get depressed, angry, AND both. ---
**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/32 "2003-02-17T19:26:42Z")
I’m a little known middle-aged female lurker/doper who has survived her fair share of life’s bullshit \*\* Lucki\*\* and I seem to recall that you’re in the Austin area. If buying you a bang-up lunch and listening to you would help-well, I’m in Austin once a week and I’d be happy to oblige. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/33 "2003-02-17T19:36:01Z")
Evidently someone has given **Lucki Chaarms** the ability to go back in time and emulate me. Who knew? Not me, that’s for sure. What I do know, however, is that things are much better now. Life presents opportunities in very strange ways. ---
**Author:** ![monica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@monica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monica)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/34 "2003-02-17T22:22:32Z")
**Lucki** , I sincerely hope that things get better for you. I honestly don’t know what to suggest, other than look for something that makes you smile, then follow that for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/35 "2003-02-17T22:59:30Z")
I was going to retort that my vagina’s not big enough to fuck everything, but now it just doesn’t seem appropriate anymore. I get depressed too, **Lucki**. Just know that the dark cloud hanging over your head will eventually pass. Take care. ---
**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/36 "2003-02-18T00:16:45Z")
Checking in to let everyone know that I’m physically OK, and not to worry on that front (as I said, I’m not strong enough to kill myself even if I was proud enough to think it woul be a worthwhile idea), and also to reiterate everything that I said and then some. Thanks for the kind words, everyone who left them, and to **Q.E.D.** : You’re not bitching? Really? It seems like you’re not only bitching about your situation (which does genuinely suck), but your taking it out on me, when I’ve got my own shit to deal with. Don’t be so fucking self-righteous, you fucking caricature of strength. Yeah, you’re such a fucking man that you deal with your problems by preterition and viciousness. Good fucking job. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/37 "2003-02-18T15:35:41Z")
> [@](#): > > (as I said, I’m not strong enough to kill myself even if I was proud enough to think it woul be a worthwhile idea), By not killing yourself, you’re showing more strength than you think. Suicide is never a worthwhile idea. Be nice to yourself, like **Mangetout** said. Listen to those people who’ve been through depression. Talk to those friends that you can trust, such as people like **matt\_mcl**. > [@](#): > > I like you. When I see your name next to a post, the image of you flying through the air, from that photo you posted a while back, pops into mind immediately. Me, too. ---
**Author:** ![byter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@byter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/byter)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/38 "2003-02-18T20:25:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lucki Chaarms \* > \*\*Fuck the therapists who fucking tell me what I’m feeling when they have no idea, or who sit and barely acknowledge me. Fuck my parents who call me a liar when I say anything less than perfect about them to a therapist, fuck the side-effects of anti-depressants, and fuck everyone who proposes therapy as a cure-all for everyone. \*\* What **Zoe** said. There is no single thing that is going to change your attitude. SSRIs can be very helpful, as well as a good therapist that doesn’t share your confidences with your parents. As far as the “side-effects”, different drugs have different degress of the effects. I don’t think the potential “side-effects” would be as debilitating as the depression your are mired in. Do yourself a favor, and go back to your doctor and share with him your pain and your problems. He/She should be able to help you get started. Stick with it. If you are at the bottom, the only way left is up. Good luck, and keep your friends here informed. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/39 "2003-02-18T20:53:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*Well, I’ve been out of work for a month and a half, have no unemployment, have $150 left to my name, can’t pay my rent, can’t find a job cause of the shitty market and I have no idea what I’ll do when the money’s gone if I can’t find a job. So, yeah, I’m in a bitchy mood, but you don’t hear me whining about it, do you? No, because it won’t do any good. So, life isn’t fair. Oh, boo hoo. Get over it. \*\* Perhaps you should spend more time looking for a job then posting to a message board. I feel bad for **Lucki** , but not for you. :wally ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2003, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580/40 "2003-02-18T21:02:22Z")
**Lucki** , can I ask if you’re still sober? I only ask 'cuz I would hate to think what a few hits would do to your already large problems. You don’t know me from anybody, but I have been where you are. It was all I could do to just not hurt myself and slog through another day. It hurt but I did it. You can too. I’ll be thinking about ya. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-everything/155580.md?page=3)