# Fuck Florida **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2024, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235 "2024-09-29T10:55:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/61 "2024-09-30T23:59:22Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Everywhere has some risk. Most places don’t have nearly as much risk as Florida. That’s because Florida is barely above sea level. The risk of tropical storms and hurricanes bringing storm surges is just added fun. Florida’s regressive climate-change-denying political culture completes the trifecta of risk. > Between the Everglades to the west and Biscayne Bay, which stretches from Lake Okeechobee southward to Florida Bay, Miami and its suburbs are situated on a large plain. The majority of the communities, particularly those close to the seaside, are on average only 6 feet above sea level. > [Geography of Miami Florida - Ranger Guard and Investigations](https://rangerguard.net/florida/south/miami/geography-of-miami-florida/#:~:text=Between%20the%20Everglades%20to%20the,6%20feet%20above%20sea%20level.) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/62 "2024-10-01T00:57:55Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > My houseboat will be an unsinkable, oceangoing houseboat. Wouldn’t that be a yacht? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/63 "2024-10-01T01:01:03Z")
Is there a yacht that claims to be unsinkable? Seems like they sink all the time, if you can believe the interwebs. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/64 "2024-10-01T10:29:40Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Is there a yacht that claims to be unsinkable? Seems like they sink all the time, if you can believe the interwebs. Some have solid gold toilet bowls too… ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/65 "2024-10-01T12:34:36Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > San Carlos Island is little piece of land between the Town of Fort Myers Beach (Estero Island) and the mainland. The east half of the island was mostly mobile homes on 40-foot wide lots a few feet above sea level and Ian wiped ALL of them off the map. In a bit of irony, Fort Myers had planned an event for the two-year anniversary Ian last Saturday that had to be cancelled because of Helene. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/66 "2024-10-01T13:27:17Z")
That was Fort Myers Beach. Not Fort Myers. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/67 "2024-10-01T18:45:33Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Is there a yacht that claims to be unsinkable? This isn’t a yacht but it claims to be the closest thing to unsinkable you’ll be able to find. > **[Thunder Child, the unsinkable boat? Self-righting, wavepiercing interceptor...](https://www.ediweekly.com/thunder-child-unsinkable-boat-self-righting-wavepiercing-interceptor-designed-naval-law-enforcement-use-engineered-nearly-perfect-boat-offshore-patrol-operations/)** To be fair, it doesn’t claim to be **100%** unsinkable: > Not only can Thunder Child pierce the waves, she can also recover from full capsize thanks to a fully buoyant and water-tight cabin and low centre of gravity. Thunder Child is designed to be “almost’ unsinkable — after all, nothing is entirely unsinkable — rated safe up to sea state 8. And [according to Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_state), sea state 8 is a condition where waves are 9-14 meters (30-46 ft) high; it’s the second-to-worst sea condition a ship might deal with. Sea state 9 is literally anything over 14 meters high. So this should be able to withstand 9 meter (30 ft) waves. That seems crazy to me. A bit more detail on the boat: > A crew of 10 can be comfortably seated, 6 on shock mitigation seats and 4 on fixed seats in her main cabin, a separate heads and sleeping compartment in her f/wd cabin. It doesn’t look too bad on the inside: [![](https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/68840716_3356135747790717_6417676408700534784_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=f798df&_nc_ohc=uWJ7VKNyxboQ7kNvgEA9yuH&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&_nc_gid=Ao17jOuwHyqtfqHfsDeNOFb&oh=00_AYDcXy3qXVaIocZaGnql4lC_rjuE9xX-mP7of88I8etxKg&oe=6723B8EF) ](https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/68840716_3356135747790717_6417676408700534784_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=f798df&_nc_ohc=uWJ7VKNyxboQ7kNvgEA9yuH&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&_nc_gid=Ao17jOuwHyqtfqHfsDeNOFb&oh=00_AYDcXy3qXVaIocZaGnql4lC_rjuE9xX-mP7of88I8etxKg&oe=6723B8EF) [![](https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/69249374_3356135487790743_6703160496863838208_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=f798df&_nc_ohc=sJRSxDDxf7oQ7kNvgGajVHJ&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&_nc_gid=AuRIRqGmBAX1ZGV8B8FiFzN&oh=00_AYA07k-twA3SwcinXLOvqSH7Krwn9O3JoJXm2hMEIg4jCw&oe=6723AA5B) ](https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/69249374_3356135487790743_6703160496863838208_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=f798df&_nc_ohc=sJRSxDDxf7oQ7kNvgGajVHJ&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&_nc_gid=AuRIRqGmBAX1ZGV8B8FiFzN&oh=00_AYA07k-twA3SwcinXLOvqSH7Krwn9O3JoJXm2hMEIg4jCw&oe=6723AA5B) [![](https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/68967820_3356135707790721_61143626872258560_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=f798df&_nc_ohc=13QItj85VMYQ7kNvgH8emey&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&_nc_gid=Apj1L0Ka-9JTM1ZUwzXojqU&oh=00_AYBuiNHhhbm3MCGnmHN10Kyg9rdHKf8y5CvWTnqA0YLeJw&oe=6723A427) ](https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/68967820_3356135707790721_61143626872258560_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=f798df&_nc_ohc=13QItj85VMYQ7kNvgH8emey&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&_nc_gid=Apj1L0Ka-9JTM1ZUwzXojqU&oh=00_AYBuiNHhhbm3MCGnmHN10Kyg9rdHKf8y5CvWTnqA0YLeJw&oe=6723A427) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/68 "2024-10-01T18:58:06Z")
I wonder if it could jump giant waves like a Jetski jumping boat wakes. That would make circumnavigation fun. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/69 "2024-10-01T19:03:41Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I wonder if it could jump giant waves like a Jetski jumping boat wakes It looks like it kind of can; here is Thunder Child II hitting some heavy waves. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/PaHK2lXV23Y/maxresdefault.jpg "'Maskulin' & 'Thunder Child II' in storm") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaHK2lXV23Y) (Thunder Child II is the yellow boat in this video.) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/70 "2024-10-01T19:07:25Z")
I know what I’m getting when I win the big one. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/71 "2024-10-01T19:11:35Z")
I’m going for a submarine. Drop a couple hundred feet, you’re good to go. Though, technically, I guess they’re very much sinkable. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/72 "2024-10-01T19:14:16Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I know what I’m getting when I win the big one. Oh who are you kidding? You’d be lucky to be able to afford [a much smaller one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_iBmG5Y_BU). ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/73 "2024-10-01T19:27:54Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > How is the home/property insurance situation for these communities along the waterfront in Florida - are people going uninsured? Oh, my - yes. Florida is even slightly worse: > **[Homeowners Insurance A Growing Concern in Florida and California](https://nationalmortgageprofessional.com/news/homeowners-insurance-growing-concern-florida-and-california)** > > Insurance is at the top of mind for homebuyers and homeowners in Florida and California, which have become epicenters of the nationwide housing insurance crisis.  Rising homeowners insurance premiums and changes in coverage are so commonplace... The following article is partially blaming fraud in Florida and regulation in California, which may or may not be true but is a hilarious framing regardless. Blue state, red state (purplish, anyway) with same general problem, but utterly stereotypical scapegoats 😀: > **[Home Insurance 'Crisis': Is My State Next? | Bankrate](https://www.bankrate.com/insurance/homeowners-insurance/insurance-crisis/)** > > Discover the state of the homeowners insurance market in Florida and California and how extreme weather and climate patterns are impacting rates nationwide. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/74 "2024-10-09T23:12:55Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > That’s because Florida is barely above sea level. The risk of tropical storms and hurricanes bringing storm surges is just added fun. Florida’s regressive climate-change-denying political culture completes the trifecta of risk. that’s NOT coincidence, (neither is DJT’s stupidity on this matter) … if you have all your assets [your house] literally on a sinking boat, the only way you can keep it (somewhat) from devaluation is making cognitive sommersaults, negating the fact. People in FLA will always be like that, otherwise they’d reckon their houses are sinking and becoming basically worthless. Same for Mar-a-lago. People who reckon climate change is real, got out there years ago, before it bacame obvious to the eye. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/75 "2024-10-09T23:32:49Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Are they even able to go out onto the ocean? I mean, I guess they can try but is it a good idea? Seems puttering around the harbor is about the best they can hope for. The houseboat _Busted Flush_ used to travel along the west Florida coast and even out to small Caribbean islands in the Travis McGee novels, though he had to be alert for bad weather. As to the OP, will it be “Screw California” after the next severe drought and uncontrolled wildfires culminate with a major burp from the San Andreas Fault? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/76 "2024-10-10T00:06:48Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > The houseboat _Busted Flush_ used to travel along the west Florida coast and even out to small Caribbean islands in the Travis McGee novels, though he had to be alert for bad weather. > > As to the OP, will it be “Screw California” after the next severe drought and uncontrolled wildfires culminate with a major burp from the San Andreas Fault? The West Coast seems a ripe place to be a billionaire… but what do you do with the yacht? Trips to Mexico, central and south America and back? Your boat might look mighty tempting to a crew looking for an easy way to ship drugs. Trips to OR, WA, and Alaska and back? Test your nautical prowess and try for HI? ( It might be another 10 years until Maui is fully rebuilt ) Florida does have a good range of ports of call in both the eastern & western Caribbean… but will Florida remain viable? If not, what then… head north and try to spend your money in Charleston? Head further north to the colder weather of NJ, Montauk, CT, or RI? Try to handle the much colder weather of Maine or Canada? Or become a Masshole? ( Might as well change your last name to Affleck ) Decisions, decisions… ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/77 "2024-10-10T00:17:45Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > As to the OP, will it be “Screw California” after the next severe drought and uncontrolled wildfires culminate with a major burp from the San Andreas Fault? The main reason I am living in Massachusetts is I didn’t want to live through another fire season (year round now). I’ve lived through an earthquake that destroyed my house. Earthquakes are not caused by global climate change, and in any case are in my opinion not to be compared with fire. I don’t have to say screw California, it is already screwed. It’s the greatest bitterness of my life, what humans have done to it. ---
**Author:** ![DaveUnknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@DaveUnknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveUnknown)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/78 "2024-10-10T01:14:44Z")
“Fuck Florida” because of Rick Scott, DeSantis, Rubio, Gaetz, etc. The state as it stands is ok, floridaman notwithstanding. I want to like Florida if only for its nature. I think Rick Scott is (maybe) the worst US senator, worse than Cruz. Cruz is a total buffoon. Scott is the most sanctimonious, two faced, evil I-hate-the-poors POS of the whole 100. At least you know where Tuberville stands. Scott votes like him and thinks like him, but you never hear about it. The wealthiest senator as well. I hate that the Nelson campaign couldn’t tap on how out of touch Scott is. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/79 "2024-10-10T01:47:28Z")
> [@DaveUnknown](#): > > think Rick Scott is (maybe) the worst US senator, worse than Cruz. I lived in Florida when Rick Scott was governor. He can fuck off straight to hell. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235/80 "2024-10-10T02:05:42Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > As to the OP, will it be “Screw California” after the next severe drought and uncontrolled wildfires culminate with a major burp from the San Andreas Fault? I heard plenty of that over the 30+ years I lived there, pretty much up to my last day at work. I said then as I say now, “I’d rather shake n bake than go through a(nother) hurricane”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-florida/1008235.md?page=5)