# Fuck Fox. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 23, 2005, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760 "2005-07-23T03:07:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/21 "2005-07-25T10:59:52Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > I’m a pretty big SciFi fan, and I tried to watch that series a few times. I thought it was mediocre at best. No sympathy from me on this one. Sorry… Ditto. I liked it better the first time I saw it, when it was set in the past and starred John Wayne. No, wait, I didn’t like it that time either. I saw enough cowboy types growing up in Cheney, Washington… I don’t want to watch them on TV too, even if they’re pretending to be astronauts. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/22 "2005-07-26T16:40:31Z")
It strikes me that in my youth any time a film started with the 20th Century Fox logo I was sure I was going to be in for a treat. Maybe they made plenty of howlers back then, but non the less the logo stood for quality in my mind in those days. These days I find this no longer to be true. Somehow Fox has moved from quality to crappiness over the last 20 years or so. The managerial blindness that hobbled Firefly is just one such symptom, Fox seems to have become the Wall Mart of the entertainment world. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/23 "2005-07-26T16:47:48Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I actually wrote FOX/TV several times about the problem (as did many others) when it was still on the air. Oh, so it’s your fault! I can see it now: CEO “What moron wants to cancel _Firefly_? It’s a great shoQ” Suit: “Sir, NoClueBoy wrote that he likes it.” CEO “Shucks, that’s too bad. Kill it.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/24 "2005-07-26T16:59:47Z")
> [@Bippy the Beardless](#): > > It strikes me that in my youth any time a film started with the 20th Century Fox logo I was sure I was going to be in for a treat. You’re kidding, right? Because I have Fox Movie Channel as part of my DirecTV lineup, and for every good movie they drag out of their vaults, they have ten absolute suckathons. Worse yet, they run the suckathons over and over - _Phantom of the Paradise_ . . ._Mannequin_. . . gaaaaahhh. . . And if I have to see the short film they made about the Brooklyn Bridge scene in the _Fantastic Four_ one more time I’ll scream like a 12-year-old girl. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/25 "2005-07-26T17:12:16Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > You’re kidding, right? Because I have Fox Movie Channel as part of my DirecTV lineup, and for every good movie they drag out of their vaults, they have ten absolute suckathons. They also had some [great ones.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_Century_Fox#1940s) The Day the Earth Stood Still, Zorba the Greek, Sound of Music, Flight of the Phoenix, The Sand Pebbles. True, you don’t have to look hard for bad ones. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/26 "2005-07-26T17:40:04Z")
I was considering mostly 20 years ago which gave us Star Wars, History of the World Part I , Romancing the Stone, Cocoon, Alien, Predator, Raising Arizona, and Die Hard. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/27 "2005-07-26T17:43:36Z")
> [@Baldwin](#): > > Silenus – that seems a bit overblown. Obviously, Fox made a stupid decision, and killed a good show. _A_ good show? “Firefly” is an example of a larger problem. Fox has a history of dropping good shows without giving them much of a chance; they’ve been doing this practically since they first went on the air and it’s been getting worse. “Firefly”, “Futurama”, “Farscape”, “Family Guy” (although that’s back), “John Doe”, “Andy Richter Controls the Universe”, “The Lone Gunmen”, “The Tick”, “FreakyLinks”, “Strange Luck”, “The Critic”, “Herman’s Head”, “Get a Life”, etc. Only two of these managed to get four seasons in. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/28 "2005-07-26T17:55:04Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > And if I have to see the short film they made about the Brooklyn Bridge scene in the _Fantastic Four_ one more time I’ll scream like a 12-year-old girl. [Here ya go.](http://media.filmforce.ign.com/media/033/033918/vids_1.html) ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/29 "2005-07-26T18:38:32Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > _A_ good show? “Firefly” is an example of a larger problem. Fox has a history of dropping good shows without giving them much of a chance; they’ve been doing this practically since they first went on the air and it’s been getting worse. “Firefly”, “Futurama”, **“Farscape”** , “Family Guy” (although that’s back), “John Doe”, “Andy Richter Controls the Universe”, “The Lone Gunmen”, “The Tick”, “FreakyLinks”, “Strange Luck”, “The Critic”, “Herman’s Head”, “Get a Life”, etc. Only two of these managed to get four seasons in. I totally agree with you in priciple, **Lute** , but how was FOX involved with _Farscape_’s cancellation?? Wasn’t it on SciFi? ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/30 "2005-07-26T19:00:46Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I don’t know exactly what level of Hell is reserved for whoever killed\*\* Firefly\*\*. But I do know I want to piss on his grave someday. I’ll join you, but I’ll need to refill my bladder, after voiding on the grave of those who cancelled Wonderfalls. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760/31 "2005-07-26T19:30:07Z")
> [@Orual](#): > > I totally agree with you in priciple, **Lute** , but how was FOX involved with _Farscape_’s cancellation?? > > Wasn’t it on SciFi? It was on SciFi but Delmar Studios had worked out a deal with Fox. This deal was announced back in January but so far nothing’s came from it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fox/313760.md?page=1)