# Fuck France, and Fuck the French! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 3, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931 "2008-03-03T09:07:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/301 "2014-10-09T15:24:05Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Yes. It’s called [Hotels.com](http://Hotels.com). Just remember to not pronounce the H. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/302 "2014-10-09T17:23:12Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I find the same phenomenon in Manhattan, Chicago, Seattle, and downtown Portland. > > It’s almost as if people are assholes, regardless of where they’re from. Or maybe they actually know how big cities are supposed to work, and aren’t a bunch of hick tourists. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/303 "2014-10-09T17:52:22Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I find the same phenomenon in Manhattan, Chicago, Seattle, and downtown Portland. > > It’s almost as if people are assholes, regardless of where they’re from. Pretty much, although different people in different places all manage to do it their own special little way. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/304 "2014-10-09T18:22:56Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I find the same phenomenon in Manhattan, Chicago, Seattle, and downtown Portland. > > It’s almost as if people are assholes, regardless of where they’re from. Oi, _you_. I’ll have you know we French have invested a lot of money, brain-time and effort into being assholes, over multiple centuries. We’ve turned it into an art form, nay, we’ve devised industrial fucking methods to improve the productivity of our assholes to untold heights. We’ve found scientific ways to turn any pedestrian mild annoyance into a synthetic diamond of boiling wordless RAEG. Least y’all Boeotians could do is fucking appreciate the results. Free gratis, too ! Ha, ha, I’m just kidding, of course we’ll make you pay for the privilege. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/305 "2014-10-09T18:42:14Z")
Oh, don’t get me wrong; fuck the French. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/306 "2014-10-09T19:02:17Z")
Thass more like it. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/307 "2014-10-09T21:10:41Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Oi, _you_. I’ll have you know we French have invested a lot of money, brain-time and effort into being assholes, over multiple centuries. We’ve turned it into an art form, nay, we’ve devised industrial fucking methods to improve the productivity of our assholes to untold heights. We’ve found scientific ways to turn any pedestrian mild annoyance into a synthetic diamond of boiling wordless RAEG. Whereas New Yorkers just do it intuitively. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/308 "2014-10-09T21:41:54Z")
Ah, j’adore zees board. ---
**Author:** ![dasilva94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@dasilva94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasilva94)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/309 "2014-10-11T03:20:55Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Oi, _you_. I’ll have you know we French have invested a lot of money, brain-time and effort into being assholes, over multiple centuries. We’ve turned it into an art form, nay, we’ve devised industrial fucking methods to improve the productivity of our assholes to untold heights. We’ve found scientific ways to turn any pedestrian mild annoyance into a synthetic diamond of boiling wordless RAEG. I love France and on the various occasions I’ve visited I’ve always felt a friendly vibe. Even from the security guys with the German Shepherds on the Paris metro late at night! Maybe it’s because I speak a bit of the lingo, and/or the fact I’m neither from the US or the UK, I dunno. Anyhow it saddens me that people may be put off visiting one of the great countries on our planet. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/310 "2014-10-11T14:16:20Z")
I read some articles recently about all the French people leaving France. Mostly moving to London. The reasons are a combination of high taxes and lack of employment opportunities for the young. Are you all seeing this? Will this change France? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/311 "2014-10-11T14:34:56Z")
All the French people are moving to London. Riiiiiight. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/312 "2014-10-11T15:26:44Z")
If they’re leaving for London for tax (i.e. cost of living) reasons, they’re not going to have a good time. Most expensive city I know. Even taking the fucking bus costs a minor organ of your choosing. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/313 "2014-10-11T16:56:38Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I read some articles recently about all the French people leaving France. Mostly moving to London. The reasons are a combination of high taxes and lack of employment opportunities for the young. > > Are you all seeing this? > > Will this change France? I don’t know about that, but I do know that there’s been a large amount of French Jews immigrating to Israel recently - 4500 people so far in 2014 alone. Not a huge amount in the greater scheme of things, but still interesting. They’ve added quite a lot of color to the areas they immigrate to. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/314 "2014-10-12T07:07:51Z")
The only thing visiting americans dont call us (filipinos) is “stinky” so it must be bad. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/315 "2014-10-12T07:21:09Z")
The only thing visiting americans dont call us (filipinos) is “stinky” so it must be bad. ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/316 "2014-10-12T10:57:40Z")
Francois Hollande quite likes high taxes. Obviously, those with money don’t tend to, so they run away to more right-wingier climes. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/317 "2014-10-12T11:56:35Z")
> [@Bozuit](#): > > Francois Hollande quite likes high taxes. Obviously, those with money don’t tend to, so they run away to more right-wingier climes. Because poor people like high taxes? ---
**Author:** ![Longshanks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Longshanks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Longshanks)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/318 "2014-10-12T12:23:42Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Because poor people like high taxes? No, but they can’t generally affford to run away. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/319 "2014-10-12T15:10:48Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Because poor people like high taxes? Well, as long as someone richer is paying them, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931/320 "2014-10-12T16:02:12Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Because poor people like high taxes? What **Longshanks** said. And obviously the higher tax rates are only aimed at those above a certain income, anyway; Hollande introduced a 75% tax on earnings over 1m euros. Also, I think I read recently that richer people really do (generally) resent paying tax more than poorer people, but right now I have no cite and am not 100% sure about exactly what the claim was. It’s almost not worth mentioning that, except that maybe someone else has seen it (or a refutation) somewhere. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-france-and-fuck-the-french/439931.md?page=17)