# FUCK! Fucking Facebook. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950 "2013-07-30T21:34:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/81 "2013-08-01T00:59:59Z")
> [@Sodalite](#): > > Listen. I am angry and filled with hatred for most of the things and people on this planet. When you put it that way, rage about others using facebook seems comparatively reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/82 "2013-08-01T02:10:52Z")
I like Facebook! I have friends flung hither and yon, and Facebook lets me keep up with them. Also, the privacy settings work just fine for me. I have a unique name, and yet, if you Google that name plus Facebook, you will not find me. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/83 "2013-08-01T02:31:15Z")
> [@Ken001](#): > > Must confess to being bewildered as to why Facebook is so popular in the marketing world and also in the online discussion world. I have now accumulated over the last 24 months $14,262 in sales of new computers that tie back to FB conversations. ---
**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/84 "2013-08-01T02:32:40Z")
Another intensely private person-so how does one sign on to FB with an alias? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/85 "2013-08-01T02:46:33Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Errr…of course I made it up. It is statement taken to the absurd extreme. You didn’t really say those words. I promise you that no-one really thinks I’m claiming you did. So it should be given zero value as an argument then. > [@](#): > > (And I think I may found out why your friends are not too fussed about keeping in touch with you.) > > … > > Well I can see you feel personally slighted by your “friends” lack of interest in your activities but that really says something rather uncomplimentary about you, not them. If you have something really important to share with them then get off your arse and call them, or write them a personal email. If it is something so inconsequential that a general update on facebook covers it then I don’t think they are missing out. ( and I suspect they know that too) If all your arguments are based on spinning ridiculous fantasies about my life and making insinuations about my character, then you’ve got nothing. > [@](#): > > And if people don’t wan’t to be in touch so often? or prefer a more tactile, tangible and personal connection? “I’m sorry, but I won’t open and read your letters because I don’t like being in touch that often and prefer a more tactile, tangible, and personal connection.” We live in a society of people and as technologies are adopted, the expectations for their uses change. There are certain behaviors that can mark a person as being eccentric or obnoxious or anti-social or bizarre—for example, refusing to bathe or wearing soiled and tattered clothes. Refusing to engage with your own peer group on social networks is becoming one of those markers. > [@](#): > > I suspect you are only concerned that facebook makes updating multiple people really easy for you and you are bothered by the fact that some people make life just a little more complicated, Your powers of deduction are truly unimpressive. > [@](#): > > Being anti-social would be when you insist on a single mode of communication to the exclusion of others. If they are open to calls, letters, emails, visits or other electronic means while you insist on purely facebook Again, you made this up. I encourage you to craft arguments based on things you actually know, as opposed to imagining defects in my personal character and relationships. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/86 "2013-08-01T02:48:24Z")
Well, first you have to break the registration agreement… ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/87 "2013-08-01T02:56:16Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > the worst example is the already-mentioned trend of web sites using FB (and only FB) as their commenting system. They aren’t missing your incredibly insightful comments, much. Trust me on this one. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/88 "2013-08-01T03:47:26Z")
For me, the major issue is that I already spend too much time looking at a glowing screen. I understand I may be missing out, but I’m okay with that. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/89 "2013-08-01T04:03:27Z")
I don’t get it, why can’t you use a fake name again? ---
**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/90 "2013-08-01T04:18:52Z")
I hate facebook I hate wallmart… Where did everybody go??? 😕 Say’s hi to peeps on hatebook and shops at hatemart. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/91 "2013-08-01T04:20:52Z")
Personally, I’m thinking of joining to _reclaim_ my name (from someone else who has it; I have a pretty unusual one, and it’s the only hit on the front page of Google results that isn’t me). I don’t think the other guy is doing anything bad with it, but why not? Besides, it’d let me see more pictures of my nephews and friends (whose friending, especially of family, would give me away anyway…). ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/92 "2013-08-01T04:58:30Z")
Try Google+. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/93 "2013-08-01T05:58:06Z")
For people so concerned about privacy: don’t put anything on the internet you don’t want people to know about. I love it when people complain that someone linked to a picture that they posted on another site. Hey dumbass – shouldn’t have put it up there to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Sodalite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@Sodalite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sodalite)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/94 "2013-08-01T06:14:40Z")
A lot of people have made good suggestions in this thread and I thank them for it. I did state in the Op, though, that I know about the “security” and “privacy” features of Facebook. I have no plans to post pictures or anything personal on the page. I’m not into spreading every aspect of my personal business to everyone I know and they know and all of those people’s friends, too. I get pissed off enough when my mother does it over the phone. I’ve locked it down in every way possible that still lets me use it the way I need to. Now we get to the one of the problem aspects of Facebook and part of why I hate is so much. I don’t want to need it. I don’t want it hanging off me like a bloated leech. I don’t want to be obligated to have it. I’m disgusted by the number of responses that amount to, “You have to have Facebook and you have to like it. You’re a bad person if you don’t. Only assholes and stupid people don’t worship Facebook.” Why is there no passive way to interact with it? Why do you have to sign up to read what’s written on a groups public page? They have a very different idea of public than I do and their idea of private is ridiculous. The Dope is public and I lurked for years before joining. I joined because I wanted to, not because I was made to feel that I had to. I don’t care if other people spend all day dry humping Facebook. Use it in your sleep too, knock yourself out. Whatever you do with it is your business…and the business of all the people who see your page. If you take a picture with me in it and put it on your page then there is a picture of me posted on Facebook. I didn’t put it there but there it is. Anything you say about me or my personal life, about where we go, what we did, is on Facebook. I didn’t say anything but now it’s out there. I don’t like the way it gives other people control over pieces of my life. Do what you want with Facebook, just leave me out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/95 "2013-08-01T06:35:16Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Again, you made this up. I encourage you to craft arguments based on things you actually know, as opposed to imagining defects in my personal character and relationships. Well all I have to go on is the fact that you are annoyed by people not conforming to your wishes. I am having to assume a lot here. I do note that you’ve very carefully avoided stating whether your friends are wiling to communicate by most methods but just not facebook, I am assuming that they would be happy to do it by other electronic means but you just want to use facebook. You won’t clarify that. Fine. I’ll continue guessing until you set me straight. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/96 "2013-08-01T07:31:41Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > But with some regularity, probably averaging between once a month and twice a week per person, someone will post a little update about what they’ve been doing in their life, a picture of a vacation they’ve been on, a funny joke they heard, or something of that sort. These are things of little consequence and of minor or no interest to many people. > [@](#): > > That kind of blog-esque group updating is something that would have been impossible to do easily 20 years ago, and 10 years ago would have required awkward mass email chains with photo attachments, etc. FB makes it easy. but you assuming that everyone finds them interesting and must be open to receiving them. That just isn’t the case and many people found their physical precursors, the christmas round-robin letters, just as annoying. > [@](#): > > So… the one guy who’s not on FB. Every time any of us has some comment or update or something, should we post it on FB and also remember to specifically email it specifically to him? Would doing so somehow prove that we actually value his friendship in some way that would otherwise be suspect? No, he obviously doesn’t care very much about such updates. He is probably happy enough not get those. if it were important, sure, drop him an email. > [@](#): > > I don’t think it’s RUDE or OFFENSIVE or anything to not be on FB, but I think there’s clearly an extent to which it makes some kinds of communication distinctly more awkward, and is starting to become comparable to not having a phone number at all, or not having an email address. It is comparable to having a mobile rather than a landline or being on a different mobile network. It might mean life is slightly more awkward (or expensive) for you but the other person is perfectly happy. I really don’t see the problem other than a degree of self-centredness on the part of the facebook user ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/97 "2013-08-01T08:18:05Z")
I have a facebook account for a pigeon that I photographed in a parking garage. I promise nothing in the information about the pigeon is accurate. You don’t have to use your real name. Facebook is the platform that reality now runs on. Get used to it. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/98 "2013-08-01T09:00:14Z")
IMO, most of the people who insist on hating on Facebook are NOT the target demographic for Facebook. (IMO urban/suburbanites under 40). ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/99 "2013-08-01T09:37:12Z")
I don’t care that you don’t use FB for yourself, your own page or fake ID page can be the minimum bare bones to the highest security setting of “not make my name searchable by google” and “only friends of friends can find me”. But your club, of which you are an officer, will probably benefit from such a page. They do have a webpage, right? Then why not a FB page that can be relatively more easily updated with news and information relevant to the club? If you do not want to deal with that aspect of your mentorship, delegate it to someone else, stat. Explain that you don’t care for it yourself, but that it may be useful for others and the club, and may persist long after you’re gone as a mentor. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/100 "2013-08-01T10:34:51Z")
**OP** : this is all about the Timeline thing, isn’t it? I hated it at first, but have since grown to accept it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950.md?page=6)