# FUCK! Fucking Facebook. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950 "2013-07-30T21:34:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/101 "2013-08-01T11:09:35Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > It is comparable to having a mobile rather than a landline or being on a different mobile network. It might mean life is slightly more awkward (or expensive) for you but the other person is perfectly happy. I really don’t see the problem other than a degree of self-centredness on the part of the facebook user No, I think Max’s analogy to someone without an email address is far more apt than someone just being on a different mobile network. For a lot of people, their primary communication tool is Facebook - and for them, utilizing a different medium just for one hold out is an inconvenience. (I’m not even sure how someone being on a different mobile network is an inconvenience.) That person should expect that they will be left off a number of communications. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/102 "2013-08-01T11:32:15Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Well all I have to go on is the fact that you are annoyed by people not conforming to your wishes. I am having to assume a lot here. > > I do note that you’ve very carefully avoided stating whether your friends are wiling to communicate by most methods but just not facebook, I am assuming that they would be happy to do it by other electronic means but you just want to use facebook. You won’t clarify that. Fine. I’ll continue guessing until you set me straight. You don’t need to assume or guess anything about me or my life in order to discuss Facebook. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/103 "2013-08-01T12:57:59Z")
Now this is what gets me. We not only can not be on Facebook and just deal with the repercussions; we _have_ to be on Facebook or we are anti-social, assholish Luddites. No facebook for me. I tried it, it didn’t do it for me, it was annoying as hell. That’s my choice. I understand the repercussions and still don’t want it. Amazing, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/104 "2013-08-01T13:23:20Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Now this is what gets me. We not only can not be on Facebook and just deal with the repercussions; we _have_ to be on Facebook or we are anti-social, assholish Luddites. Hyperbole aside, who is suggesting this? ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/105 "2013-08-01T13:29:34Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Now this is what gets me. We not only can not be on Facebook and just deal with the repercussions; we _have_ to be on Facebook or we are anti-social, assholish Luddites. > > No facebook for me. I tried it, it didn’t do it for me, it was annoying as hell. That’s my choice. I understand the repercussions and still don’t want it. Amazing, isn’t it? This. I’ve been taken to task on this board before in other threads about facebook, called on old fogey (by some of the same people in this thread, BTW), anti-social, resistant to change, etc. Even though I’ve stated, very clearly, I was a FBer for YEARS. Tried it, liked it, eventually got tired of it, now much happier without it. :smack: I do have a twitter account, kinda like that, I have about 10 or so other online social-like message boards that I’m fairly active on, most of which involve some specific common interest, but which definitely have a neighborhood feel to them. Not a gaddamned Luddite!! :D:D Just don’t care for the drama central “aren’t I a special flower” environment of facebook. Small f intentional. So there. Now get off of my lawn, you bastards. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/106 "2013-08-01T13:33:43Z")
> [@bdgr](#): > > \Facebook is the platform that reality now runs on. Get used to it. That’s funny, and [frightening](http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=OPtnN0bZQ6lbvM&tbnid=qwgeNLAyCRQNGM:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fallthatspam.blogspot.com%2F2013%2F01%2Fresistance-is-futile-you-will-be.html&ei=imP6UcDEFILU9ATS04H4Aw&psig=AFQjCNF3xOg5puhzkalNJDmkZpb8xtImrg&ust=1375450378401102) at the same time. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/107 "2013-08-01T18:22:19Z")
It sounds like you’re going through a lot of stress, and Facebook is the closest target to channel out all that frustration. Channel away. I hope you start feeling better soon. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/108 "2013-08-01T18:42:29Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > It sounds like you’re going through a lot of stress, and Facebook is the closest target to channel out all that frustration. Channel away. I hope you start feeling better soon. I hear Facebook is a great place to air your grievances - maybe the OP could vent his rage there… ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/109 "2013-08-01T20:31:27Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > You don’t need to assume or guess anything about me or my life in order to discuss Facebook. You’ve been asked to clarify several times, you won’t. I think I’ve got a fair idea of where the communication problem truly lies. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/110 "2013-08-01T20:32:08Z")
No one has asked me to “clarify” anything. There have been some assumptions made about my personal character and relationships that are entirely irrelevant to the subject. If you have an argument to make, you’re going to have to do it without any personal information about my life. If it turns out that you are unable to make an argument without ad hominem attacks, then it’s clear to me that you have nothing of value to say. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/111 "2013-08-01T20:43:37Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > No, I think Max’s analogy to someone without an email address is far more apt than someone just being on a different mobile network. For a lot of people, their primary communication tool is Facebook - and for them, utilizing a different medium just for one hold out is an inconvenience. (I’m not even sure how someone being on a different mobile network is an inconvenience.) That person should expect that they will be left off a number of communications. it can be more expensive to send messages or call on different networks, cross network minutes or texts may not be part of your plan. Anyhow, I’ve just found out that Facebook messages can be sent to emails, so what exactly is the problem again? ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/112 "2013-08-01T20:56:17Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > No one has asked me to “clarify” anything. There have been some assumptions made about my personal character and relationships that are entirely irrelevant to the subject. > > If you have an argument to make, you’re going to have to do it without any personal information about my life. > > If it turns out that you are unable to make an argument without ad hominem attacks, then it’s clear to me that you have nothing of value to say. Go back to my responses, reread, digest, comprehend, respond. You won’t, that’s fine. You don’t have to but it just looks childish frankly. I ask clear questions to better understand why your friends position annoys you and inconveniences you so much but you won’t answer. Well if your standard of discussion here is anything to go by then your friends are better off not knowing what you have to say. As am I. Participation over. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/113 "2013-08-01T21:08:17Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > it can be more expensive to send messages or call on different networks, cross network minutes or texts may not be part of your plan. Meh. No, someone who refuses to use email is still the better analogy. > [@](#): > > Anyhow, I’ve just found out that Facebook messages can be sent to emails, so what exactly is the problem again? The problem remains. Communicating back and forth via individual messages isn’t the only function of Facebook. Additionally, the only way to send a message to an outside email address is via the Messages. Which excludes event planning via Events, which seems to me one of the primary purposes the OP needs to be on Facebook _for_. And the larger the group, the larger the pain in the ass it is to splinter off who gets what message which way. But here’s the deal - no one uses Facebook exclusively (well, there might be a very small percentage, but I’m not aware of anyone who does). And in the majority of social circles, people will communicate via any number of media, including both email and Facebook. Opting out of any one of those isn’t opting out of the group - but it IS opting out of whatever conversation is taking place on that medium. And it’s my opinion that it’s more of a burden for the one opting out to ask the collective group to adapt to that one person’s choice than it is for the collective group to ask the one opting out to adapt to the group’s choice. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/114 "2013-08-01T21:09:09Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Go back to my responses, reread, digest, comprehend, respond. > > You won’t, that’s fine. You don’t have to but it just looks childish frankly. I ask clear questions to better understand why your friends position annoys you and inconveniences you so much but you won’t answer. > > Well if your standard of discussion here is anything to go by then your friends are better off not knowing what you have to say. As am I. Participation over. So now you decide it’s appropriate to be condescending and obnoxious. You don’t need to understand my personal relationships in order to understand my comments about a social phenomenon. Whether what I have said about Facebook is true or false can be judged with zero personal information about me. They are in terms that apply generally to society at large. So don’t pretend that I am frustrating your attempts at rational discussion by refusing to answer relevant questions. If you have a point, you can make it without such intrusions. And I might add, your ongoing insults don’t strengthen your case. I might advise you to try engaging without doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Sodalite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@Sodalite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sodalite)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/115 "2013-08-02T07:18:07Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > I don’t care that you don’t use FB for yourself, your own page or fake ID page can be the minimum bare bones to the highest security setting of “not make my name searchable by google” and “only friends of friends can find me”. > > But your club, of which you are an officer, will probably benefit from such a page. They do have a webpage, right? Then why not a FB page that can be relatively more easily updated with news and information relevant to the club? > > If you do not want to deal with that aspect of your mentorship, delegate it to someone else, stat. Explain that you don’t care for it yourself, but that it may be useful for others and the club, and may persist long after you’re gone as a mentor. I think maybe you misunderstood the OP. The club has a Facebook page. I am not in charge of the page and never have been. Actually, the club has two, but the student who started the first one didn’t leave the info for anybody else and now we can’t do anything with it. I had to get a Facebook page just to be able to read what is on our current group page. That’s what started the rant. The annoyance of being backed into a corner and feeling forced to do something I really did not want to do. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/116 "2013-08-02T12:44:03Z")
> [@Sodalite](#): > > I think maybe you misunderstood the OP. The club has a Facebook page. I am not in charge of the page and never have been. Actually, the club has two, but the student who started the first one didn’t leave the info for anybody else and now we can’t do anything with it. I had to get a Facebook page just to be able to read what is on our current group page. That’s what started the rant. The annoyance of being backed into a corner and feeling forced to do something I really did not want to do. Ah, gotcha. 🙂 I thought since you mentioned you did a lot of the work for the club, that the keeping the FB page also fell on your shoulders (as it fell on mine). But it seems that the club is moving more towards the FB page use, and you have to get a FB for yourself so that you can keep up to date with the club doings, is that so? ---
**Author:** ![Sodalite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@Sodalite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sodalite)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/117 "2013-08-02T14:40:47Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Ah, gotcha. 🙂 I thought since you mentioned you did a lot of the work for the club, that the keeping the FB page also fell on your shoulders (as it fell on mine). But it seems that the club is moving more towards the FB page use, and you have to get a FB for yourself so that you can keep up to date with the club doings, is that so? Yes, that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/118 "2013-08-02T22:43:23Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > These are things of little consequence and of minor or no interest to many people. > but you assuming that everyone finds them interesting and must be open to receiving them. That just isn’t the case and many people found their physical precursors, the christmas round-robin letters, just as annoying. Seems fairly presumptuous of you to tell me what people I know do or do not enjoy. However, since all of these people are, in fact, on Facebook, and actively using it, and at least some times commenting on other people’s posts, there’s pretty strong evidence that they do in fact enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![slm2955](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@slm2955](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slm2955)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/119 "2013-08-02T22:49:38Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Ah, gotcha. 🙂 I thought since you mentioned you did a lot of the work for the club, that the keeping the FB page also fell on your shoulders (as it fell on mine). But it seems that the club is moving more towards the FB page use, and you have to get a FB for yourself so that you can keep up to date with the club doings, is that so? What if someone simply doesn’t want an fb? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/120 "2013-08-03T00:21:56Z")
Well then, you’re going to have to accept the fact that you might not be as informed with the rest of the group. As noted before, maintaining a webpage takes a lot of time and work, as opposed to Facebook. It’s a lot more practical. If a person has certain duties, they may have to work with the resources provided, if they don’t like them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950.md?page=7)