# FUCK! Fucking Facebook. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950 "2013-07-30T21:34:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/121 "2013-08-03T01:29:31Z")
If you’re not in charge on maintaining the FB page, but, OTOH, your effort is needed for running the group, someone else (I’m guessing the one who maintains the FB page), should at least give you the heads up of important things and going ons. I do know, that even with keeping the FB page, there were some who rarely used FB, and whose presence or help I needed. When that was the case, I used alternate methods to communicate with them, and made sure they got the message. ---
**Author:** ![Sodalite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@Sodalite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sodalite)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/122 "2013-08-03T07:01:26Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > If you’re not in charge on maintaining the FB page, but, OTOH, your effort is needed for running the group, someone else (I’m guessing the one who maintains the FB page), should at least give you the heads up of important things and going ons. > > I do know, that even with keeping the FB page, there were some who rarely used FB, and whose presence or help I needed. When that was the case, I used alternate methods to communicate with them, and made sure they got the message. Right. Normally, I would never have been short of info on the club’s activities because I was at every meeting. Until last year, when my immune system crapped out on me again, I had only missed three meetings in fifteen years. This year I found out why my immune system went kaput. I’m full of tumors again. After an ambulance ride in agony and a lot of tests, I found out there were 6-7 tumors, two of them very large, on my liver. The biggest one had ripped loose a bit and was bleeding into the sac around my liver. Worst pain ever. I had a biopsy done and the oncologist at my local hospital told me I had cancer again. He said there was nothing they could do there and transferred me to the bigger city hospital an hour away. There, they told me I didn’t have cancer. I have [hepatocellular adenomas.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatocellular_adenoma) Not cancer (yet) but still potentially fatal. They were only able to remove the two largest ones so I’m still full of tumors. I missed the end of Spring and all of Summer semester. We have a mailing list that all major announcements are supposed to go out on. Our old president, who was very good at keeping up with it, graduated this Spring. New pres missed a couple of important updates. Now that I have Facebook I can see that they didn’t go up on there, either. Before I had a page I couldn’t see everything and couldn’t tell one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/123 "2013-08-03T14:05:37Z")
I’m sorry that you have to deal with these serious health issues. But what does any of that have to do with Facebook? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/124 "2013-08-04T00:05:58Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I’m sorry that you have to deal with these serious health issues. But what does any of that have to do with Facebook? There are Facebook pages offering support and information on a wide range of medical issues. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/125 "2013-08-04T03:33:07Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > There are Facebook pages offering support and information on a wide range of medical issues. So, the OP who titled the thread “FUCK! Fucking Facebook” is trying to tell us that Facebook has offered him a lot of support for his health problems? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/126 "2013-08-04T11:49:17Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > So, the OP who titled the thread “FUCK! Fucking Facebook” is trying to tell us that Facebook has offered him a lot of support for his health problems? He’s apparently torn. ---
**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/127 "2013-08-04T12:24:05Z")
> [@DummyGladHands](#): > > Another intensely private person-so how does one sign on to FB with an alias? FB says, “Give us your name.” You give them _a_ name, it just isn’t _yours_. You are technically breaking the user agreement, but the odds of them finding you out and deleting your account are minuscule - they mostly go after spammers for this. Email/call/send smoke signals to your friends telling them your alias, add them as friends on FB, set your privacy settings to max, and don’t post any pics of yourself. Not that I would know this from experience or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/128 "2013-08-04T13:45:11Z")
> [@Sodalite](#): > > Right. Normally, I would never have been short of info on the club’s activities because I was at every meeting. Until last year, when my immune system crapped out on me again, I had only missed three meetings in fifteen years. This year I found out why my immune system went kaput. I’m full of tumors again. After an ambulance ride in agony and a lot of tests, I found out there were 6-7 tumors, two of them very large, on my liver. The biggest one had ripped loose a bit and was bleeding into the sac around my liver. Worst pain ever. I had a biopsy done and the oncologist at my local hospital told me I had cancer again. He said there was nothing they could do there and transferred me to the bigger city hospital an hour away. There, they told me I didn’t have cancer. I have [hepatocellular adenomas.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatocellular_adenoma) Not cancer (yet) but still potentially fatal. They were only able to remove the two largest ones so I’m still full of tumors. > > I missed the end of Spring and all of Summer semester. We have a mailing list that all major announcements are supposed to go out on. Our old president, who was very good at keeping up with it, graduated this Spring. New pres missed a couple of important updates. Now that I have Facebook I can see that they didn’t go up on there, either. Before I had a page I couldn’t see everything and couldn’t tell one way or the other. I am sorry for your health issues. I hope you get better. I am baffled as to what that has to do with Facebook. It seems to me your argument boils down to something you posted up thread… > [@](#): > > Now we get to the one of the problem aspects of Facebook and part of why I hate is so much. I don’t want to need it. (emphasis mine) You said early on the reasons for your hate were “complicated” but didn’t elaborate. It appears you just didn’t want to say you hated progress. Having kept up with this thread, I’m just not seeing FB as being the bad guy. It’s just normal human progress. Do you have an anonymous phone number? Do you wish the phone company would just let you listen in to other conversations without signing up? I don’t like the way FB is used by the majority of my friends. I don’t care what they are eating or where they are every second of every day. I HATE religious glurges that are passed around. But, I enjoy the ease of communicating with friends and family about matters that I do care about. Despite my general dislike of Facebook, it’s very easy to make it work for me. I even use my real name. I just don’t blog and don’t posts pics. I block annoying forwards (not de-friend) and no one is the wiser. And complaints about spending too much time in front of a glowing screen are silly. Real letters and phone calls take way much more time. Feel free to rant away (though I’m surprised you can justify using a message board) but I still believe your gripe is progress and technology - not Facebook. I’ll stay off of your lawn. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/129 "2013-08-04T17:12:41Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Go back to my responses, reread, digest, comprehend, respond. > > You won’t, that’s fine. You don’t have to but it just looks childish frankly. I ask clear questions to better understand why your friends position annoys you and inconveniences you so much but you won’t answer. > > Well if your standard of discussion here is anything to go by then your friends are better off not knowing what you have to say. As am I. Participation over. Damn, you are fucking stupid! The only “question” you asked was a FUCKING INSULT. You insinuated that he didn’t have any real friends. You were the one who insulted him about being on Facebook, so he gave what he got. Stop lying and saying you actually asked him a question. Maybe the people you generally interact with are that stupid, but we aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/130 "2013-08-04T17:35:55Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Now this is what gets me. We not only can not be on Facebook and just deal with the repercussions; we _have_ to be on Facebook or we are anti-social, assholish Luddites. > > No facebook for me. I tried it, it didn’t do it for me, it was annoying as hell. That’s my choice. I understand the repercussions and still don’t want it. Amazing, isn’t it? If you still keep in contact with your friends without Facebook, then, sure, you’re not anti-social. And I think that, in context, that’s what everyone else is saying. Remember, all of this is a response to someone saying that Facebook is horrible, despite having an actual reason to use Facebook. As for being a Luddite, that depends on why you aren’t on Facebook. For example, if someone uses another site instead, they can hardly be called a Luddite. They’re ahead of the curve. As for you, it would depend on why you don’t like it. If I had to guess, whatever part you didn’t like could be turned off or otherwise avoided. Heck, you don’t ever even have to go to the site if all you want to do is have a quick way to send messages to people. And, this is pertinent to the OP so I’ll emphasize it– **you can disable the ability for people to add you** (unless they are friends with someone who is friends with you). And **you can disable the ability for anyone to find you via email**. It’s all in the Privacy settings at the top of the page. As for being an asshole: That only applies to those people who insult people who use Facebook, claiming they don’t have any real friends because their only method of contacting them is via that website. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/131 "2013-08-04T17:54:28Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Damn, you are fucking stupid! The only “question” you asked was a FUCKING INSULT. You insinuated that he didn’t have any real friends. You were the one who insulted him about being on Facebook, so he gave what he got. > > Stop lying and saying you actually asked him a question. Maybe the people you generally interact with are that stupid, but we aren’t. Well I suppose I can’t resist an open goal and I do like it when people expose their difficulty with simple comprehension. This was the totality of my first response to Ascenray > [@](#): > > Why put it such pejorative terms? > At some point in the past you must have had another means of communicating that worked well enough so why make it seem like it is their fault? > You’ve decided to use a new mode of communication and it is annoying because they haven’t followed suit? > > If this is an issue for you then you have to ask yourself if they are really friends at all. Insult about being on facebook? nope. Insinuation of having no friends? nope. Only question a “FUCKING INSULT” nope. You may even be able to count the questions if you try real hard (and there are more in other replies all equally non-insulting) I hope you can see that none of what you claim holds up. This is why I suggested to Ascenray to go back and re-read. You really should’ve done the same. That is beauty of the message board. Everyone can see when you just flat-out make shit up. I asked reasonable questions, multiple times in a perfectly reasonable way to better understand why he was so annoyed with these two friends. Ascenray chose to ignore them, as have you. It’s why I stopped responding to him and you can now feel honoured to have the same treatment. Cheerio. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/132 "2013-08-04T18:14:56Z")
Additional advice for the OP: don’t put a pic that shows you and without an email, no one will know for sure who you are. I know I don’t add people if I can’t see if it’s actually them. Facebook will penalize you for adding people you don’t actually know. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/133 "2013-08-04T18:19:25Z")
All together now: Shut up, **BigTard**! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sodalite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@Sodalite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sodalite)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/134 "2013-08-05T11:58:16Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I’m sorry that you have to deal with these serious health issues. But what does any of that have to do with Facebook? I need to keep up with what goes on in the club. Normally, I’m at the meetings so that isn’t a problem. I got sick and could not go to meetings. I still need to keep up with what goes on in the club. Updates that should have been sent were not sent. I went looking for them on the club’s Facebastard page. I could only see everything on the page if I had one, too. I don’t want a Facebook page. I hate Facebook. I very unhappily break down and get a Facebook page to make sure that what needs to be done is getting done. I hate feeling obligated, pushed, trapped, or otherwise made to do things I don’t want to do. Unfortunately, life is full of that kind of crap. Now I have a Facebook page. I hate Facebook. I write a post declaring my hatred in The BBQ Pit. Things go all weird. **White SIFL** , what the hell man, really? > [@](#): > > Now we get to the **one** of the problem aspects of Facebook and **part of** why I hate is so much. You see the words I emphasized there? How do you pick that as part of a quote that, I guess, you were trying to use to prove your point and then just ignore it? > [@](#): > > It appears you just didn’t want to say you hated progress. Sure. There’s really only one reason and that’s why I made sure to state that the thing you picked out is just a small piece of the hate pie. The OP was a declaration of dislike. I didn’t ask anybody to agree or disagree with me. I hate something and felt like yelling about it. To be honest, I never thought there would be any responses, because I couldn’t believe that anybody would care about another “I hate Facebook” rant. I expected to be ignored but you people keep surprising me. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/135 "2013-08-05T14:17:09Z")
When I don’t want or expect responses to things, I write them in this thing called a journal. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/136 "2013-08-05T14:58:55Z")
> [@Sodalite](#): > > I need to keep up with what goes on in the club. > Normally, I’m at the meetings so that isn’t a problem. > I got sick and could not go to meetings. > I still need to keep up with what goes on in the club. > Updates that should have been sent were not sent. > I went looking for them on the club’s Facebastard page. > I could only see everything on the page if I had one, too. > I don’t want a Facebook page. I hate Facebook. > I very unhappily break down and get a Facebook page to make sure that what needs to be done is getting done. > I hate feeling obligated, pushed, trapped, or otherwise made to do things I don’t want to do. > Unfortunately, life is full of that kind of crap. > Now I have a Facebook page. I hate Facebook. > I write a post declaring my hatred in The BBQ Pit. > Things go all weird. Health issues aside (and I think those would be a better subject for a rant), have you tried to look at this from the perspective of other club members? They know there’s this old sick dude who’s kind of the club’s Elder, who’s been around for fuckall knows how many years. He’s kind of angry at everyone else for not being as involved in the club as him. And he’s not a barrel of positive energy, either: although he might try to hide his burning rage at almost everything in the world, everyone in the club knows about it. Then he leaves for a few months to take care of some health issues. Someone proposes that they start keeping track of things with Facebook, since that’s what everyone except the grognard uses. Even if they know the grognard doesn’t like Facebook, they figure he can get over it, set up an anonymous account if it bothers him so much. Now the elder grognard is full of rage, and they’re confused. I’m seeing the cause for rage when it comes to horrific tumors and injured wrists etc. But the rage at Facebook is 100% misplaced. This club has found a form of organization that works well for almost everyone, and your reasons for not wanting to use it are not valid (it’s trivially easy to set up your account to avoid high school assholes–set it up under the name Grognard P. Applesauce and you’re golden). ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/137 "2013-08-06T03:58:49Z")
\*Bored men, who in frustration click links just to look At more pics and jokes just like yesterday’s, Rage, Rage against the tedious Facebook. And you, dear **Sodalite** , whose complaints have been mistook, Curse, bless, us now with your fierce tears, always. Do not put up with teenaged gobbledy-gook. Rage, Rage against the tedious Facebook.\* (Apologies to Dylan Thomas.) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/138 "2013-08-06T12:05:12Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > \*Bored men, who in frustration click links just to look > At more pics and jokes just like yesterday’s, > Rage, Rage against the tedious Facebook. > > And you, dear **Sodalite** , whose complaints have been mistook, > Curse, bless, us now with your fierce tears, always. > Do not put up with teenaged gobbledy-gook. > Rage, Rage against the tedious Facebook.\* > > (Apologies to Dylan Thomas.) _I saw the best minds of the Dope destroyed by Facebook, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the status updates of Friends looking for an angry fix, Poke-minded hipsters burning for a timeline connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of Menlo Park._ (I’m not apologizing.) ---
**Author:** ![Girlundone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Girlundone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girlundone)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/139 "2013-08-06T17:49:22Z")
[QUOTE=BigT] Facebook will penalize you for adding people you don’t actually know. [/QUOTE] Penalize me? In what way? A fine, a ticket, no dessert after dinner? How does FB know whether I know someone or not? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950/140 "2013-08-06T17:53:57Z")
> [@Girlundone](#): > > Penalize me? In what way? A fine, a ticket, no dessert after dinner? How does FB know whether I know someone or not? (That’s one of the reason people tell him to shut up) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-fucking-facebook/664950.md?page=8)