# Fuck Hamas **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 27, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867 "2008-12-27T19:30:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/241 "2008-12-28T13:58:43Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That’s correct. They are the same. Now go tell Israel that. > > Or do you disagree? Hamas doesn’t seem to care about their own kids. What’d they expect Israel to do? Shrug it off? They knew the result before they fired their first rockets. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/242 "2008-12-28T14:09:38Z")
Hey, I have an idea: Maybe Israel should drag all Jewish settlers out of Gaza. That ought to make Hamas happy and encourage them to be less hostile. Heck, the Jewish settlers could leave their greenhouses intact as a gesture of goodwill towards the folks remaining in Gaza. A gesture that is sure to be returned. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/243 "2008-12-28T14:19:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > And yet, we still got the Cold war, Korea and Vietnam, all as direct result of WWII (and that’s just what involved the US). > > What we did to Japan was one of the greatest atrocities in history, by the way. Every bit as indefensible and evil as 9/11, except, of course, we killed a lot more innocent people. Don’t the Japanese the Germans bare some responsibility for the governments they put up? I mean you don’t just gas, torture, and slowly starve to death 8 million without some popular support. The old German and Japanese governments were pure evil and never should have happened. The Japanese and German people bare full responsibility for not cleaning up their own mess when it did happen. Those evil governments needed to be removed at any cost. If the Japanese didn’t want to be nuked they should have rebelled from the Emperor. The blood of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is on their hands alone. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/244 "2008-12-28T14:26:19Z")
> [@alexandra](#): > > A fair few Americans like to forget that quite a huge factor in the Nazis being defeated were the efforts of those evil Commies. There’s no doubt about that. The point though is that had the USA/UK/Canada not opened up a second front in Europe (since the Nazis were already all the way to the Atlantic Ocean) that Hitler wouldn’t have had to divide his military the way he did, which inevitably led to the Allies (including the Soviets) defeating Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/245 "2008-12-28T14:26:22Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > First of all, you are in the UK, so…you were on our team as an equal partner, right? > > And if we didn’t do it out of the goodness of our hearts, why then? The only other reason would be because Hitler was a very dangerous person and Europe as we know it would have been completely torn asunder if Hitler would have been allowed to rule it. Well, that and the fact that the USA likely would have been next on his list. … Jesus. You are kidding, right? Okay, remember that movie, Pearl Harbour? It actually was based off real… no sorry, I can’t. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/246 "2008-12-28T14:50:26Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > … > > Jesus. You are kidding, right? > Okay, remember that movie, Pearl Harbour? It actually was based off real… no sorry, I can’t. Would you care to enlighten me what Pearl Harbor had to do with the USA’s participation in the European theater (other than delaying it)? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/247 "2008-12-28T16:04:58Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Would you care to enlighten me what Pearl Harbor had to do with the USA’s participation in the European theater (other than delaying it)? America was strongly isolationist before Pearl Harbor. After it we were angry and wanted to kick ass. Plus Germany declared open war on us the day after it happened. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/248 "2008-12-28T16:06:33Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Would you care to enlighten me what Pearl Harbor had to do with the USA’s participation in the European theater (other than delaying it)? As I understand things, Germany and Japan had some kind of treaty which required Germany to declare war on the United States after the Japanese attack. So that the United States had a Casus Belli to participate in Europe. I imagine that military buffs will be along shortly to clear this issue up. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/249 "2008-12-28T16:39:08Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That’s correct. They are the same. Now go tell Israel that. > > Or do you disagree? Okay, let’s make a deal. I’ll stand in front of the Knesset with a sign that says “Killing Palestinian Children is Wrong” while you stand in front of the Hamas headquarters with a sign that reads “Killing Israeli Children is Wrong”. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/250 "2008-12-28T16:42:04Z")
Are you paying the expenses? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/251 "2008-12-28T16:44:34Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Hamas doesn’t seem to care about their own kids. What’d they expect Israel to do? Shrug it off? They knew the result before they fired their first rockets. Israel doesn’t seem to care about its own kids. What do you expect Hamas to do, shrug this off? When has this kind of reprisal ever _stopped_ rocket attacks? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/252 "2008-12-28T16:49:00Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > When has this kind of reprisal ever _stopped_ rocket attacks? Recently worked up in Lebanon. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/253 "2008-12-28T16:49:55Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Israel doesn’t seem to care about its own kids. What do you expect Hamas to do, shrug this off? When has this kind of reprisal ever _stopped_ rocket attacks? Who broke the ceasefire. Israel or Hamas? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/254 "2008-12-28T16:53:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Israel doesn’t seem to care about its own kids. What do you expect Hamas to do, shrug this off? When has this kind of reprisal ever _stopped_ rocket attacks? 1. Or has London been hit by any V-2s lately? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/255 "2008-12-28T16:58:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Are you paying the expenses? They’ll likely be funeral expenses you know. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/256 "2008-12-28T16:59:35Z")
Oh, I see. So THIS time, Hamas will get the message and accept Israel stealing Palestinian land and all will be right with the world. Ok. Whatever. I’m glad I don’t live there. As far as I’m concerned it’s just one mob of self-righteous fanatics fighting another. Why they even WANT that piece of asscrack-shaped desert is beyond me. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/257 "2008-12-28T17:00:52Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > They’ll likely be funeral expenses you know. I would be fine. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/258 "2008-12-28T17:01:55Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > 1. Or has London been hit by any V-2s lately? In ISRAEL. When have Israeli attacks against Palestinian civilians ever stopped Palestinian violence against Israeli civilians? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/259 "2008-12-28T17:03:20Z")
When has anything else? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/260 "2008-12-28T17:05:27Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Are you paying the expenses? Are you saying that if somebody came up with the airfare and hotel fare for you to travel to Damascus and do this, you really would? I have a hard time believing that anyone would take such a serious risk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867.md?page=14)