# Fuck Hamas **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 27, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867 "2008-12-27T19:30:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/21 "2008-12-27T20:23:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor \*\* > \ > Originally Posted by** DanBlather \*\* > They are the worst (EUers) . The only reason they can be pro-Palestinian is because they know the US will protect Israel. Othewise they’d have to deal with a second round of holocaust guilt. Generalise much? Fuck you \*\*Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor \*\* and fuck you too \*\* DanBlather \*\* you pair of simple fucking wankers, I assume that the pair of you are drunk out of your skulls, I would have said minds - but it is patently clear that that the pair of you were conjoined at birth and when you were separated something fell out and got left on the operating room floor. I have seen a few trolls here, taken a while to shake you out though. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/22 "2008-12-27T20:29:24Z")
So, lets say that the US stopped it’s aid to Israel and declined to be involved in any military activity in the mid-East. What \*would \*the EU do: Let Israel be wiped off the map by it’s neighbors? Pick up the American slack and aid Israel? ??? ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/23 "2008-12-27T20:30:17Z")
> [@Kal](#): > > That is uncalled for. I suggest a strongly worded letter to his father, informing him of his son’s bad language and anti-European bigotry. That should see young Bosda sent to bed without supper every night for a month. Actually I feel a little bad about saying what I said to Bosda - he doesn’t need or deserve that kind of knee-jerk vitriol, so sorry Bosda man. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/24 "2008-12-27T20:48:55Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > So either declare war on Israel and get your ass kicked, or do something that might actually advance your cause like a non-violent work stoppage and boycott, but this practice of lobbing rockets at Israel along with the occasional suicide bombing has got to stop. Do you think that Hamas is devoid of logic ? The primary cause of Hamas is to follow the tenets of their interpretation of their religion, which includes no accomadation with the Jews and strive for their destruction. An all out war would obviously end that objective. Besides, the sacrifice they endure to keep this up will count for them when they reach paradise. They know what they are doing. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/25 "2008-12-27T20:53:03Z")
Oh, it seems I am an anti-semite. Who woulda thought? Do I have to do anything? ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/26 "2008-12-27T20:59:33Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > Oh, it seems I am an anti-semite. Who woulda thought? > > Do I have to do anything? Ireland didn’t do anything in WWII, why start now? ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/27 "2008-12-27T21:13:13Z")
So not only am I an anti-semite, it also turns out that I AM Ireland. I thought I was just this guy, what a day of surprises! ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/28 "2008-12-27T21:17:47Z")
> [@DCTrekkie](#): > > Israelis may all be jewish … This will come as surprising news to the thousands of Arabs who are citizens of Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/29 "2008-12-27T21:26:45Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > Ireland didn’t do anything in WWII, why start now? The Government of Ireland perhaps didn’t exactly want an active part in the war, and there are reasons for much of that, but there were _many_ Irishmen who volunteered to fight as part of the British Army, and many others who worked for bodies like the Red Cross and in the Merchant Marine etc. The UK/Ireland relationship is a long and complex and entangled one, and even nowadays the British Army recruits Irish citizens. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/30 "2008-12-27T21:35:29Z")
**Struan** > [@](#): > > Actually I feel a little bad about saying what I said to Bosda - he doesn’t need or deserve that kind of knee-jerk vitriol, so sorry Bosda man. You are far more charitable than I. He acts like a fucking twat, he gets called on it. His comment was that of a twat, therefore he is a twat unless he decides to criticise the real object of his ire, which is not people who happen to live in Europe. What on earth is in the cuntface’s head? An disagreement with one faction who is directly responsible for the strife, so he decides to bring in, completely unprompted and with no reason whatsoever, another party that has nothing at all to do with it. How to win friends and influence people, what a fucking dolt you are **Bosda** ---
**Author:** ![Jaglavak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85f322/32.png) [@Jaglavak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaglavak)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/31 "2008-12-27T21:37:40Z")
To prevent further offense on an obviously sensitive topic, let us draw a clear line between the populace and it’s government. My comments are mostly directed toward governments. It’s been clear to me since the failed Camp David accord nearly 30 years ago, that the extreme factions of the Palestinians will settle for nothing less than the destruction of Israel. There could be peace, prosperity, and freedom in the region by now if they were willing to stop the butchering. But no. Given that, Israel has every right to defend itself. The tragedy is all of the regular folks who are caught in the middle. Entire lifetimes are wasted waiting for a resolution. This will continue until the majority of the population turns against violence. Any solution must be based firmly on the bedrock of Palestinians policing themselves to prevent attacks. But the large numbers of idle young men and the inflammatory hate speech that passes as sermons makes this unlikely. The US will continue to support Israel because it needs an ally in the region, and because of the strong Jewish vote. In the end, Israel and Palestine will work it out mostly between themselves. I suspect it will go on for centuries. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/32 "2008-12-27T21:42:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Ireland didn’t do anything in WWII, why start now? We blew the bugle twice and you fuckers still don’t hear it for two years, both times. Fucking dickhead. It may have escaped your notice but nations do things they believe is in their interest, Ireland decided to stay out of it, you lot decided to fucking turn up late, when all the action and dust had settled. I wonder if you have ever fought for your country, I wonder if you have any idea, just wave the fucking flag and let others do the dirty work for you, fucking hate cunts like you. Patriots who shout loud and hide in a corner crying when the bullets start flying. Yeah, you sure have the freedom to have a big mouth and act like a twat, I wonder who won that right for you? Everyone has that right to be a loudmouthed arsehole, go suck my dick, maybe your gob is big enough. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/33 "2008-12-27T21:43:57Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > For some reason, I think it’s been US gov’t policy to wring our hands and whisper, “Now, play nice.” What I don’t understand is why Israel doesn’t tell us “Screw you” and do what they need to do. Because we give them billions of dollars every year. That’s why. ---
**Author:** ![DCTrekkie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dctrekkie/32/18862_2.png) [@DCTrekkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCTrekkie)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/34 "2008-12-27T21:45:50Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > This will come as surprising news to the thousands of Arabs who are citizens of Israel. oops, sorry that should be mostly jewish. Although he was presumably referring to the jewish residents, otherwise theres even less reason to call people anti-semitic ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/35 "2008-12-27T21:50:31Z")
Since it’s obvious by now that Hamas **is not going away and can’t be marginalized,** why won’t the Israelis just treat with them, and promise to accept the results of any election that returns a Hamas government for the PA? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/36 "2008-12-27T21:53:22Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > For some reason, I think it’s been US gov’t policy to wring our hands and whisper, “Now, play nice.” What I don’t understand is why Israel doesn’t tell us “Screw you” and do what they need to do. What they need to do is either (1) annex the Territories outright and extend Israeli citizenship and voting rights to all Palestinians, or (2) implement a real two-state solution and clear all Israeli settlers out of the WB, everywhere east of the Green Line, and withdraw the IDF from any attempt to control Palestine or its borders with states other than Israel. One or the other. The status quo sux, for both parties. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/37 "2008-12-27T21:56:15Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > IMO, Israel should have wiped them out a long time ago. Not sure why they’ve pussy-footed around. Those thoughts belong in the mind of no Libertarian. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/38 "2008-12-27T22:02:46Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > This will come as surprising news to the thousands of Arabs who are citizens of Israel. You left out the term “second-class” in that statement, but otherwise, correct. Oh, and to the OP, fuck off. Not because of the OP itself, which I don’t really take issue with, but your subsequent posts were crusty turd tracks. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/39 "2008-12-27T22:07:36Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Since it’s obvious by now that Hamas **is not going away and can’t be marginalized,** why won’t the Israelis just treat with them, and promise to accept the results of any election that returns a Hamas government for the PA? Because Hamas is not interested in peace with Israel. Hamas is not interested in ending the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians with Israel still in existance. Hamas has nothing to offer Israel. Why should Israel treat with them? ---
**Author:** ![mudkicker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@mudkicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mudkicker)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867/40 "2008-12-27T22:08:07Z")
Casdave, people/nations can ‘choose not to hear the bugle call’ because they are pacifists, because they can’t afford the massive amount of money needed for a war, or because they’re not poodles who roll over and copy everything another country does. Ireland had and has every right to stay neutral in any conflict, just as Britain had and has every right not to. As for sucking your dick, my gob may be big enough, but I doubt your dick is. As to Palestine/Israel/Hamas, I too get tired of the attitude that anyone criticising Israel only does so for anti-semetic reasons, or because we’re all a bunch of EU liberals. Objecting to civilians getting murdered while going about their day? What an anti Jewish handwringing European bunch of pussies we are! (And yes, my RO on blowing up civilians extends to Hamas as well.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-hamas/478867.md?page=3)