# Fuck Kristi "Puppy Killer" Noem (descriptions of animal cruelty in OP)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [April 27, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808 "2024-04-27T00:22:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/301 "2024-04-30T02:12:20Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Very small as a segment of both the voting and book buying public, and

Hell, I suspect the Venn diagram of “RWNJs who support puppy-shooting” and “people reading any book that isn’t a picture book” is a nearly-complete lack of intersection.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/302 "2024-04-30T02:12:38Z")

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Exactly.

That poster uses a broad brush to paint all country folk with.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/303 "2024-04-30T02:19:03Z")

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Again: people, stop trying to make it make sense, you’ll strain something.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/304 "2024-04-30T02:20:01Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I’m having flashbacks to _No Country for Old Men._

Do you think Kristi went up to Pickle  
“You know what date is on this coin?”

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/305 "2024-04-30T03:42:40Z")

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I glanced at the thread title in my unread posts and thought what a singularly unappealing prospect it would be.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/306 "2024-04-30T04:10:26Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> “the Governor, with the Shotgun, in the Gravel Pit” – worst game of Clue ever.

I guess that’s why it wasn’t [posted in this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-make-some-fandom-clue-do-editions/994075)

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> What is wrong with the people who vote for politicians like this?  
> How do they keep justifying it?

“They’re better than the dems.” That’s their mantra and it won’t ever change.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/307 "2024-04-30T04:14:13Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> “Where’s Cricket?”

It’s like the polar opposite of “Checkers.”

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/308 "2024-04-30T04:33:49Z")

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I just want to say I think this incident is another signpost down the road of insanity the MAGAT’S are taking the country’s politics. Whether or not Noem pays a political price for this we now have a mainstream Republican candidate telling puppy killer stories. Officially. In books and everything, and attempting to then defend that story. And all Democrats have to do to campaign against that is post pictures of their cute doggies. That Overton window just keeps getting yanked on harder each time.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/309 "2024-04-30T12:58:57Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Some faction in the MAGAverse hates her.

Well, yeah; some MAGAts clearly hate everyone who isn’t Trump. Even each other – just look at Michigan.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/310 "2024-04-30T13:23:19Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Granted that Mike Pence is not nearly as sympathetic as a puppy, but Trump & his supporters seem just fine with erecting a gallows outside the Capitol and threatening to execute him.
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> Trump nearly illegally seized power in a violent coup on Jan 6th and is still polling at 40%.
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> Greg Abbott put razor-edged barriers in the Rio Grande to kill immigrants entering the country, and conservatives are hollering for more of it.
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> Y’all may want to take a tiny step back and ask if DIY pet euthanasia is really the political dream-killer you think it is

The naivete here is not realizing that in the real world 2024 none of those things are remotely as fatal to a political career as puppy murder. Yeah, you can argue they definitely should be, but that’s not the world we live in. In 2024 America there is almost nothing that politician could do, short of shooting a toddler in the head, that would be worse than that

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/311 "2024-04-30T13:26:46Z")

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> [@griffin1977](#):
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> short of shooting a toddler in the head

‘He was coming right at me!’

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/312 "2024-04-30T13:34:28Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > [@griffin1977](#):
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> > short of shooting a toddler in the head
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> ‘He was coming right at me!’.

If your kids are playing in the yard and 30-50 wild toddlers come over the fence in 3-5 minutes, what are you gonna do?

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/313 "2024-04-30T14:17:37Z")

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I have to think that her being incompetent at killing the animals can’t help her, even among people who routinely kill animals.

(I have a friend who used to kill his own dogs when they were old and sick and suffering, rather than take them to the vet to do it. He gave them a nice final meal, in the back yard, where they were comfortable, and while they were eating, he put a bullet through the base of the brain at close range. Quick and painless, no fear, not too much mess, either. That’s the way you kill your animal with a gun.)

This all makes me think she’s a distraction.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/314 "2024-04-30T14:20:31Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> If your kids are playing in the yard and 30-50 wild toddlers come over the fence in 3-5 minutes, what are you gonna do?

Which begs the question: in a battle between an average healthy unarmed adult and 50 angry toddlers, who would win?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/315 "2024-04-30T14:21:08Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> If your kids are playing in the yard and 30-50 wild toddlers come over the fence in 3-5 minutes, what are you gonna do?

That’s why I always carry my AR-15 with extra mags. You just never know when some shit is going down.

As for rural thoughts on animals. I knew some farmers that would beat their animals just because they didn’t move fast enough. Some of us thought of them as “not right in the head”. I also knew farmers missing fingers because they knew better and couldn’t be bothered to follow no sissy liberal rules about turning off the corn picker before reaching in to unclog it. Not everyone was like that.

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> This all makes me think she’s a distraction.

Occam’s Razor;

She’s a cruel psycopath with no understanding or empathy, and also really shitty at handling firearms.

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> (I have a friend who used to kill his own dogs when they were old and sick and suffering, rather than take them to the vet to do it. He gave them a nice final meal, in the back yard, where they were comfortable, and while they were eating, he put a bullet through the base of the brain at close range. Quick and painless, no fear, not too much mess, either. That’s the way you kill your animal with a gun.)

Holy shit, I would not be a good farm person.

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I also knew farmers missing fingers because they knew better and couldn’t be bothered to follow no sissy liberal rules about turning off the corn picker before reaching in to unclog it.

That’s a good way to lose not only fingers but your arm or your life. PTO-attached equipment will pull you right in, and doesn’t care that you don’t fit – at least, you don’t fit in your original shape.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> He gave them a nice final meal, in the back yard, where they were comfortable, and while they were eating, he put a bullet through the base of the brain at close range. Quick and painless, no fear, not too much mess, either. That’s the way you kill your animal with a gun.

Yeah. Aside from not being in its own back yard (though it seemed comfortable enough) that’s how they killed the goat in my description above. That’s knowing how to do it.

I can understand somebody who does know how to do it deciding to kill their own dog that way, when they really did have good reason to end the dog’s life. Noem, of course, didn’t meet either of those standards.

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Let’s focus on the positives here.

This incident means Trump won’t pick Noem as his running mate.

Not being picked will make Noem disappointed and unhappy.

And what does Noem have a self-admitted history of doing to things that make her disappointed and unhappy?

This could end up being a win for America.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> She’s a cruel psycopath with no understanding or empathy, and also **really shitty at handling firearms**.

Which fits the theme: if you cannot be properly trained, it makes that you are no good at training the dog.

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