# Fuck Kristi "Puppy Killer" Noem (descriptions of animal cruelty in OP)

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**Created:** [April 27, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808 "2024-04-27T00:22:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
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Beagles do have the cry of the banshee at times. When they are on the trail, nose to the ground their bugle bark is a beautiful, nostalgic sound. It’s reassuring to the hunter that the dog is doing his job.  
The shrill alarm when they see the prey is terribly ear splitting.  
Beagles generally don’t chase the rabbit. They’re not nearly fast enough to ever catch one. And would probably be scared to touch it. Not a vicious bone in their bodies.

In my experience. I’m sure others have known a bad beagle or two. Inbreeding can turn out neurotic dogs.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/502 "2024-05-05T22:09:31Z")

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When I first got Bob, if he saw a squirrel within fifty yards while were out on a walk he’d practically tear my arm out of socket want to go after him. It took some time and a lot of consistency, but he is really zen around squirrels now. As soon as he sees one he goes into stalk mode, like a pointer. He’ll slowly walk up on the as long as I’m right next to him. The only time he goes after them is when they dart up the tree - then he wishes he could climb.

Also a reminder, I got Bob when he was about 14 months old - about the same age that Noem’s dog was. In the first month I had him he tore through a screen and ran away while I was at work and the cops had to round him for me, he tore down every curtain in my house, he dug several holes in my back yard, he jumped up on a jogger and scratched her arm, he stole food, he chased my cat, he jumped up on me every time I stood up one time slamming his front teeth into my forehead hard enough to draw blood. In short - he was a tough row to hoe. But I committed ferchrissakes and it has worked out beautifully.

Here’s a video I took last year - he’s even better with them now. I’ve called a squirrel to us and had them looking at each other from about a foot and half away from each other.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/hyP6C0w4REs/maxresdefault.jpg "April 2, 2023") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyP6C0w4REs&t=47)

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
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@Jack_Batty and Bob 😉

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SSUXXzN26zg/hqdefault.jpg "SQUIRREL!!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg)

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/504 "2024-05-05T22:46:29Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Noem defended a passage where she seems to suggest Commander should be shot.

At this point Commander Biden’s people are giving POTUS a PowerPoint presentation making the point that the supreme court are about to give him presidential immunity, so he could totally have Seal Team Six take Noem out to the gravel pit and it would be completely legal, Justice Alito said so.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
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Oh Bob. I love hearing he’s doing so well.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
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This should be put on billboards:

[![](https://i.imgur.com/tyd3TuC.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/tyd3TuC.png)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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The publisher is going with they “Hey, take it up with her, not us” approach;

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GM2ZgQCXsAAXPBc?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GM2ZgQCXsAAXPBc?format=jpg&name=medium)

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/508 "2024-05-05T23:31:39Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Is it weird to anyone else that Cricket would kill several chickens when she got the chance?

I currently have a Pointer, and I’ve had several other Pointers, both the German Shortaired variety and the Wirehaired variety that Noem blasted. These dogs have incredible prey drive and it’s hard to describe unless you’ve owned them. They live to find birds, or squirrels, rabbits, etc. And they are extremely good at doing so. Just this weekend, we went for a hike in the steeps above the Salmon River which is filled with Chukar. Our dog would be going at a full run and then stop in his tracks just because he smelled a Chukar. And he was running at full speed because he is looking for them. And he found a lot of them. It’s an amazing talent.

I wouldn’t trust him around chickens without me being with him.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/509 "2024-05-05T23:44:16Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> When they are on the trail, nose to the ground their bugle bark is a beautiful, nostalgic sound.

Tastes vary. 🙂

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Can you please define “spurlauter”?

Pointers (GSPs in particular) also have this spurlauter instinct. We know when they are chasing prey. It’s hard to find a video with it. This is the only one I’ve found. It should start around 52 seconds in. You need your speakers way up to hear the dog doing it. Be careful: To hear it, you’ll be at levels to blast you out if you go to something else.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BB_MMZyXmkU/maxresdefault.jpg "Jagdhund Braque du Bourbonnais Wasserarbeit - Spurlaut - Schleppe.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB_MMZyXmkU&t=48/)

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/511 "2024-05-05T23:50:57Z")

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So true.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/512 "2024-05-06T00:03:19Z")

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That’s the thing. You don’t leave _working_ hunting dogs alone with small prey.  
It’s their job to hunt them.

My husband’s Beagles are not free to run in my yard. They have a large comfortable kennel.  
They are not pets.  
The ones he’s culled have come to me to raise and soften up, and gone on to families who want a pure bred Beagle for a pet. (Think Snoopy)

I’ve kept only one with me. She was not actually normal and I thought would never acclimate to a house where she was not constantly watched and not left alone. I felt like she had some birth defect or accident at birth. Her mother rejected her. I had her from 5 days on. She turned into my beloved Betsy.

She didn’t deserve to die. And I suspect Cricket didn’t either. It was just expedient way to dispose of an unwanted dog. Shame on Noem.

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I can remember your posts when you first got Bob. He looks great now!

Poor Luc. He got old and lost most of his sight, hearing, and smell. One day he actually bumped into a squirrel. Shocked them both!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> <https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1787276611068285307>

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> **[Kristi Noem Attempts To Relieve Tension From Negative Press By Squeezing...](https://www.theonion.com/kristi-noem-attempts-to-relieve-tension-from-negative-p-1851451899)**
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> The Onion brings you all of the latest news, stories, photos, videos and more from America's finest news source.

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Yeah, the lack of Lauren Boebert stories in the news should be worrying.

Lauren Boebert and a Billy Goat is just too much to contemplate on a Sunday.

Sorry.

\< Beetlejuice…! \> \< Beetlejuice…! \> \< Beetlejuice…! \>

“BahhhaaaHAAAA…!”

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She must have forgotten that she narrated the damn thing.

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> I currently have a Pointer

The dog in my avatar is a GSP x Weimeraner- such a lovely dog. He is the runt of his litter, and his hunting instinct never really kicked in, perhaps because he was really well socialised with animals or, perhaps he had oxygen starvation at birth. I’m inclined to the latter, as both breeds have a reputation for being intelligent, but he… is just not.

My other dog is a GSP cross random farm dog, mostly labrador, but plenty in the mix.

She is really intelligent and has a full on prey drive. She kills rats all the time, but I did habituate her to everything from horses, cows, goats, sheep, cats etc. She points, the other idiot just blunders about with tail wagging.

She has killed cats, even though she grew up as a puppy with a cat, who put her in her place. She lived with that cat for more than four years, so I thought she would be OK.

Fortunately for me, only in my garden, and apparently strays, because for each cat, I would have the horrible task of asking the neighborhood if any cat is missing, posting notices at our local vet, etc. Never got an answer. She is leashed outside, and with a harness, rather than a collar, because she knows how to escape.

I did keep a water spray loaded with citronella and water and would shoot it at cats that I spotted on the property, so the killing eventually declined. I guess the cats got a much less deadly message.

She’s now 14 years old, and I think she has given up on that career path. I hope so.

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We found a lost dog in the street. He was old and unsteady on his feet. Scared and hungry. Clearly useless. We took him home and shot him in the face with a shotgun. Because sometimes you have to make these hard decisions for the good of everybody.

Actually we took him home, fed him, posted his picture on NextDoor and located his owner, who was in tears at having lost him, within a couple of hours. Because we are not sociopathic MAGATs.

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Thats wonderful.

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