# Fuck Kristi "Puppy Killer" Noem (descriptions of animal cruelty in OP)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [April 27, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808 "2024-04-27T00:22:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> I find it _extremely_ plausible that he collected it anyway and then leaked it to the press, just to be a dick.

I don’t know him personally, but he seems to me to be very squeamish about things that he finds icky, which includes any flavor of “trans” anything, and he wouldn’t have wanted anything so tainted around him. Of course, any of his staff may have known and been both keeping it from him and saving it up for some useful occasion.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/882 "2026-04-01T16:03:29Z")

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Yes, it could easily have been not Trump himself, but some other clown in his Cabinet of Curiosities.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/883 "2026-04-01T16:16:34Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> What the hell is wrong with these people?
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> If that is bigoted of me, so be it.
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> Each and every person Trump is involved with has baggage that is odd, weird, maybe illegal.

When an authoritarian leader demands loyalty above all other considerations, they naturally attract people with sketchy backgrounds. What better way to ensure loyalty in your underlings than knowing how they’re compromised? Even if there’s no direct repercussions, these people have nothing of value but their loyalty, so they cling to it tightly, until they’re thrown under the bus.

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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/884 "2026-04-01T16:26:12Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> When an authoritarian leader demands loyalty above all other considerations, they naturally attract people with sketchy backgrounds. What better way to ensure loyalty in your underlings than knowing how they’re compromised? Even if there’s no direct repercussions, these people have nothing of value but their loyalty, so they cling to it tightly, until they’re thrown under the bus

This is how Scientology works.

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**Author:** ![Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tired_and_Cranky)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/885 "2026-04-01T16:50:04Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> From what little I’ve read, the _family_ wants “prayers and privacy,” which even if they don’t deserve it is understandable - as egregious and hypocritical as Kristi/Bryon are, they have loved ones who are presumably blameless (though who knows; maybe the children are huge promoters of right wing evil) and who will suffer as a result of the scandal.

The Noem’s children are blameless and no right-thinking person would judge them for their parents’ activities. Their problems are that they care about the opinions of hateful judgmental people who cannot be described as right-thinking (e.g., typical Republicans). Those Republicans are perfectly on board with punishing children for the offenses of their parents. And of course, their parents problem is also that the Republicans with which they associate are among the most hateful and judgmental people in the country, so they will judge Kristi Noem on her affair and hate Mr. Noem for his proclivities. If the Noems had an ounce of introspection, they would realize that their problems are all caused by the right wing monsters they are working to keep in power.

> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Gee, how could the FBI have not known about this when she was made head of the DHS? What a blunder! /s

DHS doesn’t oversee the FBI; the DOJ does.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/886 "2026-04-01T17:17:28Z")

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She had to be confirmed. I’m sure she was background checked by the FBI.

If that connection matters. I suppose it’s according to how long Byron has been engaging in this activity online.

Come on folks, if you’re a politician or married to one wouldn’t it be wise to **NOT** do these things? ON-LINE?

Seems painfully simple.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/887 "2026-04-01T20:03:40Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> From what little I’ve read, the _family_ wants “prayers and privacy,” which even if they don’t deserve it is understandable - as egregious and hypocritical as Kristi/Bryon are, they have loved ones who are presumably blameless (though who knows; maybe the children are huge promoters of right wing evil) and who will suffer as a result of the scandal.

Renée Good and Alex Pretti had family too and she didn’t seem to give a shit about them, so she can go fuck herself.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/888 "2026-04-01T20:38:37Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> It’s clear to me that the Noems had been leading separate lives for some time. She pursued a career in politics; he apparently largely stayed home at the farm (bolding added).

Is that what they’re calling it now?

Add it to the list of colorful euphemisms along with “hiking the Appalachian trail”.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/889 "2026-04-01T20:41:55Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> The Mail? LOL.

Somehow we ended up in a timeline where the Washington Post is uncritically carrying water for a corrupt Republican administration and the Daily Mail is doing rigorous fact-checking of bombshell stories that expose the government’s hidden secrets.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/890 "2026-04-01T20:47:09Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Renée Good and Alex Pretti had family too and she didn’t seem to give a shit about them, so she can go fuck herself.

Not to mention all those immigrants who were following the rules and going to their hearing who have been grabbed, the legal college students who made legally protected comments that the administration didn’t like who were grabbed, the random people deported foreign jails without due process, some of whom did nothing wrong (because without due process, they punish the wrong people some of the time.) I can keep this up all day. Yes, she can go fuck herself.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/891 "2026-04-01T21:09:52Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> the Daily Mail is doing rigorous fact-checking

🤔 😃 😄 😆 😂 🤣

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/892 "2026-04-01T21:18:18Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> he apparently largely stayed home at the farm.

Was it a dairy farm?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/893 "2026-04-01T21:25:35Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> some other clown in his Cabinet of Curiosities.

I am so stealing this.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/894 "2026-04-01T21:29:52Z")

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This is certainly a “fuck, marry, kill” answer I never envisioned.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/omAFhaz.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/omAFhaz.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/895 "2026-04-01T21:54:49Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Renée Good and Alex Pretti had family too and she didn’t seem to give a shit about them, so she can go fuck herself.

Sure. But should her children and grandchildren go fuck themselves, too?

Related: there was just an article in the NYT which indicated that in their home town, among the people who knew the couple, the sympathy seems to be with Bryon (not so much Kristi).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/896 "2026-04-01T21:56:59Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Related: there was just an article in the NYT which indicated that in their home town, among the people who knew the couple, the sympathy seems to be with Bryon (not so much Kristi).

Sure. Bryon has a slightly unusual hobby that harms nobody. Kristi doesn’t know how to do anything other than harming others.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/897 "2026-04-01T21:59:24Z")

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I kinda feel sorry for him, myself.

He cannot be getting any joy from this.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/898 "2026-04-01T22:19:26Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> > [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> > Renée Good and Alex Pretti had family too and she didn’t seem to give a shit about them, so she can go fuck herself.
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> Sure. But should her children and grandchildren go fuck themselves, too?

Hey. Not my problem. She should have thought of that when she decided to be a twat.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/899 "2026-04-01T22:32:52Z")

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OMG. Forwarding!

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Hey. Not my problem. She should have thought of that when she decided to be a twat.

If you use the “not my problem” rationale for shrugging off pity for every **innocent** person who is suffering, you might as well be a Republican.

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