# Fuck Kristi "Puppy Killer" Noem (descriptions of animal cruelty in OP) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 27, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808 "2024-04-27T00:22:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/961 "2026-04-03T13:06:45Z")
I think they do ask about cross-dressing (probably not big boobs specifically), and yes, they do expect that people will lie. That’s why they also investigate in other ways. Answer truthfully, no problem, but answers that disagree are a problem, because they show that you’re both dishonest and blackmailable. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/962 "2026-04-03T13:12:44Z")
This kind of potential blackmail material just doesn’t raise red flags w/Trump. And we know this … because … > **[Opinion | How Trump chose children over country in security clearance showdown](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/story-how-trump-chose-children-over-country-men-who-tried-ncna1240390)** > > The battle over Jared and Ivanka's security clearances would be a fight for survival pitting Trump's chief of staff and counsel against his family. > Counterintelligence officials had concerns about the attempts by foreign countries to buy influence with President Donald Trump’s children dating back to his transition. Before Trump was inaugurated, intercepted communications revealed evidence of foreign officials from more than one country discussing how they wanted to do business deals with the children in order to gain closer access to the administration. A wiretap picked up the United Arab Emirates’ ambassador to the United States, Yousef Otaiba, discussing how he wanted to help Jared and Ivanka find a home in Washington, where they planned to move from New York before the president took office. {…} > And then McGahn conceded that Trump could if he chose simply disregard any security concerns and circumvent any standard procedures and grant Kushner the security clearance himself. [It’s a worthwhile article] ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/963 "2026-04-03T14:47:02Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > > [@Folacin](#): > > > > And even if the FBI has a standard question about cross-dressing wearing fake boobs, he may have lied. > > This cracks me up more than it should. > > I’m imagining an FBI questionnaire, with increasingly detailed questions about deviant weirdness. The recent sketch comedy reboot _Mitchell and Webb Are Not Helping_ [did a version of this about the UK “DBS check” procedure](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnDMt9T3Cvk) (Disclosure and Barring Service) for prospective employees, to unearth criminal and other misconduct histories. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/964 "2026-04-03T15:47:47Z")
Honestly, I suspect the background check consists of asking whether Trump wants them in that position or not. I doubt anything else is a consideration. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/965 "2026-04-03T16:27:55Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I remember when I was in high school and several members of the football team showed up to school dressed as cheerleaders for the day. This was actually a tradition at my high school while I was attending. I hope it’s died out because I found it very cringe. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/966 "2026-04-03T16:44:52Z")
I remember our wrestling team doing that at my high school. That was over 30 years ago though. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/967 "2026-04-03T16:46:36Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That was over 30 years ago though. 47 for me. The pictures made it to the yearbook. (rule of comedy) Men in drag is always funny. (not really…me) ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/968 "2026-04-03T16:48:39Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I remember our wrestling team doing that at my high school. > > That was over 30 years ago though. I’m not gonna say how long ago it was for me, but it was a lot more. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/969 "2026-04-03T17:51:45Z")
The boys at my school wore short skirts one day to “protest” because girls could wear skirts, but they couldn’t wear shorts. God, we were dumb. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/970 "2026-04-03T19:33:28Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > because I found it very cringe Eh, High School is the time to get away with cringe. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/971 "2026-04-03T19:54:09Z")
Nineteen-seventy-nine. Start of my freshman year in high school. We had the now defunct tradition of Slave Day, where the seniors bid on their favorite freshmen for the purpose of humiliating them for the day. My neighbor bought me and my best friend and made us wear square dancing dresses, complete with pettycoats, for the day. Gee, what fun. For the record, I didn’t do that to my slave. I made him lay lengths of carpet in front of me where ever I walked through the halls. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/972 "2026-04-03T20:46:43Z")
My school must’ve been woke. One teacher, for the life of me I can’t remember what he taught, got ok from on high to do an experiment in racism. Every student in 10th grade went to the auditorium. You were given a number ticket. Every number was called and you were put into one of 3 categories. They had clever names(can’t remember that either). You were Top, middle, low. As you got called and assigned to your category you were given an arm band. Red, blue or yellow. Each had certain rules of behavior Boy, lemme tell you it got nasty after the first week. Kids were trading armbands for favors. One particular BF/GF pair were separated by their color armbands. One parent complained loudly her twins were separated. Fights, a folderol about some kids charging money to lower armbands kids. Arguments everyday in the hallway and lunch room. I’m not sure if it was a successful experiment. Made me think. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/973 "2026-04-03T20:58:36Z")
We also had “Senior Slave Day” at my high school, in the early 1980s, although ours was the opposite. Underclassmen could bid on various seniors to be their “slaves” for the day. Not so much to humiliate them, but just to act as “servants.” Carry your books for you, pick up your lunch in the cafeteria and bring it to your table, things like that. Would never fly today, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/974 "2026-04-03T21:12:21Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I’m not sure if it was a successful experiment. Made me think. Sounds like the [Stanford Prison Experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment) in 1971. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/975 "2026-04-03T21:20:31Z")
I guess you could say we were incarcerated against our will. We called our principal the Warden. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/976 "2026-04-03T21:36:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Sounds like the [Stanford Prison Experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment) in 1971. The one I thought of divided people by eye color. > **[Jane Elliott](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott)** > > Jane Elliott (née Jennison; born November 30, 1933) is an American diversity educator. As a schoolteacher, Elliott became known for the "Blue Eyes/Brown Eyes" exercise she created to teach students about the effects of discrimination and racial stereotyping. She first conducted the exercise with her third-grade class\[a\] on April 5, 1968, the day after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. The local newspaper's publication of compositions that the children had written about the experie The... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/977 "2026-04-04T19:53:03Z")
The Independent reports that Bryon’s proclivities have been the talk of admin insider gossip all along and that Kristi was openly talking about it in order to justify her affair. > **[Kristi Noem husband’s cross-dressing was ‘open secret in DC’: report](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kristi-noem-husband-bryon-cross-dressing-photos-b2951334.html)** > > While the ousted DHS secretary’s initial statement expressed shock, White House and Homeland Security officials had been gossiping about Bryon Noem’s alleged fetishes for months, according to a report ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/978 "2026-04-04T20:12:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The Independent reports that Bryon’s proclivities have been the talk of admin insider gossip all along and that Kristi was openly talking about it in order to justify her affair. Yeah. I don’t think anyone is buying into the idea Kristi was “shocked” to learn about her husband’s proclivities. She knew. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/979 "2026-04-04T20:22:37Z")
The wording of her comments struck me as carefully chosen: She was blindsided by the report coming out, not by the content of the reporting. But ambiguous enough to be interpreted as “oh my gosh, I never suspected such perversion!” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/980 "2026-04-04T20:28:01Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Yeah. I don’t think anyone is buying into the idea Kristi was “shocked” to learn about her husband’s proclivities. She knew. Ok Kristi, SO WHAT. We don’t care if you knew. You and Trump created an American Gestapo. That’s sort of a problem. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808.md?page=48) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808.md?page=50)