# Fuck Kristi "Puppy Killer" Noem (descriptions of animal cruelty in OP) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 27, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808 "2024-04-27T00:22:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/81 "2024-04-27T16:34:07Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Here’s what really bothers me about Noem’s awareness on the topic. Politicians always play to their base like when Alabama governor Kay Ivey said her state was proud to be racists. Now South Dakota governor Kristi Noem supposes that her base supports shooting puppies in the face. If I were a South Dakotan MAGA, I’d be really disturbed that that. We have her carefully curated and edited viewpoint on the incident which is horrific. Imagine the actual truth. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/82 "2024-04-27T16:35:12Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > You underestimate how much Trump is influenced by those he sees as his people. It’s not like he has a bunch of his own ideas. If a large vocal part of his base is disgusted by her he’s not going to spend time defending dog murder. He’s going to pick a different sycophant. I agree that Trump always is looking to what’s he thinks are his best interests, without any concern for how it affects others. So he’ll most likely denounce Noem. However, my point in that post is that we shouldn’t see what MAGAs are saying today as a firm predictor on what they’ll be saying next week. They’re followers not thinkers. There are plenty of examples of MAGAs adopting a new set of beliefs because Trump told them to. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/83 "2024-04-27T16:38:30Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > If I were a South Dakotan MAGA, I’d be really disturbed that that. If you’re the kind of person who is disturbed by a politician doing or saying terrible things, you weren’t a MAGA before this. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/84 "2024-04-27T16:40:51Z")
Ayup. True or not, the story was definitely designed to appeal to that MAGA base. Noem, Boebert, Trump, MTG, et al are _supply,_ and they’re as insidious, invidious, and perfidious as they come. But they’re just a relative handful of evil fucks. _Demand_ is the – omigod – millions of Americans who buy the shit that they’re selling, as fast as they can sell it. And Jesus wept. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/85 "2024-04-27T16:46:38Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Maybe (?) this has some resonance with some rural voters, I’d say such voters would understand the necessity of euthanizing a livestock killer, although they might well question the method and whether the dog hadn’t been trained properly to begin with. But executing a billy goat because it was being a billy goat? Damn, woman, sell it or castrate it, fool! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/86 "2024-04-27T16:48:41Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I wonder if Noem is one of those people who think they are born to give commands. I mean, that’s pretty much the core of the Republican mindset these days: we are the Chosen Few who have been anointed by God to rule over the masses, and their needs and concerns are to be paid lip service to and ignored so that we can wield the power of government to benefit ourselves - after all, we deserve it, don’t we? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/87 "2024-04-27T16:52:01Z")
When was the last time anybody saw [**Corey Lewandowski??**](https://www.siouxfallslive.com/news/south-dakota/stories-of-gov-kristi-noems-personal-life-distracting-from-real-challenges-insiders-say) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/88 "2024-04-27T16:59:45Z")
My idiot MAGA brother in law shot is own horse, because he was moving off his ranch and couldn’t keep it. I guees the idea of selling ti, heck, of giving it away never entered his rotted mind. We think he shot the horse’s burro stable buddy, too, but he never admitted to that. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/89 "2024-04-27T17:01:30Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I’d say such voters would understand the necessity of euthanizing a livestock killer If they are like Coloradans, then “livestock killers” are (wrongly) thought to be wolves and coyotes. Not household pets. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/90 "2024-04-27T17:02:47Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > My idiot MAGA brother in law shot is own horse, because he was moving off his ranch and couldn’t keep it. Where is he from? Around here, he couldn’t walk 10 steps without tripping over someone who could find it a home. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/91 "2024-04-27T17:09:18Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I’d say such voters would understand the necessity of euthanizing a livestock killer, although they might well question the method and whether the dog hadn’t been trained properly to begin with. I think many rural people distinguish between pets and working animals. Cricket and the goat borh appear to have been pets. Impulsively killing pets should not be a good look . But people will rationalize it. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/92 "2024-04-27T17:10:16Z")
I’m going to offer a possible reason for putting the horse down, as a long-time horse owner myself. If it was old, and/or not usable for a new owner, and/or difficult to handle, and/or with lameness or other health issues, it might have been impossible to find a new home for it. Even if it went to a new home, there’s no guarantee it would be treated well, not abused, not sold on to worse use/abuse, etc. I’ve heard plenty of horror stories about owners of horses sent on to a “good home” who discovered it had been consigned to an awful situation. Heck, my own first horse was sold by his breeder to what was promised to be a good home, only to discover she’d been lied to, and in two years (from age eight to ten), he went through three owners and came to me severely underweight and with clear signs of abuse. The guy might have believed that the best solution was euthanasia. Or he might just be a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/93 "2024-04-27T17:15:52Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Simple curiosity: What crops are produced by her farm? Milk from a cow time-shared with Devin Nunes. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/94 "2024-04-27T17:18:10Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > (Of course the psychopaths I encountered were the ones who were caught and imprisoned. There’s probably another class of more functional psychopaths who manage to stay undetected.) Some manage to stay undetected for quite a while before getting caught. Thomas Sweatt set 353 fires over a couple of decades and had been an odd duck during childhood: > **[Letters From an Arsonist](https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/300303/letters-from-an-arsonist/)** > > In the early morning hours of Jan. 11, 1985, Thomas Sweatt, a 30-year-old fry cook, finished his late shift at a Roy Rogers and stepped out onto Florida Avenue NE. \[…\] Don’t click that unless you want to read a psychopath’s description of what goes on inside his mind. I just skimmed it and _ew_. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/95 "2024-04-27T17:18:17Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I think many rural people distinguish between pets and working animals. That’s definitely true, but even if you accept the dubious assertion these were farm animals not pets, it’s still a horrifically unacceptable thing. Absolutely part of farming is killing farm animals when it’s necessary. But doing so humanely is absolutely part of the moral duty of farmers. Blasting away at your goat (because you thought it was mean and smelly) with a shotgun, wounding it and then leaving it in pain while you fetch more shells is horrific, from a farmers point of view not from a sheltered urbanite’s. I grew up on and around farms and it was absolutely accepted it was immoral to use a shotgun on anything bigger than rabbit (and that’s in the UK where getting hold of a rifle required much more paperwork than a shotgun) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/96 "2024-04-27T17:22:05Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > But executing a billy goat because it was being a billy goat? Damn, woman, sell it or castrate it, fool! Would that work? I’d think you need to castrate the goat before it matures to prevent aggression, or does losing the source of testosterone cause an ornery billy goat to calm down? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/97 "2024-04-27T17:31:51Z")
It takes a month or two for the hormones to clear after castration, but yes, neutering does change the animal, even an adult. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/98 "2024-04-27T17:32:39Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > It takes a month or two for the hormones to clear after castration, but yes, neutering does change the animal, even an adult Good news everyone, we don’t need to kill Billy after all! (/s if it isn’t obvious) But that’s fascinating! Learn something new every day. Eta: with my Caprid avatar, maybe it’s best to speak no more of this. ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/99 "2024-04-27T17:33:19Z")
Another “hold my beer” moment: Didn’t Sarah Palin boast of hunting wolves in a helicopter? Kristi just had to outdo the joneses. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/100 "2024-04-27T17:34:14Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Good news everyone, we don’t need to kill Billy after all! An animal like that you don’t eat all at once. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808.md?page=6)