# Fuck Kristi "Puppy Killer" Noem (descriptions of animal cruelty in OP) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 27, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808 "2024-04-27T00:22:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/101 "2024-04-27T17:34:38Z")
Well, yeh, although head-butting is kinda SOP for goats in general, and behavior a young one has been allowed to get away with (that’s so cute!) can persist into even neutered adulthood. But for sure the billy goat stink and heightened aggression would go away. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/102 "2024-04-27T17:36:21Z")
> [@bobsmom101](#): > > Another “hold my beer” moment: Didn’t Sarah Palin boast of hunting wolves in a helicopter? Kristi just had to outdo the joneses. Yeah, the lack of Lauren Boebert stories in the news should be worrying. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/103 "2024-04-27T17:38:58Z")
If I had to guess (and I will!), the dog was killed partly as a punishment to the daughter for some past transgression. It would explain the timing of the killing, right before the school bus came back, when the daughter was expecting to see her pet. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/104 "2024-04-27T17:40:53Z")
I agree it is horrific. Just pointing out that even that doesn’t hold water when the puppy was a _pet_. “Country folk” do have pets. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/105 "2024-04-27T17:41:27Z")
> [@bobsmom101](#): > > Another “hold my beer” moment It’s a scary that the GOP has reached the canonical “silly hypothetical thing that a politician can do to become unelectable” and we still have a decent chance of the GOP controlling all branches of government in November ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/106 "2024-04-27T17:41:33Z")
Oh, I can absolutely see her telling the girl that it was her fault the animals misbehaved and had to be put down. More of those Republican family values we’ve heard so much about. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/107 "2024-04-27T17:49:34Z")
From her response tweet: > [@](#): > > We love animals, but tough decisions like this happen all the time on a farm. Sadly, we just had to put down 3 horses a few weeks ago that had been in our family for 25 years. OK, so even if the dog did things that meant that it had to be killed, and if the goat also did things that meant it had to be killed, we’re first assuming that both of those things happened, what, within an hour of each other? And now, even assuming that all three of these horses needed to be killed, that all happened within an unspecified span but which was apparently less than a week? The pattern is clear: The one thing in common in all of these cases is Noem herself. She kills just because she’s in a bad mood, and she keeps on killing as long as she’s in the bad mood. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/108 "2024-04-27T17:53:32Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Where is he from? Sierra Vista, AZ.Hotbed of MAGA border “possees”/ ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/109 "2024-04-27T17:54:56Z")
> [@](#): > > At that point, Noem writes, she realised a construction crew had watched her kill both animals. The startled workers swiftly got back to work, she writes, only for a school bus to arrive and drop off Noem’s children. Something else that struck me about that quote, that I don’t think has been mentioned yet, is I felt an undertone of “those slacker workers were daring to watch/judge _me_ but then got back to laboring properly when they realized I, a gun-toting member of the aristocracy, was looking at them.” Icky all around. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/110 "2024-04-27T17:56:06Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > “Country folk” do have pets Yeah farmers in my family growing up definitely had two types of dogs. Working dogs who lived in sheds and weren’t house trained or safe around kids, and pets who lived with the family and were great around kids. This dog is clearly a pet not a working dog. Also the working dogs while they weren’t cared for in the way we think pets should be had pretty good lives, unlike Kristis poor dog. They basically spent long days with their humans (who cared for them very much even if they didn’t buy them footie pajamas) doing hard, mentally stimulating work herding sheep. I would bet if you measured their stress levels they were much lower than your average pampered urban dog in a house where everyone works full-time. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/111 "2024-04-27T17:57:30Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > From her response tweet And further in the Xweet: > If you want more real, honest, and politically INcorrect stories that’ll have the media gasping IOW let’s pwn the snowflakes. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/112 "2024-04-27T18:03:24Z")
Maybe she’ll tell us about the time she took her undocumented farm worker down to the gravel pit and shot him in the face because she didn’t like his attitude. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/113 "2024-04-27T18:06:54Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Something else that struck me about that quote, that I don’t think has been mentioned yet, is I felt an undertone of “those slacker workers were daring to watch/judge _me_ but then got back to laboring properly when they realized I, a gun-toting member of the aristocracy, was looking at them.” Yeah, there’s some sort of subtext going on with that. I don’t think it’s that she thought the workers were slackers. Maybe she felt like they were unfairly judging her without knowing the “righteousness” of her actions. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/114 "2024-04-27T18:14:29Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If I had to guess (and I will!), the dog was killed partly as a punishment to the daughter for some past transgression. Also on-brand behavior for MAGA boosters and performative narcissists. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Maybe she’ll tell us about the time she took her undocumented farm worker down to the gravel pit and shot him in the face because she didn’t like his attitude. I’m pretty sure if you do a ‘fold-in’ on the page where this bizarre story is told, you’ll find that the text forms an ASCII art image of Kamala Harris’s face with a bullseye centered on here forehead. > [@needscoffee](#): > > Maybe she felt like they were unfairly judging her without knowing the “righteousness” of her actions. She’s demonstrating that she doesn’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks about the morality of her actions, especially a bunch of ditch-diggers who ought to vote her into office and then stop whining or demanding accountability. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/115 "2024-04-27T18:20:32Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Now South Dakota governor Kristi Noem supposes that her base supports shooting puppies in the face. If I were a South Dakotan MAGA, I’d be really disturbed that that. Though another key point here is what Noem and the other VP front runners are campaigning for is an electorate of exactly one. They don’t need to get the support of the MAGA faithful, or the east coast GOP elite, or the swing voters, or any other segment of the electorate except Donald J Trump himself. I do think she’s probably screwed up her chances with this revelation. But that’s mainly because there is a large field here, it turns out there A LOT of spineless Republicans willing to be an empty suit who’s only purpose is to betray their oath of office if called upon. Hell, Trump has a pretty well honed sense of self preservation and that goes against spending four years hanging out with an obvious psychopath who tortures and kills and then boasts about it, even with secret service protection. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/116 "2024-04-27T18:34:57Z")
Yeah, Noem was my top pick for Trump’s VP slot, but I agree with those who have said this is too ghastly, even for Trump. Not because he finds fault with her kill dysfunction, but because in his reptilian way, he gets that puppy-killing (and cruel goat-killing) offend most people’s basic sensibilities. He may not get why, but he gets that it does. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/117 "2024-04-27T18:41:32Z")
She should’ve written that the dog and goat told her that there was no evidence of election interference on 2020, justifying the whole thing to her audience of one. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/118 "2024-04-27T18:47:21Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Yeah, Noem was my top pick for Trump’s VP slot, but I agree with those who have said this is too ghastly, even for Trump. Not because he finds fault with her kill dysfunction, but because in his reptilian way, he gets that puppy-killing (and cruel goat-killing) offend most people’s basic sensibilities. Especially by a woman. A voter might believe a man saying it was “unfortunate, but the dog was untrainable” but women always need more evidence than men for extraordinarily claims (and to be clear, I think this extraordinary claim needs evidence) and violence from a woman is perceived differently. In this world view, men sometimes reluctantly take on unpleasant violence with pure intentions, but women don’t. They hand it over to a man. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/119 "2024-04-27T19:12:48Z")
Normal farmers who do their own butchering, and hunters too, do their best to dispatch a meat animal as cruelty-free as possible. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808/120 "2024-04-27T19:55:23Z")
I’m absolutely disgusted by this story, this woman and the mere fact that some high political figure in the US can even think that telling such a story could score them electoral points. This is nothing but clear psychopathic behavior, and we know that many murderers (of humans) started out killing animals before. Besides this moral depravity, I think it’s telling and disgusting that nobody so far has even mentioned legal implications, so actions like that seem to be totally a-ok in America. Here in Germany, she would be in deep legal troubles, as killing animals for no apparent reason is a serious crime (animals are legally not mere objects anymore here, thankfully), and she would face at least a few months of probation, if not jail time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-kristi-puppy-killer-noem-descriptions-of-animal-cruelty-in-op/1000808.md?page=7)