# Fuck McAfee and their shady business practices. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 27, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-mcafee-and-their-shady-business-practices/623282 "2012-05-27T22:05:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-mcafee-and-their-shady-business-practices/623282/21 "2012-05-29T20:11:42Z")
> [@Bookkeeper](#): > > Frustrating as this may be, I would count nearly impossible to remove as a feature, not a bug. If anti-malware programs were easy to uninstall, some hacker would figure out how to write a virus that would do it without your knowledge. I get the point you’re trying to make, but you’re wrong. Obfuscation is not security. Conversely, something can be perfectly straightforward to use and still be secure. The fact that it’s easy for me to log into my online banking account and pay my water bill doesn’t mean that everyone on the Internet can steal my money, nor would hiding the bill payment screen under ten submenus make my money any more or less secure. ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-mcafee-and-their-shady-business-practices/623282/22 "2012-05-29T20:18:36Z")
> [@Bookkeeper](#): > > Frustrating as this may be, I would count nearly impossible to remove as a feature, not a bug. If anti-malware programs were easy to uninstall, some hacker would figure out how to write a virus that would do it without your knowledge. Wrong. Even if it’s hard to uninstall, the hacker only needs to figure out how to do it once. Errr… what Giraffe said. Anyway, for home users, there is absolutely no reason to use anything other than Microsoft Security Essentials. It’s the least intrusive AV program I’ve ever used, hands down, and I’ll probably be moving my company to the enterprise version once the subscription to our current vendor runs out. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-mcafee-and-their-shady-business-practices/623282/23 "2012-05-29T21:33:54Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Uninstall it fer chrissakes. Install a less intrusive and free AV like Avast. Then install the also free version of Malwarebytes. You will not get a virus again, **as long as you avoid the most questionable of all internet content.** But that’s where the best porn is located! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-mcafee-and-their-shady-business-practices/623282/24 "2012-05-29T22:43:03Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Yes, plenty. > > I won’t link to them, but just to name a few: > Fapdu > RedTube > YouPorn > SubmitYourFlicks > MyFreeCams (though this site looks sketchy, because of lazy programming, it’s free of malware, AFAIK. I actually don’t go there myself.) > Tube8 > [sneeep] Umm, isn’t posting this a little like offering your friends a drink… that’s highly addictive and often poisonous but tastes reeeeally good? (and if my wife sees this post, I’m posting metaphorically/symbolically/innocent-of-all-chargesly) ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-mcafee-and-their-shady-business-practices/623282/25 "2012-05-29T23:25:22Z")
[Remember](http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fx/), [browse](http://noscript.net/) [safely](http://adblockplus.org/en/). (all SFW btw) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-mcafee-and-their-shady-business-practices/623282/26 "2012-05-29T23:29:58Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > I won’t link to them, but just to name a few: > Fapdu > RedTube > YouPorn > SubmitYourFlicks > MyFreeCams (though this site looks sketchy, because of lazy programming, it’s free of malware, AFAIK. I actually don’t go there myself.) > Tube8 I’ll be in my bunk [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-mcafee-and-their-shady-business-practices/623282.md?page=1)