# Fuck meth. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190 "2020-01-29T21:34:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190/41 "2020-02-01T22:18:46Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > …and she’s now recklessly destroyed that, why on earth should anybody be expected to have any sympathy for her? :rolleyes: > [@Acsenray](#): > > Rolleyes? Really? She’s a person who is suffering. That’s worthy of sympathy. Isn’t the roll-eyes indicating **kimstu** ’s sarcastic reference to OP’s descriptive priorities of OP’s subject? ETA: ACK! **Skypist**! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190/42 "2020-02-01T22:38:26Z")
Okay, I didn’t see that interpretation. Goes to show you that sarcasm doesn’t work in the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190/43 "2020-02-01T22:47:16Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Have you given any thought to why or how such a choice gets made? Do you suppose that it’s because a person is worthless or evil? > > Not losing everything is also a function of of having used meth. Which group one falls into is a function of many factors, factors that an individual likely can’t grasp at a particular moment. > > Have you wondered what combination of factors and circumstances influence such a choice for a person in a particular moment? How about someone not understanding the nature of drugs, or not believing them? There are a lot of good reasons for someone to doubt earnings they’ve been given about drug use. > Consider yourself lucky then. Or maybe you just haven’t come across your poison. Or maybe you are addicted to something that society doesn’t classify as an addiction? > > Have you ever tried nicotine products or alcohol? Maybe you haven’t, but a lot of people have. > > Or is it the illegal part? Have you never broken the law, even a speed limit? > > [quoye]I’ve done some dumb things and have always taken responsibility for all my actions. It might be interesting to consider that “taking responsibility for one’s actions” may often be a function In part of resources, circumstances, privileges, luck, and other things that aren’t within a person’s control. Sure. Has it ever occurred to you to wonder why something like a drug might become the most important thing in a person’s life? Or you do you suppose the only explanation is that the person is worthless and unworthy of sympathy or empathy. [/QUOTE] I do not know her circumstances or why she chose to you drugs, but I do not consider her worthless or evil and never said I did. I am sorry that folks don’t like the fact that I have no sympathy for her. She originally chose to use drugs and after two years without drugs chose to use again two weeks prior to getting her child back. I feel sorry for the child and am happy there is a caring grandparent. Have a good friend you has her grandchild because the daughter won’t get off drugs. Fixed the daughters meth rotted teeth(I am a dentist) for her during the brief time she was clean. Got right back on drugs but I don’t think it was a waste to fix her teeth. I try to help when I can. My sibling was a speed freak for over 20 years and sibling in law was a cocaine addict. They are both clean now and doing well. Two nephews are currently addicted to meth and getting in deeper and deeper. They will not take help. Not addicted to anything, as previously stated, never used an illegal drug. Never tried nicotine, saw what smoking was doing to a parent and never wanted to. I drink alcohol socially, maybe a couple of times a month, not generally to excess. Don’t drink and drive as a buddy in the Army was killed but a drunk driver. Sure I’ve done illegal stuff never said I didn’t. Yes I speed but never on a residential street, not that that make it any better. Never claimed to be a saint, I just don’t have sympathy for the lady and that seems to make a lot of people here unhappy. I guess that is just the way it is. If in your mind it makes me a bad person than so be it. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190/44 "2020-02-01T22:54:40Z")
I wish I could just mark it down as a personal foible. But a lack of empathy and sympathy among people in the world is actively making our world a worse place for everyone, and is making human lives worse. It interferes with society’s ability to address problems like addiction. So I can’t forgive it. An addict has a monkey on es back that’s hard to shake. What makes an unsympathetic and unempathetic person be like that? It’s less understandable and in my view less forgivable than being an addict. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190/45 "2020-02-01T23:15:53Z")
I can map everything **Oakminster** said to another young woman I know. A great big wonderful life in front of her, but she got on meth, lost a couple of kids, tried the _this is what causes relapses_ bullshit in court, alienated practically all of her family. She says she’s clean now. I hope so. Because, despite the meth, she’s still special. Sorry about your acquaintance, **Oak**. Hope she pulls it together. ---
**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190/46 "2020-02-02T01:03:28Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I wish I could just mark it down as a personal foible. > > But a lack of empathy and sympathy among people in the world is actively making our world a worse place for everyone, and is making human lives worse. It interferes with society’s ability to address problems like addiction. So I can’t forgive it. > > An addict has a monkey on es back that’s hard to shake. > > What makes an unsympathetic and unempathetic person be like that? It’s less understandable and in my view less forgivable than being an addict. I will assume this is directed at me. If not, my apologies. I believe I would probably have had sympathy for the lady at one time. I believe most people(see below) are entitled to make mistakes, we all do. So a bit of a subject change and truly I am not trying to be snarky. Do you believe that having empathy and sympathy for our fellow man is an absolute or is it relative. Should we all have empathy and sympathy for the likes of Jeffery Dahmer and Adolph Hitler or are there crimes such that it is okay to not have sympathy for them. I have no sympathy for them but I don’t think that contributes to making the lives of everyone worse. If it is a relative feeling, is it an individual decision or a societal one? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190/47 "2020-02-02T03:13:36Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > Yep. > > How would you refer to a male addict who was of a similar age and in a similar situation? As a stupid little boy. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2020, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190/48 "2020-02-05T05:27:24Z")
I can’t help thinking of [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tfw8SqeFEE), and so I’ll just share it. > [@](#): > > Death, she must have been your will Do I need to explain this one? > [@](#): > > Candle, candle, on my clock > Oh Lord, I must have heard you knock me out of bed The candle on the clock is burning up one’s time using speed (arguably). One can’t sleep and doesn’t miss it on speed, so I’ve heard at least. > [@](#): > > As the flames licked my head > And my lungs filled up black in their tiny little shack In my observation it is a rough drug, one might as well be setting themselves on fire smoking it. Careful not to choke! > [@](#): > > I was on the fence and I never wanted your two cents > Down my throat, in to the pit, with my head upon the spit The stupid little girl is in the pit with her head on a spit. An example of what not to do. > [@](#): > > And I know there’s no such thing as ghosts > But I have seen the demon host Maybe there is no such thing, but sometimes it does seem as if, no? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-meth/847190.md?page=2)