# Fuck Nixon all over again

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 2, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120 "2017-01-02T01:43:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/41 "2017-01-03T17:54:37Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> He’s already entering the presidency with more scandal from a fiscal standpoint than any previous US president, making Nixon’s questionable personal use of campaign funds peanuts by comparison, and he’s already created at least two diplomatic incidents before even taking office. Given the rogue’s gallery of Cabinet members and department heads he is nominating and his children running his “blind trust” I don’t think it’ll be many months before he’ll be up to his dead cat hair in scandal and corruption only matched by the best Third World strongman despots, especially since he isn’t even making an effort to conceal his avarice and surrounds himself with apologists who don’t seem to be even effectively counseling for restraint.
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> Stranger

Thing is, Nixon had to contend with a House of Ds (Senate, too). Bad-hair-guy has a properly-aligned Congress, so he can just get them to tweak the rules so that his scandals become acceptable. _Ex post facto_ only applies to guilt, not innocence.

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/42 "2017-01-03T18:16:01Z")

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Nixon was a decent [pianist](https://youtu.be/MCsGSMze_6Q?t=1m12s) (although his composing skills weren’t particularly impressive).

We haven’t had a POTUS who could play a musical instrument since Clinton; I think we’re overdue.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/43 "2017-01-05T05:43:25Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> And quite possibly tens of thousands of American lives, untold Vietnamese lives, and countless damaged veterans of that horror show.

and the fuckers got away with it.

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**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/44 "2017-01-05T11:43:30Z")

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I was 18 when Nixon resigned. Young and full of idealistic notions, I was positive that our country could never be so deceived again, that we had learned from this experience. In college, as a Poli Sci major, I learned a grudging admiration for Nixon’s foreign policy acumen. This didn’t make Tricky Dick any less venal in my eyes, but it did make him qualified, at least on one front, for the office. It still never occurred to me that this country, a scant 40 years later, would elect an individual who was both venal and unqualified on any front for the office.

Somewhere in the toasty portion of the afterlife, Nixon is having a good chuckle at our expense.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/45 "2017-01-05T12:54:40Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He’s different. That’s why he was so exciting to vote for, he’s _change_! Not even so much an agent change, he _was_ change. That’s how we gave him shoes so damn big nobody could fill them, and we’re kinda pissed that he didn’t.

Jeezkrits don’t say that! In 2008 I had to tell lots of people that no, Obama supporters don’t think he’s the messiah. No, he’s just the best candidate, the only one with a chance of being great.

So please, don’t be going on with that metaphysical embodiment of change crap.

In other news, Nixon was an immoral, twisted horse turd, willing to let people die to enhance his own public image.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/46 "2017-01-05T17:10:08Z")

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> …So please, don’t be going on with that metaphysical embodiment of change crap…

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Nothing “metaphysical” about it, a tad metaphorical, but that’s about it. I agee that many of us in the reality based community over-reacted. Obama was, and remains, a mildly progressive centrist, which, under the circumstances, was a welcome change, far as I was concerned.

But he didn’t have to be a revolutionary change to set the Forces of Darkness into full-on batshit baboon mode. They are not conservatives they are reactionaries, they are not insisting on prudent and cautious change, they want to turn the clock back. If some of the left over-reacted to the message of hope and change, the right went completely ballistic berserk.

Obama was, and remains, a centrist, He sent the right candy, flowers, and offers of compromise and reason. They sent him restraining orders. Because they saw him as “change”.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/47 "2017-01-05T17:35:50Z")

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> Nixon was a decent [pianist](https://youtu.be/MCsGSMze_6Q?t=1m12s) (although his composing skills weren’t particularly impressive).
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> We haven’t had a POTUS who could play a musical instrument since Clinton; I think we’re overdue.

Tim Kaine plays a pretty fair harmonica.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/48 "2017-01-05T17:59:07Z")

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Trump plays the dog whistle.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/49 "2017-01-05T19:36:12Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Tim Kaine plays a pretty fair harmonica.

That pretty much sums up Kaine in a nutshell. “He plays the mouth organ? To bad Craig Ferguson isn’t still on the air.”

Stranger

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/50 "2017-01-05T19:57:27Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Yep, Nixon was a lying, cheating, dishonest son-of-a-bitch. Thank Og we’ll never again elect one of those again.

Well, maybe we shouldn’t elect people whose nickname translates to “dick”

Though one has wonder about the recent election.

Maybe Hillary translates to “nasty old cunt” in some language

And Trump translates to “crazy muther fucker that starts WW3” in some other language…

“Interesting times” my ass…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/51 "2017-01-06T00:19:27Z")

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Sadly, when you compare tricky dick (“dick” rhymes with “pianist”, oddly enough) to the Republiopaths of today, he looks like a flaming Commie.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-nixon-all-over-again/776120/52 "2017-01-06T01:31:51Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> …And Trump translates to “crazy muther fucker that starts WW3” in some other language…

Well, not yet. Got a couple weeks.

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