# Fuck off, retarded sports fan

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 29, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738 "2010-12-29T19:33:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/21 "2010-12-30T17:17:35Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Rooting for a team doesn’t preclude badmouthing them.

Badmouthing your team is like badmouthing your sibling. You may be pissed at them for some slight, real or imagined, but you still love them and would go to the mat for them.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/22 "2010-12-30T17:20:53Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Nah. For all their ferocious reputation, Eagles fans are pretty tame face to face. They only get violent when they’re liquored up, in groups, and can hide behind anonymity. Talking smack to them on the street is pretty safe.

Yeah, all you Internet tough guys are sure making this Eagles fan nervous, that’s for sure. I hope to God I never hear you talk smack. I’d probably piss myself.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/23 "2010-12-30T17:21:48Z")

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Dio is a Redskins fan?

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/24 "2010-12-30T17:37:47Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Yeah, all you Internet tough guys are sure making this Eagles fan nervous, that’s for sure. I hope to God I never hear you talk smack. I’d probably piss myself.

Tough guys? I wear my Steelers stuff all the time, even the rare occasions that I go to Philadelphia, and I hear nary a peep. But hey, they sure are brave pouring beer on people and beating them up at the stadiums, aren’t they? It sure is hard to be a tough guy when you’re outnumbering people 50-1, isn’t it? Who’s tough now?

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/25 "2010-12-30T20:04:13Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Tough guys? I wear my Steelers stuff all the time, even the rare occasions that I go to Philadelphia, and I hear nary a peep. But hey, they sure are brave pouring beer on people and beating them up at the stadiums, aren’t they? It sure is hard to be a tough guy when you’re outnumbering people 50-1, isn’t it? Who’s tough now?

Why would Eagles fans care about the Steelers? Giants, yes. Cowboys, yes. Redskins, not in the last decade. Steelers, whatevs.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/26 "2010-12-30T20:23:54Z")

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> [@DxZero](#):
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> Why would Eagles fans care about the Steelers? Giants, yes. Cowboys, yes. Redskins, not in the last decade. Steelers, whatevs.

Now if you go to Philadelphia wearing _Penguins_ gear, then it’s a different story.  
Steelers enemy territory: Cleveland, Baltimore. Maybe Cinncinati.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/27 "2010-12-30T21:03:43Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> They only get violent when they’re liquored up, in groups, and can hide behind anonymity.

So, pretty much all the time? 😃

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/28 "2010-12-30T21:09:46Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Tough guys? I wear my Steelers stuff all the time, even the rare occasions that I go to Philadelphia, and I hear nary a peep. But hey, they sure are brave pouring beer on people and beating them up at the stadiums, aren’t they? It sure is hard to be a tough guy when you’re outnumbering people 50-1, isn’t it? Who’s tough now?

Yes, your terrifying awesomeness is just too much for the meek Eagles faithful. In fact, you may well be the most frightening anonymous Internet poster I’ve yet run across. If you say so, that’s good enough for me.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/29 "2010-12-30T21:18:02Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Now if you go to Philadelphia wearing _Penguins_ gear, then it’s a different story.  
> Steelers enemy territory: Cleveland, Baltimore. Maybe Cinncinati.

Baltimore’s the same way.

Ultimately it all comes down to this: for all the legendary hate that cities are alleged to have for people wearing the wrong colors, it’s all a myth. Nobody accosts you on the street except maybe to say something snide or give you a sneer. It’s at the game that you need worry about that, and there is where Philadelphia has a well-documented history of hooliganism.

I’ve been to several Steelers games and there has been nothing but a little smack talking and boos when the Bengals/Ravens fans get up to leave.

> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Yes, your terrifying awesomeness is just too much for the meek Eagles faithful. In fact, you may well be the most frightening anonymous Internet poster I’ve yet run across. If you say so, that’s good enough for me.

You’re a child looking for a fight. I’m not giving it to you. Enjoy your team’s 51st consecutive year of futility.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/30 "2010-12-30T21:26:27Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> You’re a child looking for a fight. I’m not giving it to you.

Right, you’ll just casually toss off snide, insulting comments, then when called on it, step away as if _you’re_ above such things.

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> Enjoy your team’s 51st consecutive year of futility.

We’ll see at the end of the year, brother, won’t we?

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/31 "2010-12-30T21:32:51Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Right, you’ll just casually toss off snide, insulting comments, then when called on it, step away as if _you’re_ above such things.

Above such things? Not hardly. But I am above your “ooh, you’re such an Internet tough guy” crap. If that’s the way you want to go, we have nothing to talk about. Refute what I said, if you can. And good luck to you in doing so.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/32 "2010-12-30T21:44:26Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Above such things? Not hardly. But I am above your “ooh, you’re such an Internet tough guy” crap. If that’s the way you want to go, we have nothing to talk about. Refute what I said, if you can. And good luck to you in doing so.

Seriously, you want me to refute that there’s not a single Eagles fan who isn’t meek and cowardly and unaggressive when not liquored up and in a crowd? Okay, I hereby refute it. I’ve given you as much evidence as you’ve provided to the contrary, so I’m sure that will satisfy you.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/33 "2010-12-30T22:36:03Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> ON THE OTHER HAND, the Redskins have a mascot that is an obvious racial slur. What the fucking fuck.

I concur with the letter writer who suggested changing the Redskins’ name to “The Washington Grinches”, in commemoration of the three words that best describe them.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/34 "2010-12-30T23:44:13Z")

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Anyone reading the back and forth between Airman and Stratocaster and thinking of the sports radio conversation that runs throughout the Dave Barry book “Big Trouble?”

No?

I’m the only one that read it? Carry on then.🙂

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/35 "2010-12-31T04:12:22Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> The Eagles suck for being willing to sign disgusting excuse for a human being Michael Vick, and Philadelphia sports fans (all sports) are the worst fucking fans on the planet. Even worse than New York fans. What a bunch of assholes.
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> ON THE OTHER HAND, the Redskins have a mascot that is an obvious racial slur. What the fucking fuck.
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> In closing, everyone in the OP’s anecdote sucks.

Oh you and Tucker Carlson can both go stick it up your ass. If Steve Jobs knew a guy who had a child sex conviction but he could help them roll out the new ipad faster and make it a better model that dude would be signed the fuck up and assigned an office hidden off in a corner.. And asked to take off “take your kid to work day”…  
Self righteous asshats..

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/36 "2010-12-31T04:15:20Z")

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You can repeat this OP at any sport bar which is showing a UFC event… Thank you for your assessment of so and so’s ground skills… can you now shut the fuck up so i can hear Joe Rogan??

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/37 "2010-12-31T04:32:54Z")

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> [@El\_Presidente](#):
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> 1. Of course, when we point how bad your team has been for lets say the past 10 years, you of course have to rip out the “how many Super Bowls has your team won?” argument. That works with Giants fans who won one recently, and Cowboys fans, because they won so many, but the Skins haven’t won anything since . . . . . 1994?  
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I’m a Bears fan and it embarrasses me when one of my own rallies around the 85 Bears when they are told we are a mediocre to shitty team. It’s VERY common and annoying.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/38 "2010-12-31T05:35:16Z")

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> [@Chicagojeff](#):
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> Oh you and Tucker Carlson can both go stick it up your ass. If Steve Jobs knew a guy who had a child sex conviction but he could help them roll out the new ipad faster and make it a better model that dude would be signed the fuck up and assigned an office hidden off in a corner.. And asked to take off “take your kid to work day”…  
> Self righteous asshats..

Yeah - God forbid a man who served his time is permitted to make a living afterwards. When you look at all the wife beating, raping, drunk driving & killing shits in the NFL who nobody raises an eyebrow about when they sign multimillion dollar contracts after joke/no time sentences, the reaction to Vick seems more than a little odd. Yes what he did was terrible, but he did his time, and while I wouldn’t hire him as a dog sitter, that isn’t his job. Much as I hate him, and the Eagles, he seems to be turning into a pretty impressive redemption story, obviously athletically but apparently also personally.

[QUOTE=El Presidente]  
3. Then you called the Eagles “pussies” because their game was moved from Sunday to Tuesday because of the snow. This from a fan of a team from a city that completely shuts down if there are flurries. Yes, the Eagles are pussies because they didn’t want to out the safety and well being of their fans in danger in the middle of a blizzard.

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To be fair, aren’t you both wrong here - the decision to move the game was made, I think, by the NFL.

Isn’t there an NFL rule, though, that Eagles fans aren’t allowed to complain about the behavior of any other team’s fans at any time? Thank God my son has grown out of his short fixation with the team so I no longer have to subject him/myself to the traveling Eagles supporters at FedEx once a year. Now if only he can come to the one true faith in the sanctity of Lambeau.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/39 "2010-12-31T14:32:23Z")

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> [@El\_Presidente](#):
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> 1. Of course, when we point how bad your team has been for lets say the past 10 years, you of course have to rip out the “how many Super Bowls has your team won?” argument. That works with Giants fans who won one recently, and Cowboys fans, because they won so many, but the Skins haven’t won anything since . . . . . 1994?

My proposal for sports championship smack talk: The Relevant Championship rule.

Instead of talking about the number of championships your team has, for smack talk you may only refer to the number of Relevant Championship. An RC is one that was won by your team which included at least two members of your current roster.

So rather than pulling out the stupidest-sounding word in sports history, “Sixburgh”, Steelers fans get to brag about their two RC’s. But they’re still behind the Patriots with their three RC’s. The Giants have the only RC in the NFC East. Unless someone can point out a Buccaneer other than Ronde Barber who was there in 2002, then Tampa Bay fans can forget about bragging about RCs.

Bragging on what your team did 20-odd years ago is just sad…following the RC rule eliminates this.

It won’t help the Eagles not suck, though.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-off-retarded-sports-fan/565738/40 "2010-12-31T14:38:35Z")

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Being a New Englander … meaning a Patriots and Red Sox fan … I’m on board with the Relevant Championship rule.

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