# Fuck opioid addicts **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 2, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988 "2018-02-02T00:18:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/1 "2018-02-02T00:18:23Z")
> **[Yes, people are really using an anti-diarrhea medicine to get high](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/01/imodium-diarrhea-drug-medicine/1086036001/)** > > The FDA issued a statement this week where stated that they're cracking down on the abuse of an OTC drug used to treat diarrhea, loperamide. Fuck opioid addicts, meth heads, and crack whores these fucking idiots will stop at nothing to get and maintain a high. Yet another simple OTC drug is being abused and the FDA is looking at ways to limit availability and packaging for the drug. This will ultimately increase prices and inconvenience everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/2 "2018-02-02T00:19:10Z")
+1 ---
**Author:** ![ZurBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/71e660/32.png) [@ZurBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZurBob)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/3 "2018-02-02T00:42:07Z")
And I bet deep down inside you’re a really pleasant person. ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/4 "2018-02-02T00:51:13Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > [Yes, people are really using an anti-diarrhea medicine to get high](http://on.freep.com/2E3u2z0) > > Fuck opioid addicts, meth heads, and crack whores these fucking idiots will stop at nothing to get and maintain a high. Yet another simple OTC drug is being abused and the FDA is looking at ways to limit availability and packaging for the drug. This will ultimately increase prices and inconvenience everyone else. What have you got against meth heads and crack whores? They’re not doing anything to affect the prices of the drugs you’re desiring. The venn diagram between opioid addicts and crack whores is very small through my observations. Or, are you saying that thanks to the meth heads and crack heads you cannot purchase over the counter meth and crack in which case I’d say true but probably a really good thing. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/5 "2018-02-02T00:59:50Z")
Loperamide abuse is nothing new; like dextromethorphan abuse, it’s been going on for as long as those morphine derivatives have been OTC. It’s simply seeing a surge of publicity right now. 50 years ago, adults could buy paregoric, which contained real live morphine, from a pharmacist with a signature. Then paregoric went to prescription and later controlled status, and has since been taken off the market altogether because so few doctors were prescribing it. A colleague who got her license in the early 1970s told me about a customer who was buying it regularly, and she questioned the customer, who was an RN no less, about it. She said that she would give her baby paregoric every night, so it would sleep all night, and an enema every morning. :eek: :mad: :eek: Forget about the college fund; just save up for all the therapy that kid would need later on, not to mention that s/he would not have normal bowel function. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/6 "2018-02-02T01:12:46Z")
> [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](#): > > The venn diagram between opioid addicts and crack whores is very small through my observations. Now that you mention it, it seems quite true. For what reason(s) is that? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/7 "2018-02-02T01:32:15Z")
Looking through the wrong end of the microscope? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/8 "2018-02-02T02:09:02Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Looking through the wrong end of the microscope? Endoscope. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/9 "2018-02-02T02:09:27Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > [Yes, people are really using an anti-diarrhea medicine to get high](http://on.freep.com/2E3u2z0) > > Fuck opioid addicts, meth heads, and crack whores these fucking idiots will stop at nothing to get and maintain a high. Yet another simple OTC drug is being abused and the FDA is looking at ways to limit availability and packaging for the drug. This will ultimately increase prices and inconvenience everyone else. Well, I for one agree with you. Well, it’s not so much the opiate addicts as much as it is the stupid FDA who is trying to take away “my” loperamide, which I have used responsibly and without issue for many years for IBS diarrhea issues. They seem to be operating on the idea that the only legit use for loperamide is traveler’s diarrhea so you only need a few days’ worth of it in one of those annoying blister packs. They’re making noises about decreasing access to NSAIDs, too, because of the ding-dongs who don’t read and/or don’t follow the dosing recommended on the label. You’re supposed to “get healthy” to take care of your pain. Well, sure, if you lose weight it might help your chronic knee pain. But it might not. Same for other chronic pain such as headaches. You can certainly make lifestyle changes, try physical therapy, try non-opioid medications, etc., but it might take a while for something to work, if it does, and in the meantime I guess you’re supposed to go around with a splitting headache because somebody took one too many Advil tablets. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/10 "2018-02-02T02:22:04Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > Now that you mention it, it seems quite true. For what reason(s) is that? WAG, addicts of a certain drug generally prefer a certain type of high ( that their DOC provides ), either feeling up or down so they would rather experiment with drugs that produce similar results and as long as the supply is there they will consume these drugs not those that will provide an inferior experience to them. Those who cross over are those more addicted to being high and not to a particular drug. There are a lot of folks like that. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/11 "2018-02-02T02:31:13Z")
It’s my opinion that ALL medications, except perhaps for antibiotics, should be freely available OTC to anyone who wants them. That way, the addicts and irresponsibles will quickly overdose and remove themselves from the gene pool, leaving the rest of us people who know how to manage our medications to do as we will. Clearly my method is the only reasonable and logical solution, the survival of our species depends on it. But nooo, instead we live in a world where just today, my chiropractor refused to prescribe Flexeril and recommended acupunture instead (because the DEA won’t randomly bust him for prescribing acupuncture, I guess?) while my pharmacy refuses to refill my benzo script because it hasn’t been 30 days yet (except January has THIRTY-ONE days, but no one there can count…) Plus I have to live with knowing that I’m on a DEA Watch List every time I buy Robitussin or Sudafed. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/12 "2018-02-02T02:35:33Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > [Yes, people are really using an anti-diarrhea medicine to get high](http://on.freep.com/2E3u2z0) > > Fuck opioid addicts, meth heads, and crack whores these fucking idiots will stop at nothing to get and maintain a high. Yet another simple OTC drug is being abused and the FDA is looking at ways to limit availability and packaging for the drug. This will ultimately increase prices and inconvenience everyone else. yeah, fuck all of those people. they trusted their doctors to do what was best for them, and in turn they prescribed them incredibly addictive medication based on a mountain of lies piled on them by the pharmaceutical industry. but yeah, all of those people who got hooked on opiods _prescribed to them_ are just losers and idiots. next time you have a thought, let it go. because you’re a fucking asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/13 "2018-02-02T02:55:26Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > It’s my opinion that ALL medications, except perhaps for antibiotics, should be freely available OTC to anyone who wants them. That way, the addicts and irresponsibles will quickly overdose and remove themselves from the gene pool, leaving the rest of us people who know how to manage our medications to do as we will. Clearly my method is the only reasonable and logical solution, the survival of our species depends on it. > > But nooo, instead we live in a world where just today, my chiropractor refused to prescribe Flexeril and recommended acupunture instead (because the DEA won’t randomly bust him for prescribing acupuncture, I guess?) while my pharmacy refuses to refill my benzo script because it hasn’t been 30 days yet (except January has THIRTY-ONE days, but no one there can count…) Plus I have to live with knowing that I’m on a DEA Watch List every time I buy Robitussin or Sudafed. Not saying I necessarily disagree with you but humans went centuries without using narcotics for their pains. it wasn’t great but it’s certainly not beyond the pale to reserve these drugs for those that really need them not those with pain controlled with other medications. After all, most opioid addicts these days come through the legit doctors prescriptions route and these people find out they have an addictive personality at this point and then they become the people you want to let die so you can get your drugs easier because you were the lucky roulette winner who did not become addicted yet. The better idea it seems to me is to stop over prescribing these opioids before patients become addicts and clog the system and make it even harder to get the meds you need. Full disclosure, I’m not an expert on opioids in general. I don’t get high off them. Never have and I’ve tried. They are wonderful for pain relief though and I’ve needed them a couple of times in my life but I’ve never had to refill the prescription I’ve left the hospital with. I’m arguing from observation, reading and conjecture not experience. I believe what I’m writing but I’m not really ready to die on this particular hill. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/14 "2018-02-02T03:04:26Z")
> [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](#): > > Not saying I necessarily disagree with you but humans went centuries without using narcotics for their pains. Opium, perhaps, where it wasn’t known. But it was widely used for recreational purposes where it was known, from Egypt to China. Humans are absolutely great at finding things in their environment to alter their consciousness and we’ve been doing it since before we were Homo Sapiens Sapiens. > **[Drugs in Ancient Cultures: A History of Drug Use and Effects](https://www.ancient-origins.net/opinion-guest-authors/drugs-ancient-cultures-history-drug-use-and-effects-006051)** > > The battle against drugs and drug usage rages on today and for good reason. [http://www.ancientfacts.net/how-serious-was-drug-abuse-in-ancient-times/](http://www.ancientfacts.net/how-serious-was-drug-abuse-in-ancient-times/) > **[Aztec use of entheogens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_use_of_entheogens)** > > The ancient Aztecs employed a variety of entheogenic plants and animals within their society. The various species have been identified through their depiction on murals, vases, and other objects. > There are many pieces of archaeological evidence in reference to the use of entheogens early in the history of Mesoamerica. Olmec burial sites with remains of the Bufo toad (Bufo marinus), Maya mushroom effigies,\[dubious – discuss\] and Spanish writings all point to a heavy involvement with psychoactive... ---
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/15 "2018-02-02T03:22:11Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > yeah, fuck all of those people. they trusted their doctors to do what was best for them, and in turn they prescribed them incredibly addictive medication based on a mountain of lies piled on them by the pharmaceutical industry. > > but yeah, all of those people who got hooked on opiods _prescribed to them_ are just losers and idiots. > > next time you have a thought, let it go. because you’re a fucking asshole. And you are a whiney bitch who thinks it is someone else’s fault when people fuck up. My doctor gave me drugs and I can’t get through life without them, WAH! Grow the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/16 "2018-02-02T03:31:25Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > And you are a whiney bitch who thinks it is someone else’s fault when people fuck up. My doctor gave me drugs and I can’t get through life without them, WAH! Grow the fuck up. You should stop posting drunk. Makes you look like a hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![ZurBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/71e660/32.png) [@ZurBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZurBob)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/17 "2018-02-02T03:32:52Z")
The inconveniences suffered here thus far, sound so… _ **Inconvenient** _. If y’all manage to eliminate your offending addicts either by death (or Fuckery? per the OP)… I wonder: What will be the _next_ scape goat for your problems? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/18 "2018-02-02T03:38:03Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > And you are a whiney bitch who thinks it is someone else’s fault when people fuck up. My doctor gave me drugs and I can’t get through life without them, WAH! Grow the fuck up. But that’s your OP right there. Someone has fucked up, it is not your fault and it is making it harder for you to get the medication you need. Would you offer yourself the advice to “grow up”? Would it help? ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/19 "2018-02-02T03:43:34Z")
I don’t think the linked story mentioned this, but another article on this subject said there had been 15 deaths in the last 10 years (IIRC). 15 deaths and we should limit availability to blister packs of eight. Hmmm. How big are ammo clips allowed to be? Why as big as you want in 42 states. Go 'Murica! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988/20 "2018-02-02T03:44:24Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > yeah, fuck all of those people. they trusted their doctors to do what was best for them, and in turn they prescribed them incredibly addictive medication based on a mountain of lies piled on them by the pharmaceutical industry. > > but yeah, all of those people who got hooked on opiods _prescribed to them_ are just losers and idiots. > > next time you have a thought, let it go. because you’re a fucking asshole. ^+1000 It’s one thing when you make a decision to smoke crack or do street drugs knowing the dangers, but a lot of drug addicts get hooked by something that doctors have prescribed. Big Pharma and Big Medicine have created the drug crisis - not just any drug crisis, but the worst in history. And there’s no accountability. Easier to lock up people with brown skin and dreadlocks than white guys who wear suits and drive SUVs. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-opioid-addicts/807988.md?page=2)