# Fuck OutKast with a pool cue **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444 "2004-11-07T02:27:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/21 "2004-11-07T06:16:39Z")
Well, if you will accept sympathy from an evil, right-wing repressor of free expression and a hate-filled warmonger…I feel your pain. I get 'em, too. I don’t understand why we can put a man on the moon, but…oh, never mind. 😛 And **astro** …hell, yeah, jump right in. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/22 "2004-11-07T06:27:41Z")
> [@PaulFitzroy](#): > > OutKast sucks. > > OutKast sucks because of this: > \* > I know you’d like to thank your shit don’t stank > But lean a little bit closer > See that roses really smell like poo-oo-ooo > Yeah, roses really smell like poo-oo-ooo\* Holy Christ, I sat in a very small room with a coworker who sould sing along to that all day long (apparently whoever programmed the local top 40 station decided that they could just do the top five and…make a better station? have fewer places to send royalty checks? Drive me completely fucking insane?). I thought that lyric was one of those classic “misunderstood” lines like “'scuse me while I kiss this guy.” I’ll be damned. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/23 "2004-11-07T08:05:10Z")
{Lisa} “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet” {Bart} Not if you called them stenchblossoms. {Homer} Or crapweeds. ---
**Author:** ![Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9dc877/32.png) [@Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightwatch_Trailer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/24 "2004-11-07T08:22:30Z")
Although I also dislike that particular song, Outkast is one of two (2) rappers/rap groups that I will occasionally listen to (the other being Eminem). They’ve got funky beats and plenty of their lyrics are humorous instead of just being the same old stupid sex/money spiel in so much other rappage. They’re almost a parody of rap in that respect. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/25 "2004-11-07T08:32:47Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > And people wonder why the conservative contingent in this country is fed up. :rolleyes: I hate OutKast and this stupid-ass song, but if you persist in your moronitude I’ll have to defend them for pissing off idiots like you. Please shut up and let me go on hating them. Don’t take that away from me, douche. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/26 "2004-11-07T08:54:20Z")
Okay, crap sandwich, you’re on. 😃 Hate away…I’ll not interfere. But somehow, I’m afraid I’m gonna have to point out to you that you’ve let your anti- **SA** bias get the better of you. I was talking about that nasty-ass slut L’il Kim – not Outkast, who often actually has a kind of _Earth, Wind & Fire_ groove goin’ on. (And here I was, just starting to think that you’ve become more mature and reasonable lately.) Oh, well…c’est la vie. But just for the record, I’m one of those weird conservatives who likes that kind of music. I like today’s music more than the music of my own era…damn hippies, anyway. I think today’s music is more fun and more reflective of true human nature than the music of previous times. I just don’t like aggressively obnoxious and calculatedly nasty people such her. They are a blight on civility. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/27 "2004-11-07T16:23:25Z")
Just don’t buy the records/Cds. That’s the best you can do. I sort of like Caroline, it’s funny. But I liked Biz Mark E and his booger picking song too, for its sheer silliness. Go figure. At least it isn’t the old, tired kill the po-lice and diss the ho nonsense that was constantly churned out for a few years. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/28 "2004-11-07T16:50:49Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > I just don’t like aggressively obnoxious and calculatedly nasty people such her. They are a blight on civility. I used to hate Kim until somebody pointed out why. She explained that Kim’s shtick is to turn around the misogyny in male rap songs by treating men as meanless sex objects and dismissing them as worthless when they don’t live up to their sole purpose (pleasing her sexually). After that explanation I started thinking of her as pretty clever… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/29 "2004-11-07T17:25:55Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > I used to hate Kim until somebody pointed out why. She explained that Kim’s shtick is to turn around the misogyny in male rap songs by treating men as meanless sex objects and dismissing them as worthless when they don’t live up to their sole purpose (pleasing her sexually). After that explanation I started thinking of her as pretty clever… Some of it is clever, sounds decent and is pretty funny too. “Don’t want no short dick man.” “Boom I fucked your boyfriend” Hey, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/30 "2004-11-07T18:42:42Z")
**Guin** Huh? OutKast are a pretty liberal band–why would they sing shit like that? ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/31 "2004-11-07T19:31:59Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Some of it is clever, sounds decent and is pretty funny too. > > “Don’t want no short dick man.” > > “Boom I fucked your boyfriend” > > Hey, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, isn’t it? _This junk in the trunk ain’t made for chumps._ I think Lil Kim is great. She’s the prototype for every new female rapper now, but when she first started doing what the boy-rappers were doing (singing about her capabilities as a playa and her amaaaazing skills in pleasing the opposite sex) it was fairly new and cool. Plus she is a fashion/plastic surgery train wreck, which is entertaining to watch. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/32 "2004-11-07T19:44:09Z")
I believe that it is considered to be only polite when fucking someone up the ass with something to ‘fuck them up the ass sideways.’ At least, if you don’t expect a second round of anal. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/33 "2004-11-07T19:52:48Z")
> [@bluecanary](#): > > **Guin** Huh? OutKast are a pretty liberal band–why would they sing shit like that? No, she was sniping at PaulFitzroy, who indeed hates all Muslims and seems to wish to see them killed. OutKast has nothing on Fitz here for obnoxious and disgusting verbal diarrhea. In fack, OutKast is pretty clever most of the time . . . ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/34 "2004-11-07T21:48:03Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Can I pit Eminem for rhyming “shady” & “imitatey”? You could if he rhymed that though. It’s “All you other Slim Shadys are just imitating.” Maybe the syllables “tating” don’t rhyme perfectly with “shady.” He’s just a modern day Emily Dickinson! ---
**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/35 "2004-11-07T21:51:31Z")
I really like that song. As long as you don’t take it too seriously it’s actually quite good. ---
**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/36 "2004-11-07T22:07:04Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Well, **Paul** , you oughtta tune in to L’il Kim some day and listen to her singing about her boyfriend’s (or more likely, boyfriends [no apostrophe]) “big-ass dick and hurricane tongue,” or “I got the magic clit…I get licked once, I get licked twice…,” or from the first South Park CD: “You think I’m pussy? I dare you to stick your dick in this!” > > All of this from the CD of my 17 year old neice. > > And people wonder why the conservative contingent in this country is fed up. :rolleyes: Let me guess: because they’re humorless douchebags? Seriously, what’s wrong with a little bawdy humor? If it’s good enough for Shakespeare and Chaucer, it’s good enough for rap music. ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/37 "2004-11-07T22:10:28Z")
She speaks of country matters! fatuous guffaw ---
**Author:** ![Kricket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f14d63/32.png) [@Kricket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kricket)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/38 "2004-11-07T22:11:54Z")
The lyrics aren’t poo poo they are boo boo, and it’s a song, get over it. It’s just one more song about a person feeling done wrong by another. It’s a high school song about a guy who wants to get with a chick who thinks her shit don’t stink and he wants to point out that yeah it does. Catch the video once, it’s funny as heck. Are you pitting Outkast as a whole, or Speakerboxx and The Love Below which are the two bands who make the one and just happened to make a few songs together. They have both been around for a while before this album and the one guy from Speakerboxx got kinda blunt about it at a music awards show, basically saying thanks for noticing us finally we have been around for a while. Not all songs are written to make sense, or make everyone happy happy joy joy. ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/39 "2004-11-07T22:22:59Z")
Outkast has been around for awhile. They consist of two guys: Big Boi and Andre 3000. They made music together for a long time and put out many albums under the name Outkast. For their most recent musical venture, the two personas split off from each other completely, and they released two solo albums sold as a double-album, but still under the umbrella title Outkast. Big Boi’s half is Speakerboxx. Andre 3000’s is The Love Below. They’re album titles - not two seperate bands. ---
**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444/40 "2004-11-07T22:32:32Z")
‘Roses’ is the only song on the double album that features both Big Boi and Andre 3000. This is represented in the video by two high school “gangs” called Speakerboxx and The Love Below getting into a brawl. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-outkast-with-a-pool-cue/273444.md?page=3)