# Fuck Political Correctness.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957 "2004-02-19T04:56:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/42 "2004-02-19T13:05:36Z")

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Ah, the petulant tantrum of the privileged teen.

Let us complement his rant in the manner of indulging an infant who has just painted a picture of a squiggle.

Great job **Deagan**!

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**Author:** ![elfbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b782af/32.png) [@elfbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfbabe)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/43 "2004-02-19T13:12:16Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> …like those vending machines that don’t take wrinkled dollar bills or airplane peanuts.

I don’t know where YOU live, but MY vending machines have ALWAYS taken airplane peanuts!

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/44 "2004-02-19T13:38:28Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> What, you think humans are the ultimate evolutionary product? That we’re somehow special? We’ve been here a mere 30,000 years or so. Sharks, to pick an example, have been around for over 400 million years. Think we’ll make it that long? I don’t.

> [@World Eater](#):
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> **Max\_Castle** , you are a real ass you know that?

How so?  
I for one think humans are better than (the rest of) animals. That we are somehow special. And since natural evolution has likely stopped for humans and our husbandry animals, also the ultimate evolutionary product. What has time spend got to do with anything? You come back when a shark has written the equivalent of Hamlet of composed the ninth symphony. Until then I’ll prefer to eat shark steak and leave my fork off my neighbour – even though she sure does look delicious.

- Rune

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/45 "2004-02-19T13:57:36Z")

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When people say, “I’m anti–P.C.,” they are really saying they are pro-bigotry, that they want to go back to the days when black people knew their place, when women were housewives, and gay people stayed in the closet with the door locked. They are saying that they want to be free to denigrate entire groups of people for their ethnicity/faith/sexual orientation without criticism in return. (Not that this necessarily refers to the OP, I’m just sayin’.)

Now to the OP. While, in very, very broad terms, I agree that the culture of sensitivity has become a nuisance, the OP’s polar reversal, that there are no reasons for sensitivity, is equally BS. For example, the OP says, “Political Homosexuals. Shut up! I support Gay rights. I get it. BORING, NEXT!” While I’m gratified that we have the OP’s support, the question of gay rights in this country remains unsettled. Gay marriage is still illegal, gay people who come out of the closet can fired for revealing their orientation, and the ruling party of this country makes political capital by demonizing gay people as something less than human. So, at least IMO, gay rights are not yet boring. I look forward to the day when this is so.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/46 "2004-02-19T14:03:10Z")

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> [@DeaganTheWolf](#):
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> I don’t give a flying fuck if you happen to be black, hispanic, white, or green; if your a little media drone who never bothered to try and **enducate** or better yourself, don’t expect my admiration for your pathetic little “culture”.

Is there a word for when you do this and kind of derail your own post? If not, why not?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/47 "2004-02-19T14:12:38Z")

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> [@Max\_Castle](#):
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> **Lobsang** stated animals were _better_ that humans. I think that’s stupid.

Oh there’s always one overly PC human activist in any thread.

Ooooh, getting all offended because the humans have been insulted? First they come for your human-hide wallet. Then they stop you from eating people from Florida you met over the internet. Well I’m not going to take it any more. You can take my human skin body stocking, but you’ll never take my freedom!

From (someone else’s) cold dead hand!!!

There. I’ve said it.  
😉

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/48 "2004-02-19T14:14:03Z")

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> [@mouthbreather](#):
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> **skutir** , You’re so enlightened! How do you do it? I’d love to bring some white-guilt baggage on board with my peaches-and-cream life in this kickass demographic we’re in. If only I could figure out how… Is there some correspondence course I can sign up for?

You’re metaphors are too badly mixed to know what you’re asking, mouthbreather. I guess the answer is, you don’t have to feel guilty OR oppressed. You can simply live your life and others live theirs. On the other hand, if you DO want to complain about blacks, gays, women, and environmentalists – OMG, having opinions of their own, that get this – DIFFER from yours, and (here’s the kicker) EXPRESSING those opinions with NO REGARDS TO YOUR COMFORT LEVEL – then complain away. You have the right to. But then, I have the right to say you are a whining little bitch, which, of course, you would be.

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**Author:** ![NaughtyMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@NaughtyMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NaughtyMe)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/49 "2004-02-19T14:32:31Z")

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You lot are _sooooo_ cute when you take things all personal and start fighting. Kitchy kitchy coooo!

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/50 "2004-02-19T14:54:40Z")

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> [@WinstonSmith](#):
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> How so?

Because…

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> Lobsang stated animals were better that humans. I think that’s stupid. That doesn’t mean I think humans are better than animals, fuck you very much. That doesn’t mean I think humans are special, fuckwad. You didn’t even get your numbers right, assmunch. We’re all equally stupid, annoying, and worthless. Especially you.

…sounds like something an ass would say. YMMV

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**Author:** ![DeaganTheWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DeaganTheWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeaganTheWolf)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/51 "2004-02-19T14:58:33Z")

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> [@Dyke Van Dick](#):
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> You insecure, pathetic little twat. Your ridiculous world view will make you a good Republican once you’ve reached voting age in about five years.

That’s called Hyperbole. The survival of my Person, and enough females to continue the race, takes precedent over the poor little bunnies in the labs. That’s called evolution. Animals outcompete each other and the strongest survives. We happen to be good adapters.

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**Author:** ![DeaganTheWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DeaganTheWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeaganTheWolf)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/52 "2004-02-19T15:07:10Z")

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> [@skutir](#):
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> What I’m asking is, is there any whinier more put upon drama queen psuedo victim than the white male American? To put it another way, shut the fuck up, you whiny little bitches. You want to shrug off the complaints of people who’ve been oppressed for centuries, then have a little hissy fit because you can’t get peanuts on airplane or because some woman on TV tells you your a bastard. So I ask: Is there any worse kind of whiny little bitch than the white male American, the wealthiest and most powerful demographic on the planet? The question is rhetorical, because the answer is obvious. The white male American is, in fact, the most ingrateful, self-pitying, wretched and pathetic of the PC “I’m a victim” stereotype. I happen to be one, myself, but I call 'em as I see 'em. Nobody has less to complain about, but nobody complains more.

Riiiiiiiiiight. Let me make a little clarification for you. So called “white” males are among the MOST discriminated group against in the US. After all If you appear White your ancestors MUST have been part of that imperialistc society that did all those naughty things so many years ago. I’m central Asian fuckwad. That means i’m a genetic mutt of a lot of different cultures. I got born with the White physiogamy, as opposed to the mongol, uyghur, arabic, or pure russian types that I also could have been born with. My relatives didn’t make it to the good ol USA until two generations ago. So I haven’t oppressed anyone, and my relatives haven’t either. I’m NOT going to shoulder the burden of someone else’s relatives sins. FUCK THAT. If you want to better yourself, and your groups position in this world, you are going to do so by working HARD. You won’t achieve anything by whinging about the past constantly, and playing up on the supposed guilt I ought to have.

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**Author:** ![DeaganTheWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DeaganTheWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeaganTheWolf)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/53 "2004-02-19T15:08:12Z")

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> [@Lazlo](#):
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> Okay. I’m calling dibs on this for a sig line. That cool **DeagantheWolf**?

Help yourself.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/54 "2004-02-19T15:09:06Z")

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> [@skutir](#):
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> You’re metaphors are too badly mixed to know what you’re asking, mouthbreather. I guess the answer is, you don’t have to feel guilty OR oppressed. You can simply live your life and others live theirs. On the other hand, if you DO want to complain about blacks, gays, women, and environmentalists – OMG, having opinions of their own, that get this – DIFFER from yours, and (here’s the kicker) EXPRESSING those opinions with NO REGARDS TO YOUR COMFORT LEVEL – then complain away. You have the right to. But then, I have the right to say you are a whining little bitch, which, of course, you would be.

And your brush is so broad and heavy it’s falling out of your cute little hand. I don’t disagree with the core of what you’re saying here (what I just quoted) but that’s hardly the same as saying:

\>\>\>“Is there any worse kind of whiny little bitch than the white male American”

Would you feel comfortable coming in here and stating anything at all negative about the entire black male American or the Chinese female population? I highly doubt it, because you couldn’t come up with one thing that would apply to all of them. So don’t pull this shit with white males, either.

Steaming turds smell the same, no matter whose lawn they are left on.

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**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/55 "2004-02-19T15:11:05Z")

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Good for you, \*\*Deagan The Wolf \*\* ~ that took balls.

I agree with a lot of what you said. I guess the only problem is that when you’re listing them in a rant, it’s hard to get your full point across. They’re all separate mini-rants under the _Anti-PC_ heading.

I’m not worried for a second about the spotted owls. When you’re taking a crap in the treeless woods, with your jeans around your ankles, I’m willing to bet you’d have a hard time grabbing an owl from the sky to wipe yourself with. Life is good.

Unfortunately, people like Bill Maher get the shaft when they speak their minds. So consider yourself amongst good company.

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/56 "2004-02-19T15:15:36Z")

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> [@mouthbreather](#):
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> And your brush is so broad and heavy it’s falling out of your cute little hand. I don’t disagree with the core of what you’re saying here (what I just quoted) but that’s hardly the same as saying:
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> \>\>\>“Is there any worse kind of whiny little bitch than the white male American”
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> Would you feel comfortable coming in here and stating anything at all negative about the entire black male American or the Chinese female population? I highly doubt it, because you couldn’t come up with one thing that would apply to all of them. So don’t pull this shit with white males, either.
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> Steaming turds smell the same, no matter whose lawn they are left on.

Two big differences: one, I am a member of the group which I pit. two, I am pitting a group of people whom are not and have never been categorically oppressed in this country.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/57 "2004-02-19T15:24:52Z")

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> [@skutir](#):
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> Two big differences: one, I am a member of the group which I pit. two, I am pitting a group of people whom are not and have never been categorically oppressed in this country.

This contry? This country! Help I’m being marginalized by that evil man. **Deagan** shut up and bite it down. White man’s burden and all. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/58 "2004-02-19T15:28:47Z")

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Your “major” differences:

One: I don’t give a shit if you are an albino from Bangladesh with 3 legs and a thumb growing out of your forehead – If you posted a gross generalization about them then, you should be called on it.

Two: Please answer my last question about where I can go to add a healthy dose of white guilt to my day-to-day routine.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/59 "2004-02-19T15:35:46Z")

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I’ve got to go with Giraffe on this one. I’ve seen more **shocking OPs** on Archie Comics Boards.

you’re a boor who hates everyone. amazing. no really. i mean it.

And when did basic consideration and respect for your fellow man become PC? I’ve been taught that my whole life. It’s part of my religious zealotry.

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**Author:** ![CloudCar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@CloudCar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CloudCar)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/60 "2004-02-19T15:43:05Z")

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What about the Sex Slave trade? Is it PC to elevate women and girls forced into prostitution to the level of “human being”?

Sweat Shop Labor. I bet if you were to learn about some of the deplorable conditions that some are forced or sometimes tricked into you wouldn’t consider that to be political correctness gone too far.

Then again you probably would because you are clearly an asshole, fuck you.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-political-correctness/229957/61 "2004-02-19T15:51:21Z")

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> [@WinstonSmith](#):
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> Until then I’ll prefer to eat shark steak

Shark steak?, I´d _love_ to see your face eating that meat. 😃

> [@gobear](#):
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> When people say, “I’m anti–P.C.,” they are really saying they are pro-bigotry, that they want to go back to the days when black people knew their place, when women were housewives, and gay people stayed in the closet with the door locked. They are saying that they want to be free to denigrate entire groups of people for their ethnicity/faith/sexual orientation without criticism in return. (Not that this necessarily refers to the OP, I’m just sayin’.)

In fact, I see PC as a reversed bigotry, like saying someone is “differently abled”, it´s like one wouldn´t touch the persons issues with a 10 foot stick; or that thing some months ago of people lobbying to change the computer terms [Slave/Master drives](http://mysite.verizon.net/vze793eu/mstr_slave.htm) , which assumes that the terms are related to slavery, so then who´s the bigot there?. I´m not by any means a bigot in any sense of the word, but PC IMO it´s like putting a glove to handshake someone, one says is to protect the other person, the other person will probably take it as being treated like a someone undesirable.

[Some food for though](http://www.blind.net/bpg00005.htm)

> [@](#):
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> pretentious euphemisms that characterize almost everything we do and say. Euphemisms and the politically correct language which they exemplify are sometimes only prissy, sometimes ridiculous, and sometimes tiresome. Often, however, they are more than that. At their worst they obscure clear thinking and damage the very people and causes they claim to benefit.

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