# Fuck "progressives" and the system for not respecting Jay Inslee **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 6, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989 "2020-03-06T02:41:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/21 "2020-03-06T17:36:43Z")
Fuck Inslee for running a lousy campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/22 "2020-03-06T17:43:46Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Seriously, Andrew Yang? Marianne Williamson? Tulsi Gabbard? No offense, but Mayor Pete? > > Over Jay Inslee? An environmentalist, a solid governor of an entire state that includes not just urban Seattle but also rural rabid right wing portions of eastern Washington? I like Jay Inslee. He’s a decent guy and a decent governor. I sent him money this year and have supported his campaigns in Washington. In my opinion, however, Mayor Pete is smarter, more articulate, and would be a better president. Inslee is better than the others, for sure. Also, as others have noted, Inslee has almost zero support from the Republicans in Washington State. He’s not a uniter. (I’m not sure it’s even possible anymore). ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/23 "2020-03-06T17:45:54Z")
I like Inslee a lot. I like his clear-headed thinking, his ability to speak and transmit his ideas with eloquence. He’s smart, savvy and comes across as trustworthy. He had two problems this year: He’s a relative unknown and he’s from a coastal state. Jay Inslee is smart enough to recognize he never had a chance. But gee, how do you get known to a national audience? You jump onto the national stage. He picked a good, important issue and he went out and started answering the “Who is Jay Inslee?” question. I’d estimate at least half the people running in the Democratic primaries were doing the same, as well as learning the rigors of running a national campaign. A practice run. In addition to Inslee, Booker, Hickenlooper, Harris, Gillibrand, Castro, Swalwell, Buttegieg, Bennet, Bullock, DeBlasio (remember him?), O’Rourke, Moulton, Patrick, Ryan, Yang and others who didn’t do even as well as these, all were simply trying to raise their profiles on the national stage. Few had any real expectation of winning… this time around. I don’t characterize it as a stunt. It’s just politics. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/24 "2020-03-06T17:52:37Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Inslee is okay but he’s sort of my boss (or at least at the top of the chain of command where I work) so my views are probably a bit skewed there. Him being governor has been a good thing for me as government employee so I bear him no animosity. > > His problem as a presidential candidate was that he was a one issue guy. He ran on just the environment. I don’t think he was making a serious push to be a candidate, I think it was more just advertising himself so that he could get a job in DC as an advisor or cabinet member or something. His run was more of a stunt than anything else. This, exactly. He could have taken a lead and run with it, but never seemed to really be serious about it. If he’s learned anything from this and tries again, I’d give him chance, but I’d have to genuinely question what he’s going for and why. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/25 "2020-03-06T17:56:14Z")
I like Inslee too, by the way. I’d certainly prefer him to Biden. ---
**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/26 "2020-03-06T18:32:55Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I live on the WA/ID border and align myself with WA for the politics (ID and MT for the outdoorsy stuff - we have it in WA, but ID and MT have it more). I think Inslee has done a great job as governor. Not sure how someone has mentioned he hasn’t done much? We have one of the highest minimum wages, a paid family leave program, and a paid sick leave program. > > If I were someone making minimum wage living in my area, I would definitely move to WA for a wage that is twice ID along with several programs to help those folks. Plus, we have weed 😃 > > I saw him speak while on the campaign tour and he had a good presentation. He is a bit bland though so I can see how he didn’t grab everyone’s attention. Washington’s high minimum wage has nothing to do with Inslee. The paid leave rules are nice. He has done a good job of standing by Washington’s existing strong environmental laws in the face the current administration’s gutting of federal standards. But I would hope any non-Republican governor would do that. So I remain meh. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/27 "2020-03-06T18:50:12Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and remember feeling somewhat shut out of the national political process. Part of that was being a kid, but I think part of it was also geographical. There are almost no politicians from there who have made any kind of name for themselves nationally. I don’t remember any presidential candidates ever campaigning there. The state primary (or was it a caucus?) never made the network news. I heard that Inslee was running for the nomination this cycle, but that’s about all I heard. You would have heard a little more in state - but not much. He’s not a flashy guy. He’s a good guy and a competent politician who tends to do a pretty good job most of the time, but he’s not exciting at all. He’ll be governor again because the state republicans are bound to coalesce behind someone bizarre, but no one is going to get their ballot and think “Yay! I get to vote for Inslee.” There’s more excitement around the Lt. Governor, an interesting person in a blah office. He’s not the first person from the NW to be overlooked (I still think that Locke would have made a fantastic VP candidate 4 years ago). > [@Procrustus](#): > > Also, as others have noted, Inslee has almost zero support from the Republicans in Washington State. He’s not a uniter. The WA State Republicans are currently trying to walk the line of claiming to disapprove of [this guy](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/washington-state-rep-matt-shea-engaged-in-domestic-terrorism-against-the-u-s-says-state-house-inquiry/) without actually kicking him out (they don’t actually want him gone, they just want him quieter). Not having their support isn’t a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/28 "2020-03-06T18:52:29Z")
Sanders was a better more interesting more activist candidate in the early running. Now at the prospect of a true contest we are all askeered of our shadows. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/29 "2020-03-06T19:05:16Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > The WA State Republicans are currently trying to walk the line of claiming to disapprove of [this guy](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/washington-state-rep-matt-shea-engaged-in-domestic-terrorism-against-the-u-s-says-state-house-inquiry/) without actually kicking him out (they don’t actually want him gone, they just want him quieter). Not having their support isn’t a bad thing. Absolutely agree. I was just commenting on the OP’s suggestion that Inslee has strong bi-partisan support. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/30 "2020-03-06T22:14:35Z")
Time and time again it is shown that the most important thing in politics is name recognition. If people don’t know you, they won’t vote for you even if your views line up with theirs 100%. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/31 "2020-03-06T22:19:59Z")
I had never heard of Inslee until this thread. If he was actually running for something (was he? President? Which ticket?) then he did a terrible job. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/32 "2020-03-06T22:36:42Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Fuck Inslee for running a lousy campaign. …and screwing the country out of a quite alright\* president. - high praise in PacNW dialect ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/33 "2020-03-06T23:49:03Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > I had never heard of Inslee until this thread. > If he was actually running for something (was he? President? Which ticket?) then he did a terrible job. Yup. No ads, no news stories. Never heard of him. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/34 "2020-03-07T11:26:44Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > And fuck you all for not acknowledging that I’m right Hey! I usually take your side. 😛 > [@stretch](#): > > Inslee is just not an exciting dude. I think this is the answer. Early in the cycle, candidates are trying to attract “journalists” and moneyed activists rather than voters. **But all people** — especially journalists — \*\*are attracted by razzle-dazzle rather than competence. \*\* Inslee would have gone further if he’d peddled _Uncle Jay’s Snake Oil_ instead of _Environmentalism_. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/35 "2020-03-07T21:02:51Z")
Inslee would sure have made a better President than what we have. He hasn’t been a perfect governor, but he’s been extremely proactive regarding COVID-19 here in WA. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/36 "2020-03-07T21:19:54Z")
Well, Inslee was one of about three dozen Random White Males That No One Had Heard Of in the race. Lessee, there was Inslee, and Delaney, and Bullock, and Sestak, and Swalwell, and Hickenlooper, and Bennet, and a bunch more that I’m sure I’ve forgotten. That’s a tough group to rise up out of, when there are so many struggling for scraps of recognition. Inslee may have been the best of 'em, for all I know, but he had a very long way to go to break out from that pack. Also, as has been noted, even if he wasn’t a one-issue candidate it sure seemed that way. And while he was probably more passionate about climate change than the average candidate, that’s a matter of, um, degree. There weren;t many (any?) folks up on that debate stage who thought climate change wasn’t a significant problem. Doesn’t make it any easier to break out. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/37 "2020-03-07T21:44:22Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > I had never heard of Inslee until this thread. > If he was actually running for something (was he? President? Which ticket?) then he did a terrible job. Same here. Who? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/38 "2020-03-07T22:38:18Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Fuck Inslee for running a lousy campaign. It’s much easier to blame progressives who donate billions of dollars and contribute millions of votes and volunteer hours to democratic politics. I will say, blaming us for inslee losing us a new one. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/39 "2020-03-07T23:07:22Z")
Trump calling Inslee “a snake” and instructing Pence not to be civil to him on Pence’s Coronavirus tour yesterday probably boosted Inslee’s visibility considerably. (I’d post a link, but I’m on my phone and it keeps picking up the long redirect URL. Just Google it.) ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989/40 "2020-03-07T23:54:11Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > I had never heard of Inslee until this thread. > If he was actually running for something (was he? President? Which ticket?) then he did a terrible job. Another vote for this. If I’d heard of him before now, I don’t remember it. > [@asahi](#): > > And fuck you all for not acknowledging that I’m right Why not just make this your sig? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-progressives-and-the-system-for-not-respecting-jay-inslee/848989.md?page=3)