# Fuck Ray Rice. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 11, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247 "2014-09-11T23:54:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/41 "2014-09-13T00:15:08Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > It never ceases to amaze me, although it shouldn’t, how in this day and age (and with all the information out there), there’s still people who don’t understand how domestic abuse works. Is it willful if ignorance or what? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand why these women stand by their “man.” It’s the 21st century, people, learn some damn things about shit you don’t necessarily understand. Well don’t just sit there graspin’ your hand in pain, lay some education on our asses! ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/42 "2014-09-13T00:36:08Z")
I just want to get in early on the ‘Fuck Adrian Peterson’ bandwagon… ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/43 "2014-09-13T02:06:58Z")
> [@cmosdes](#): > > I don’t know if he is qualified to do anything. But, for the sake of argument, suppose he is qualified to do any job in the whole wide world, including running back in the NFL. You’ve stated he should not be allowed in the NFL. Where is is now allowed to pursue a career? Is he not allowed in the NFL to protect the image of the NFL or because he is scum and undeserving of having a job at all? Michael Vick served his time and went back to the NFL. Ray Rice can play again after he serves time, as if it’s up to me, 'cause clearly no one is rushing to throw his butt in jail, if he is qualified to do so. I stated I thought he belonged in jail. That is irrespective of where he works. If you assault people, if you abuse your spouse/partner, you should go to jail. As far as to why he got shitcanned, since that seems to be getting pulled into this, I assume he got shitcanned because he had a morals clause, and folks considered immoral for him to punch his lady. In a world of “at will” employment, one probably ought not to take actions on video considered criminal. Right now now, he’s probably unemployable almost anywhere. Again, not my fault and not my problem. If he works on it, he’ll climb out of this gutter. Why I should care is beyond me entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/44 "2014-09-13T02:18:33Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I just want to get in early on the ‘Fuck Adrian Peterson’ bandwagon… Too late. 🙂 [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=734040](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=734040) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/45 "2014-09-13T04:57:17Z")
> [@Sateryn76](#): > > Too late. 🙂 > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=734040](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=734040) My post is about an hour earlier…🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/46 "2014-09-13T05:17:11Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > Maybe he finally got tired of her physically abusing him. (Watch the video again). What a frikkin asshole. I watched the video. A couple of light slaps doesn’t merit two punches, the second one of which knocked her out. I could possibly see, if she really full-out attacked him, him reflexively lashing out. But the video doesn’t indicate this. What is most appalling is his almost total indifference after cold-cocking her. He mostly just stands there without making the slightest attempt to see how badly she might be hurt. This isn’t the behavior of someone who was just trying to defend himself and inadvertently did more damage than he intended. This is the behavior of a total asshole. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/47 "2014-09-13T14:26:33Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Well don’t just sit there graspin’ your hand in pain, lay some education on our asses! It’s been done to death, most recently in the _other_ Rice thread, but for those who still live under a rock out in the middle of nowhere, search Google for “Stockholm Syndrome.” That’s close enough comparably to explain things to those who still. just. don’t. get. it. ---
**Author:** ![OurLordPeace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e8c25b/32.png) [@OurLordPeace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OurLordPeace)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/48 "2014-09-13T20:01:00Z")
> [@liontamer](#): > > What he did to that **girl** is a shame. Woman. > [@yojimbo](#): > > Lots of beaten women stay with violent **cunts**. It’s not for me to judge their poor decisions / dependency issues. I feel very comfortable judging a violent **cunt** who beats another human being with such ease though. YMMV. That’s sexist, unless perhaps we were talking about abusive lesbians, which we weren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/49 "2014-09-13T20:48:02Z")
> [@OurLordPeace](#): > > Woman. Oh take your self-righteous blather and shove it. My friends and I refer to ourselves as girls, or even -gasp- chicks! all the time. Guess we’re anti-feminist. > [@](#): > > That’s sexist, unless perhaps we were talking about abusive lesbians, which we weren’t. The word “cunt” shouldn’t be considered any worse than “dick”, and quite frankly, treating it like it that way is what’s sexist, not the word itself. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/50 "2014-09-13T20:54:31Z")
> [@OurLordPeace](#): > > That’s sexist, unless perhaps we were talking about abusive lesbians, which we weren’t. No, the poster is from Ireland, I’m from the UK. “cunt” in these countries is most definitely not a sexist term. If anything it is used pretty much exclusively to describe…well…a male cunt, one displaying cuntish behaviour. Ray Rice is pretty much a dictionary definition of a cunt. I don’t throw the term around lightly as it is the highest form of abuse in my verbal arsenal, but if I don’t use it for Ray Rice then when will I ever use it? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/51 "2014-09-13T21:13:34Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > No, the poster is from Ireland, I’m from the UK. “cunt” in these countries is most definitely not a sexist term. If anything it is used pretty much exclusively to describe…well…a male cunt, one displaying cuntish behaviour. Ray Rice is pretty much a dictionary definition of a cunt. > I don’t throw the term around lightly as it is the highest form of abuse in my verbal arsenal, but if I don’t use it for Ray Rice then when will I ever use it? Don’t bother trying to explain yourself to **OurLordPeace**. He’s only posting to let people know how much better he is than them, he doesn’t actually have anything useful to contribute. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/52 "2014-09-13T21:23:20Z")
Giraffe Girl, you cun’t be serious! ---
**Author:** ![OurLordPeace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e8c25b/32.png) [@OurLordPeace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OurLordPeace)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/53 "2014-09-13T21:36:52Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Oh take your self-righteous blather and shove it. My friends and I refer to ourselves as girls, or even -gasp- chicks! all the time. Guess we’re anti-feminist. Would you call Ray Rice a boy? > [@](#): > > The word “cunt” shouldn’t be considered any worse than “dick”, and quite frankly, treating it like it that way is what’s sexist, not the word itself. > > :rolleyes: I agree, but you’ll notice that Ray Rice is male-bodied. ---
**Author:** ![OurLordPeace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e8c25b/32.png) [@OurLordPeace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OurLordPeace)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/54 "2014-09-13T21:38:44Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > No, the poster is from Ireland, I’m from the UK. “cunt” in these countries is most definitely not a sexist term. If anything it is used pretty much exclusively to describe…well…a male cunt, one displaying cuntish behaviour. Ray Rice is pretty much a dictionary definition of a cunt. > I don’t throw the term around lightly as it is the highest form of abuse in my verbal arsenal, but if I don’t use it for Ray Rice then when will I ever use it? So is it fine to use “gay” as a pejorative, even if you don’t have a problem with gay people, or use “pimp” as a term for a suave man, even if you don’t endorse all the awful things that pimps do? ---
**Author:** ![OurLordPeace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e8c25b/32.png) [@OurLordPeace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OurLordPeace)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/55 "2014-09-13T21:41:24Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Don’t bother trying to explain yourself to **OurLordPeace**. He’s only posting to let people know how much better he is than them, he doesn’t actually have anything useful to contribute. It’s not about me. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/56 "2014-09-13T22:01:13Z")
Learn the differences in culture. In Britain and Ireland, “cunt” is just another insult, like “fucker”, or “asshole”. It’s not considered to be specifically male or female. > [@OurLordPeace](#): > > Would you call Ray Rice a boy? Sure, why not? Dude, boy, what’s the difference? > [@](#): > > I agree, but you’ll notice that Ray Rice is male-bodied. And? I can’t call a woman a dickhead? Besides, why did you have to put _lesbian_ abusers – why not just plain old female abusers? ---
**Author:** ![OurLordPeace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e8c25b/32.png) [@OurLordPeace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OurLordPeace)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/57 "2014-09-14T00:00:30Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Learn the differences in culture. In Britain and Ireland, “cunt” is just another insult, like “fucker”, or “asshole”. It’s not considered to be specifically male or female. See my response to NoveltyBobble. Is it OK to use “Jew” or “Gyp” as verbs, just because it’s a custom in some circles? > [@](#): > > Sure, why not? Dude, boy, what’s the difference? [Speaking of differences in culture](http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/15/understanding-why-you-dont-call-a-black-man-a-boy/), it was once routine to call adult black men “boys” as a way of demeaning and infantilizing them. It happens once in the film _Casablanca_, where neither the character nor the screenwriter seem to have any malicious intent, but it’s nevertheless very wrong and awkward to modern audiences. > [@](#): > > And? I can’t call a woman a dickhead? Besides, why did you have to put _lesbian_ abusers – why not just plain old female abusers? You certainly can (and nobody can stop you), but it wouldn’t make much sense. As for the lesbians, I had just been thinking about some campaigns to raise awareness of violence in same-sex relationships, and I made an oversight. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/58 "2014-09-14T00:46:26Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Sure, why not? Dude, boy, what’s the difference? :smack: You walked right into **OurLordPeace** ’s clever little trap. By agreeing to Gender Symmetry in a casual expression, you’ve logically proven that calling a woman girl is no different than calling a black person the n-word. Way to go, **Guin**. ---
**Author:** ![OurLordPeace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e8c25b/32.png) [@OurLordPeace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OurLordPeace)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/59 "2014-09-14T00:53:46Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > :smack: > > You walked right into **OurLordPeace** ’s clever little trap. By agreeing to Gender Symmetry in a casual expression, you’ve logically proven that calling a woman girl is no different than calling a black person the n-word. Way to go, **Guin**. Interesting. I hadn’t even drawn that exact conclusion. I just wanted to point out something that’s similarly inappropriate, for similar reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247/60 "2014-09-14T00:56:16Z")
> [@OurLordPeace](#): > > Interesting. I hadn’t even drawn that exact conclusion. I just wanted to point out something that’s similarly inappropriate, for similar reasons. And we’re all grateful for it. You’re a wonderful person, fixing sexism and racism on the Internet for everybody. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-ray-rice/698247.md?page=4)