# Fuck Romney for politicizing the events in Egypt and Libya

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**Created:** [September 12, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507 "2012-09-12T14:30:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/81 "2012-09-13T16:50:58Z")

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\*\*Fuck Romney for politicizing the events in Egypt and Libya  
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And Obama hasn’t? Give us a break.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/82 "2012-09-13T16:51:59Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> \*\*Fuck Romney for politicizing the events in Egypt and Libya  
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> And Obama hasn’t? Give us a break.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/83 "2012-09-13T17:02:15Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> \*\*Fuck Romney for politicizing the events in Egypt and Libya  
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> And Obama hasn’t? Give us a break.

I’m not sure what you mean. Romney used the event to score a political cheapshot against the President. Sure, Obama’s been talking about this, denouncing it, etc…if that’s what you want to call “politicizing”, since, um, Obama is in actuality a _politician_ and all…

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/84 "2012-09-13T17:03:34Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> [Just because people have short term memories](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXNF4_09BOI&feature=player_embedded).
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> Cue the “But that’s different!” responses in 3… 2… 1…

Not seeing the similarity. Obama is talking calmly and logically. Romney essentially stuck a microphone near his ass and let it rip.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/85 "2012-09-13T17:08:07Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Wow, that video is devastating…no wait, thats not right. Its that other thing…what’s the opposite of devastating…

Yeah, most of it is, but at the very end, and this takes maybe 2 or 3 seconds of the whole clip, Obama does bring up the deaths of 9 servicemen in Afghanistan.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/86 "2012-09-13T17:08:13Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> \*\*Fuck Romney for politicizing the events in Egypt and Libya  
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> And Obama hasn’t? Give us a break.

Yeah, give us a for-instance of what you mean, so we can see how Obama has been pulling the wool over our eyes, turning us into Obamabots who call him ‘The One.’ You can show us the truth, and lead us out of our illusions.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/87 "2012-09-13T17:09:12Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> \*\*Fuck Romney for politicizing the events in Egypt and Libya  
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> And Obama hasn’t? Give us a break.

I know the fast paced, complex world of _teaching children to hit other people with their feet_ is all about gut intuition and decisive finger-wagging, but here among the hoi polloi we generally need cites when one asserts something that isn’t self-evident.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/88 "2012-09-13T17:40:54Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Yeah, most of it is, but at the very end, and this takes maybe 2 or 3 seconds of the whole clip, Obama does bring up the deaths of 9 servicemen in Afghanistan.

Why is Obama politicizing the deaths of our service members?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/89 "2012-09-13T17:42:12Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/90 "2012-09-13T17:50:14Z")

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Is _tu quoque_ officially a GOP plank this year? Or is it still just informal?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/91 "2012-09-13T17:57:40Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Yeah, give us a for-instance of what you mean, so we can see how Obama has been pulling the wool over our eyes, turning us into Obamabots who call him ‘The One.’ You can show us the truth, and lead us out of our illusions.

Careful. Says in Scripture, the truth will make you freak.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/92 "2012-09-13T17:59:32Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Is _tu quoque_ officially a GOP plank this year? Or is it still just informal?

They couldn’t get it through the Furrin Words Translation Committee in time for the formal adoption.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/93 "2012-09-13T18:00:48Z")

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Let’s be clear about something, Romney is politicizing the deaths based on a lie.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/94 "2012-09-13T18:12:17Z")

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Its the neo-cons. Romney has a bunch of them in his inner circle. They are starving for some public reassurance, something that will prove them right. They heard what they expected to hear, appeasement in the face of imminent threat, America groveling before the Muslim radicals.

I think the reason they ran with it was twofold: one, they were sure it was true, it had to be true, it fit perfectly with their views. Second, they wanted it to be Romney who told America the truth, get out there first, make it like revealing a secret shame.

Hit first, and hit hard! That’s how those people think. They were sure they had the goods, and had to act fast to get the most bang out of it. Their ammunition belt turned into suicide vest.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/95 "2012-09-13T18:31:46Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Yeah, most of it is, but at the very end, and this takes maybe 2 or 3 seconds of the whole clip, Obama does bring up the deaths of 9 servicemen in Afghanistan.

Does he gets the facts wrong?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/96 "2012-09-13T18:39:25Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Yeah, most of it is, but at the very end, and this takes maybe 2 or 3 seconds of the whole clip, Obama does bring up the deaths of 9 servicemen in Afghanistan.

Is it just me, or does it sound like that clip was edited right in the middle of a sentence? Makes me wonder what he was about to say, and why the person who edited and posted that clip doesn’t want us to hear it.

Maybe I’m splitting hairs here, but it also strikes me that there’s a difference talking about military casualties in the prosecution of a war, and civilian deaths in an unprovoked attack in a country with which we’re at peace. I also wonder how much time passed between the attack, and the interview - much of the criticism here is that Romney went on the offensive before the bodies were cold.

And then, of course, there’s the whole “not deliberately lying about what happened,” angle mentioned by **Gangster Octopus**.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/97 "2012-09-13T19:10:12Z")

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Fuck Romney for politicizing events?

You mean [like Obama used troop deaths to criticize Bush in 2008?](http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/barack-obama-used-troop-deaths-to-ding-bush-mccai)

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/98 "2012-09-13T19:24:05Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> Fuck Romney for politicizing events?
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> You mean [like Obama used troop deaths to criticize Bush in 2008?](http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/barack-obama-used-troop-deaths-to-ding-bush-mccai)

You sir, are a perfect example of conservative intellect in action.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/99 "2012-09-13T19:33:36Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> conservative intellect

Oxymoron.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-romney-for-politicizing-the-events-in-egypt-and-libya/634507/100 "2012-09-13T19:47:12Z")

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Looks like the RNC talking points got out though - or maybe Rush mentioned that YouTube today?

It does seem interesting how quickly this went from “Obama = weak” to “Romney = no worse than Obama in 2008”.

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