Fuck S&P. You made a $2 trillion mistake and it's full CYA.

No Republicans.

We’re dressed enough, thanks. And especially given where it’s coming from, the assessment that we aren’t is goddamn laughable.

These are the fucktards who not only bowed to pressure from Goldman Sachs et al, to weaken their ratings standards, but who conspired to keep the ratings higher than they knew they should be, in order to increase their own bottom line revenues! (Cite.) And we should trust their assessment now because. . .

Lest we all forget, this is the same dumb bitch who didn’t vote to raise the debt ceiling and who said not doing so would not be a problem, that basically Democrats were creating a boogey man where none existed. And the stunning thing is, instead of her followers shrieking in horror at how absolutely deadass wrong she was, they’re fucking cheering her. It’s insanity to a degree that I would never have thought possible.

You clearly have no clue what the hell you’re talking about.

As a matter of fact, we did get “health care” (:rolleyes: ) passed, you moron, it’s called the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. And just a few days ago it was announced that women will now have access to a full range of recommended preventive services without cost sharing, including:

•well-woman visits;
•screening for gestational diabetes;
•human papillomavirus (HPV) DNA testing for women 30 years and older;
•sexually-transmitted infection counseling;
•human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) screening and counseling;
•FDA-approved contraception methods and contraceptive counseling;
•breastfeeding support, supplies, and counseling; and
•domestic violence screening and counseling.

As for this alleged “debt crisis,” there wasn’t one. It was completely manufactured bullshit. Not only is debt not necessarily a bad thing (it’s certainly not if you listen to Dick Cheney): 'Reagan proved deficits don’t matter," Dick Cheney told Paul O’Neill during a Cabinet meeting. “We won the (2002) midterms. This is our due.”

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0119-06.htm (Read it. It’s chilling.) …but with unemployment at its current levels, it actually costs us ten times as much to pay down $1trillion in debt to lenders than it would to borrow $1trillion and put people to work with it.

A trillion dollars costs (or did before this bogus downgrade) about $25billion in interest over the course of a year. Keeping 10 million people unemployed for that same year costs us about $250billion. (Cite.)

So how about you just keep your mouth shut unless you know what you’re talking about, mkay?

Your misinterpretation of the OP sums up why Americans don’t generally give a right shit about the opinions of buffoons from other countries.

Here’s what’s so appalling to me about their “reasoning” on that; they make absolutely no allowance for the fact that the president put a massive hedge against that in the deal, aka “the trigger.” Even if the Super Committee and/or Congress does absolutely nothing, we’ll still have massive budget cuts and increased revenues when the Bush tax cuts automatically sunset at the end of next year. So Congress’ potential inability to act is actually completely irrelevant.

Oh my god, that’s the most spot-on analysis I’ve ever read. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant!

Perhaps not the same news as Moidalize, but I would imagine that both parties are guilty of obstructing the other party. And both parties complaint about the other party. But I would like to have a better understanding of exactly what Moidalize actually means.

Ok, fair enough.

How about a record number of filibusters? How about not seating any administration appointments? How about refusing to even entertain the issue of tax cuts, no matter the actual economic situation?

How about constantly refusing to sign on to things that were standard Republican positions two years ago? If you think both parties are equally at fault, you’re stupid, uninformed are blindly ideological.

Or any number of the three, really. :smiley:

The weatherman? You mean the guy who pissed on my shoe, then told me it’s raining?

S&P have amply demonstrated, and publicly, that they have some problem distinguishing between their ass and a hole in the ground. They’re not even very good at what they do, much less passing judgment on our political functions.

I get a battery of tests at the doctors, and take the results to my accountant? And he tells me to get my affairs in order, as I have but a few weeks to live? And he’s not even a very good accountant? Actually, rather piss poor at it, seeing as he cannot add.

It’s painfully obvious that S&P’s decision was based, not on the numbers, but the necessity of banging the politicians upside the head with a clue-by-four. They’re correct about the latter, if not the former.

This whole thread is about Americans giving a shit about the opinions of people from other countries. Anyway, America will have to care what other countries think, specifically China, because it’s them that are keeping you afloat.

But hey, you stick with “AMERICA, FUCKYEAHH!!!” with your fingers in your ears, I’m sure it will all work out…

It does when you control the money, press, radio and TV.

Did you know how right you are when you made the post? If not, look at this:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/downgrade_doer_was_no_biz_wiz_KyeArXx2HeDSRdkjZx6VkM

An English major. Of course. Explains so much.

Classic Murdoch intimitadion. Print his home street address, as well. Absolutely shameless.

Pfffft. You can’t afford the gas.

http://vimeo.com/10752016

Why do we need to know what pets he has, or what sports he played in college?

And then you go on a long rant about how it is the other guys fault which is completely useless in regards to the current issues, which is what I was talking about and you completely missed. Talk about not paying attention. You’re exactly like the politicians. You don’t give a shit about solving problems, you just care about scoring points.

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You might want to check this detail: the United States isn’t a monarchy or a fascist state. Just because one side has the majority doesn’t give them the right to “rule”.
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Within the confines of the constitution it certainly does.

Trying to find a way to blame the messenger and avoid the message?

I’m perfectly fine looking into the credential of the people making these calls, I just don’t understand what the point is to all the other unrelated information.

I can’t even see it being called “blaming the messenger”. We shouldn’t trust his ability to rate investments because he owns two dogs?

Anyway, you can bet that the decision to downgrade the US sovereign debt rating went way up the chain of command. Probably it had to be okayed by the CEO.

Anybody who thinks we actually deserve a AAA credit rating needs their head examined.

That being said, does any of this really matter? I mean, there might be an intitial knee jerk reaction to it but ultimately, investors would come back to the US market.

Like take China for example. What are they gonna do? Invest in the Euro? Ha! That’s laughable. Their whole economic system would collapse if they tried. No they need us owing them money to keep their industry surplus system working.