# Fuck Saudi Arabia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saudi-arabia/828766>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 1, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saudi-arabia/828766 "2019-02-01T04:05:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saudi-arabia/828766/61 "2019-02-02T15:34:46Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> Is this supposed to be a representation of ‘non-Left’ logic on display? I’ll pass, thanks.

I have plenty for The Right as well but that isn’t what this thread is about.

The Far Left and The Far Right aren’t even opposites on a line. They are part of Horseshoe Theory that states that once you go far enough to either end politically, they are more similar than different. They both attract unstable militants that are convinced that they know the real truth and how the world should be run. The main difference is their native habitats.

> **[Horseshoe theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory)**
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> In popular discourse, the horseshoe theory asserts that advocates of far-left and the far-right politics, rather than being at opposite and opposing ends of a linear continuum of the political spectrum, closely resemble each other, analogous to the way that the opposite ends of a horseshoe are close together. The theory is attributed to the French philosopher and writer of fiction and poetry Jean-Pierre Faye in his 2002 book Le Siècle des idéologies ("The Century of Ideologies").
> Several polit...

The Left gets a lot of airplay these days like that makes them legitimate and totally not insane. I am bored with them and am more curious what the militia groups and religious cults on The Right are up to. The problem with The Left is that colleges keep making more of them and even hiring the ones that don’t grow out of it.

I think this old Onion article is relevant:

> **[College Student Does Nothing For Tibet Over Summer](https://www.theonion.com/college-student-does-nothing-for-tibet-over-summer-1819567475)**
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> BURLINGTON, VT—University of Vermont junior Becca Davis failed to do anything for the people of Tibet during her summer vacation, disgruntled fellow activists reported Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saudi-arabia/828766/62 "2019-02-02T15:42:12Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I have plenty for The Right as well but that isn’t what this thread is about.
> 
> The Far Left and The Far Right aren’t even opposites on a line. They are part of Horseshoe Theory that states that once you go far enough to either end politically, they are more similar than different. They both attract unstable militants that are convinced that they know the real truth and how the world should be run. The main difference is their native habitats.
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> [Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory)
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> The Left gets a lot of airplay these days like that makes them legitimate and totally not insane. I am bored with them and am more curious what the militia groups and religious cults on The Right are up to. The problem with The Left is that colleges keep making more of them and even hiring the ones that don’t grow out of it.
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> I think this old Onion article is relevant:  
> [College Student Does Nothing For Tibet Over Summer](https://www.theonion.com/college-student-does-nothing-for-tibet-over-summer-1819567475)

The difference is, the far left is represented by college students and bloggers, and the far right is represented by the president and a fair chunk of elected republican congresspeople.

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saudi-arabia/828766/63 "2019-02-02T18:17:27Z")

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> [@Batano](#):
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> It’s not just Saudi Arabia’s oppression of women (Though it is interesting that some in this thread seem to give them a pass because the women go along with it. Isn’t that a symptom of the patriarchy that people want smashed?)

I don’t think it’s ‘giving them a pass’, it’s acknowledging that makes it a hell of a lot more complicated to try and sort out, and there’s currently little we can do that doesn’t risk making it worse.

Supporting people demanding change is one thing, trying to persuade people to demand change so you can support them isn’t something that can realistically be done by outsiders. Especially when the target audience is isolated from strangers.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saudi-arabia/828766/64 "2019-02-02T18:49:18Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Why don’t you support fission power?

Don’t want to deal with the garbage.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saudi-arabia/828766/65 "2019-02-02T20:44:44Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I have plenty for The Right as well but that isn’t what this thread is about.
> 
> The Far Left and The Far Right aren’t even opposites on a line. They are part of Horseshoe Theory that states that once you go far enough to either end politically, they are more similar than different. They both attract unstable militants that are convinced that they know the real truth and how the world should be run. The main difference is their native habitats.
> 
> [Horseshoe theory - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory)
> 
> The Left gets a lot of airplay these days like that makes them legitimate and totally not insane. I am bored with them and am more curious what the militia groups and religious cults on The Right are up to. The problem with The Left is that colleges keep making more of them and even hiring the ones that don’t grow out of it.
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> I think this old Onion article is relevant:  
> [College Student Does Nothing For Tibet Over Summer](https://www.theonion.com/college-student-does-nothing-for-tibet-over-summer-1819567475)

Yeah, well the thing is, your ostensible refutation of ‘the Left’ in the post to which I responded was a hot, wet pile of crap. Care to try again, or should I just mark you down as a dim-witted reactionary and move on?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-saudi-arabia/828766/66 "2019-02-02T21:21:44Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> The difference is, the far left is represented by college students and bloggers, and the far right is represented by the president and a fair chunk of elected republican congresspeople.

The president isn’t far right, he believes in big government, eminent domain, and many things that aren’t conservative principles. I think he just really loves money, power, and himself.

He sure does pander to the far right though.

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